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Concours 14 Discussion (C14 / ZG1400 / 1400GTR) => Accessories C14 => Topic started by: Loren on September 11, 2011, 01:14:19 am

Title: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Loren on September 11, 2011, 01:14:19 am
I have been slowly working on a new seat for the Concours.  It is starting to take shape.  This will be my 3rd generation design for the C14 seat.  I still need to do a little more shape work on the pillion and then install the heating pads.  I just pinned the heating elements on today to see how they would fit with this design shape.

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Gen%20II/IMG_3773.jpg)
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Cap'n Bob on September 11, 2011, 09:55:52 am
Is your last name Russell by chance?  :)
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Loren on September 11, 2011, 11:49:23 pm
Is your last name Russell by chance?  :)


No Russell here. 

I had a little time today to revise the shape of the pillion to put more support under her thighs.   I also cut in pockets for and installed the heating pads.  Next up is designing and fabricating a pillion backrest support bracket into the seat pan.

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Gen%20II/IMG_3775.jpg)

As a comparison My seat naked next to a naked Russell.  I bought the Russell sometime ago and gutted it.   ;)

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Gen%20II/IMG_3776.jpg)
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Loren on September 15, 2011, 11:12:28 pm
Making some progress. 

The scrabbling of a mad man....trying to figure out a cool cover design.   
(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Gen%20II/IMG_3781.jpg)


Cutouts made for the seat heater switches.
(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Gen%20II/IMG_3783.jpg)

Cover is near complete.  The cover is leather with ostrich embossed cow hide inserts.   I'm waiting on a passenger backrest bracket to be made at the local fabrication shop.  I need to install the bracket before I can finish and install the cover. 
(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Gen%20II/IMG_3785.jpg)
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Loren on September 18, 2011, 11:17:09 pm
I picked up the pillion backrest bracket from the fabrication shop late Friday.  I installed it yesterday and finished the rest up today.  I still need to wire up the seat heat to the bike, but that should be easy enough. 

The cover design WILL NOT be a standard offering.  The tight radii at the ends of the ostrich panels causes some gathering that I didn't like.  I will do something without the Ostrich insert panels as a standard pattern that will not have the gathering problem.
(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Gen%20II/IMG_3789.jpg)

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Gen%20II/IMG_3791.jpg)

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Gen%20II/IMG_3796.jpg)

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Gen%20II/IMG_3802.jpg)

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Gen%20II/IMG_3798.jpg)

Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Cap'n Bob on September 19, 2011, 08:45:47 am
I like the Ostrich skin look. The seat itself looks much better than the Russell look I thought it would have. Nice job.
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Loren on September 20, 2011, 11:52:29 am
Bob,  Thanks!  I like the character the ostrich gives the seat. 
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: krumgrinder on September 22, 2011, 05:18:45 pm
Sharp work Loren, but what, no saddles for C10 owners on your website???  :-[  ;)
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Loren on September 22, 2011, 05:54:53 pm
Sharp work Loren, but what, no saddles for C10 owners on your website???  :-[  ;)


Thanks!  I would be happy to make a saddle for a C10 and prices would be the same as for the C14. 

Here are prices  Web page is still in development, but the prices are good.

http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014%20GT.htm

I'm working on another seat with a more standard cover.  When I have it done I will put photos up on the web page with that cover design. 
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Necron99 on September 22, 2011, 06:43:55 pm
I'm a seat junkie.. I had 7 different seats on my VTX, and my first non-stock seat for my Connie was a Baldwin.  And I love love love it! 

Loren is an awesome seat builder, but for every bit he's terrific at making seats, he's even BETTER at customer service and communication.  I manage customer service for an international marketing company, and I can not think of a single way that Loren didn't EXCEED my expectations when I had him build a seat for me.
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Wits on September 22, 2011, 07:27:17 pm
nice..  I was hoping to hear a first hand "review"..  Did you go with the standard one or the gel insert?

Loren, could you give any thoughts on what is better..  I'm ok on the stock seat with sheepskin cover for probably 8 hours or so, 500 miles (with maybe three 10 minute breaks off the bike) before I my butt is getting to me..  Is the gel insert overkill?  Is it going to make a good bit of difference stretching out to longer days?
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Loren on September 22, 2011, 10:28:01 pm
Michael, thanks for the buying experience review!    I do try to treat other riders the way I would like to be treated.

Wits, this new saddle model is only available with the gel insert.  I used the gel insert in mine, and want to provide the same level of saddle to other riders. 
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Loren on September 27, 2011, 03:46:30 pm
I completed a second saddle with a standard cover for the new GT saddle. Here on photos and website is updated with them too.  This is with the ostrich embossed vinyl on top, it is a cool material, and the sides are vinyl with a real nice leather grain emboss.  The top stitching is titanium color.  This is also a 2 up version.  A solo would have the oem shape for the passenger part of the seat.
 
(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Grand%20Tour/Kawasaki%20Concours%20C14%20Grand%20Tour%20Custom%20Seat%20by%20Baldwin%20Motorbike%20Saddles%20image%201.jpg)

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Grand%20Tour/Kawasaki%20Concours%20C14%20Grand%20Tour%20Custom%20Seat%20by%20Baldwin%20Motorbike%20Saddles%20image%202.jpg)

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Grand%20Tour/Kawasaki%20Concours%20C14%20Grand%20Tour%20Custom%20Seat%20by%20Baldwin%20Motorbike%20Saddles%20image%203.jpg)

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Grand%20Tour/Kawasaki%20Concours%20C14%20Grand%20Tour%20Custom%20Seat%20by%20Baldwin%20Motorbike%20Saddles%20image%204.jpg)

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Grand%20Tour/Kawasaki%20Concours%20C14%20Grand%20Tour%20Custom%20Seat%20by%20Baldwin%20Motorbike%20Saddles%20image%205.jpg)

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Grand%20Tour/Kawasaki%20Concours%20C14%20Grand%20Tour%20Custom%20Seat%20by%20Baldwin%20Motorbike%20Saddles%20image%206.jpg)

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Grand%20Tour/Kawasaki%20Concours%20C14%20Grand%20Tour%20Custom%20Seat%20by%20Baldwin%20Motorbike%20Saddles%20image%207.jpg)

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Grand%20Tour/Kawasaki%20Concours%20C14%20Grand%20Tour%20Custom%20Seat%20by%20Baldwin%20Motorbike%20Saddles%20image%208.jpg)

(http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/images/Saddle%20Photos/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014/Grand%20Tour/Kawasaki%20Concours%20C14%20Grand%20Tour%20Custom%20Seat%20by%20Baldwin%20Motorbike%20Saddles%20image%209.jpg)
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Necron99 on October 02, 2011, 03:30:32 am
I did gel and memory foam on my Baldwin, and "carbon fiber" look in blue and black.  Here's a pic.  I dig the seat.  I'm still a seat junkie...  I tried a Sargent (hated it) and I have a Russell on the way... and I'll probably try a Corbin sometime when I trip on one for a good price.  But I adore the Baldwin.  Loren... "treat people the way I want to be treated."  That's pretty well my entire philosophy on customer service.  :)

(http://home.armourarchive.org/members/morgan/connie/baldwin/100_2133s.jpg)
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: BJ_CT on October 23, 2011, 10:38:18 pm
Got my new Baldwin saddle earlier this week and have two 1 hour rides and a longer ride today (5-3/4 hrs, 278 miles) and the verdict is it's a winner.  I'd rate this 5 (out of 5) stars.  While I can't say there was no pain today, I can say that I don't think it's the seat and I don't believe a RDL would've been better.  That annoying pain in the butt didn't start to show up at about the 5 hour mark.  I specifically did not stand on the pegs or move my butt on the pillion section but would normally move about a bit if not for the 'testing' nature of today's ride.  I'm pretty sure that being old and overweight doesn't help any.

The seat fits well, both the bike and my butt, and looks very nice.  I got the front seat heated and it worked well today, temps in the 40s and low 50s all day.

You can see how much different this seat is from the stocker and the Corbin.  it looks like it might be too wide in the nose but I didn't find that to be so.  If you hang now, you'll still be able to hang with this seat.  For me, the fit is pretty damn close to perfect.

All things considered, I'm very pleased.  The next major test will be a 24hr, 1000 mile rally next spring.
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Cap'n Bob on October 24, 2011, 07:45:29 am
I'm glad you like it and it works for you Bruce. I now nominate you as the authority on C14 seats. If I have this correct. You have now owned the OEM seat, Sargent, Corbin, and now Baldwin. As well as giving a Russell a try. (did I leave any out?)  That might be the record.  :)
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Loren on October 24, 2011, 09:22:45 am
Bruce,  Thanks for the write up!  I hope you have a long fall season to get more riding in before the white stuff shows up.
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Fred_Harmon_TX on October 24, 2011, 12:05:20 pm
I think if I had a seat like that on my bike, I might actually be able to get my wife to ride with me on my C14.
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built - Baldwin Saddles
Post by: BJ_CT on February 20, 2012, 01:20:49 am
Thought I'd update this post re: the Baldwin seat for the C14.  I've got well over 1000 miles, maybe 2000, on this seat and couldn't be more pleased.  Have done several rides over 4 hours, up to 8, and can still get back on when I finish.

Motorcycle Consumer News, the 3/12 edition, has a nice write-up about the Baldwin Sadd;es.  Way to go, Loren.
 :bravo_2:
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Gypsy JR on February 20, 2012, 03:11:36 am
Loren, if I wanted one, would I send my seat, or do you make them complete?

Also, if I wanted both rider and passenger heat, could I get it with the hi-low for the passenger, and no control at all for the rider (will control through Dispatch 1 electronic fuse box)?
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built - Baldwin Saddles
Post by: Loren on February 21, 2012, 12:39:22 am
Motorcycle Consumer News, the 3/12 edition, has a nice write-up about the Baldwin Sadd;es.  Way to go, Loren.
 :bravo_2:

 :beerchug:  Thanks BJ!  It's always nice to get some press coverage.   :)

Loren, if I wanted one, would I send my seat, or do you make them complete?

I need your seat or you can do the seat core exchange with a refundable deposit.

Also, if I wanted both rider and passenger heat, could I get it with the hi-low for the passenger, and no control at all for the rider (will control through Dispatch 1 electronic fuse box)?

Switches can be left off the seat and you can panel mount them or do something custom.  It is flexible in how we do it.
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Gypsy JR on February 22, 2012, 12:19:12 am
My seat is on the way, Loren. For a full boat, two-up, leather with rider and passenger heat but no control units (doing my own) in return.
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: joe in calif on February 22, 2012, 02:48:38 am
I'm glad you like it and it works for you Bruce. I now nominate you as the authority on C14 seats. If I have this correct. You have now owned the OEM seat, Sargent, Corbin, and now Baldwin. As well as giving a Russell a try. (did I leave any out?)  That might be the record.  :)
I'm right in the same area as him. I have owned my concours for 15 months and I have had 4 seats. 09 OEM, Sargents, 2010 oem, (better than the 09 OEM) and now a Baldwin but not the new style. Still looking for something that fits me better, a little softer I think. On my Gold Wing I could ride all day long on the OEM seat and never get sore, it was wider and softer than all these I have tried. Maybe I might have to try the NEW Baldwin.
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: gsun on April 21, 2012, 03:41:15 pm
Wondering if the wide seat interferes with getting your feet down. I am inseam challenged - 30 - and have a bit of time flat footing. I know the Russell would not be good but this one seems better.
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Gypsy JR on April 21, 2012, 05:21:10 pm
I love mine, but I am on tip-toes at most stops. Will that change as the seat breaks in? Probably. I don't think its the width, but the thickness. I got mine in the lower version, and I'm glad I did, and its still VERY comfortable.

(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa468/privateer3/2012C14April2012/1212C14-April09.jpg)

(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa468/privateer3/2012C14April2012/1212C14-April05.jpg)
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: gsun on April 21, 2012, 07:23:04 pm
What is your inseam?
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Gypsy JR on April 22, 2012, 12:02:52 pm
What is your inseam?

28"
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: Necron99 on April 22, 2012, 01:53:43 pm
What is your inseam?

28"

I've been meaning to ask....  how is the riding on the Yellow Brick Road?   :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :nananana: :nananana:
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: BJ_CT on April 22, 2012, 02:03:32 pm
I have pretty much the same seat and the same tip toe dance but I prefer it that way.  I much prefer the taller position with less knee bend to being flat footed at a stop.  Another great aspect of this seat is the way I can cozy up to the tank and have essentially a narrow seat in twisties  :motonoises: and sit back in more comfort when the riding gets a little less exciting.  This is a very, very nice seat. :beerchug:
Title: Re: My New Custom Seat Being Built
Post by: gsun on April 22, 2012, 05:13:35 pm
Don't mind not flat footing when riding solo, but with the wife on back, not so much.