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Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« on: February 10, 2019, 10:11:23 am »
Guys,

Needing a new windshield and I decided to go Cal Sci.  I want the ability to have as close to a pristine bubble as possible.

I'm 6'1" and a former Goldwing and Ultra Limited rider.  My new C14 now has a Corbin seat(that sits me up a little higher) and the bike will also be getting risers and shims.

I'm going with the XL, just not sure if I should go Xtra wide or standard width.  Worried that the Xtra wide will potentially contact parts.

Does anyone have experience with the XL in both wide and regular width?

Craig

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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2019, 12:33:36 pm »
6'1", 32" inseam here.
I'm on a custom Baldwin saddle & 2" risers, so the specific height of my arse to screen ratio may be slightly different.

I've had a Calsci XL wide for nearly 4 years.  It's a good screen.
My only complaint is that at FULL UP, the top of the screen is directly (if only slightly) in my line of sight, and is difficult to see through in the twisties.  On the highway, it's not as distracting.

I'm not really sure I'd want to go any taller in a screen, as I worry that the stress on the motor and arms at full up height is taxing on the attached components.  To date: no issues whatsoever.
The WIDE aspect to me, is perfect.  No need for hippo hands or deflectors installed on the handlebars.
Even with the risers installed, you have no clearance issues, but it does get a bit tight.

If you're looking for a "dome of silence" on this bike, you'll likely never find it.  I've tried, and failed.
I've been tempted to try Madstad Brackets and a LIP (forget the brand name) to direct airflow OVER my head, but haven't done it yet.
With Calsci full up, it keeps the wind mostly off my helmet, but I can still get some buffeting on the top of my lid.  It IS quieter, but like I said - you'll NEVER get the full on silence (like ducking down) as you would with a larger bike.  Not at 6' tall or  more.  Not happening.  This IS a sport-touring bike, afterall -- not a cruiser.

Truly, this is a benefit and curse of the C14 -- you'll learn to appreciate this in the Summer, as you can actually get some airflow to the body and face with a shorter screen.  On a bike like BMW or Wing, you get the "bubble" but you also don't get airflow in the summer.  COMPROMISE.

I use my OEM screen as my Summer option.  It has enough coverage for rain, but also gives you a nice breeze to the torso when full down.

Any questions, feel free to PM me.

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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2019, 02:46:09 pm »
I'm having the same thoughts as the OP. 6'4", 35" inseam, Baldwin GT sear, and ride with the OEM shield all the way down in the summer. Roars like a banshee in the winter. I've gotten spoiled by riding a Goldwing. I was thinking of the CalSci XL, too.

The only real alternative to me, seems to ride the Wing in the winter, the C-14 in the summer when the air flow is quite welcome. Also thinking about custom ear plugs from an audiologist and saying "to heck with it."

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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2019, 03:06:58 pm »
I have the biggest windshield Cal Sci makes - extra tall extra wide.
No fitment issues.

When at it's lowest setting (home) I look over it.  At it's highest setting I look through it.

While I don't usually ride in the rain I have been caught in it and the larger shield I think helps some.

I use it year round.

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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2019, 04:03:53 pm »
Silver Connie Rider: How tall are you and do you have long(er) legs or torso?  Thanks for the reply.
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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2019, 04:18:23 pm »
Silver Connie Rider: How tall are you and do you have long(er) legs or torso?  Thanks for the reply.

About 5'10" and 32" inseam.

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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2019, 06:04:05 pm »
I'm having the same thoughts as the OP. 6'4", 35" inseam, Baldwin GT sear, and ride with the OEM shield all the way down in the summer. Roars like a banshee in the winter. I've gotten spoiled by riding a Goldwing. I was thinking of the CalSci XL, too.

The only real alternative to me, seems to ride the Wing in the winter, the C-14 in the summer when the air flow is quite welcome. Also thinking about custom ear plugs from an audiologist and saying "to heck with it."

Ron -

i went the way of the Audiologist and custom plugs a few years ago, as I usually wear Moldex's typically when I ride.  Nothing compares to all-day comfort of SOFT FOAM earplugs for sound attenuation in-helmet.
I forget the model I got, but they are designed for shooting as well - to let some sound in, and keep the sharp sounds out.  They are Westones. I positively HATE them.  Even for shooting, they are marginal at best.
For riding, they are painful both audibly AND physically.
The attenuation for constant wind and engine drone is less than negligible, I think it actually exacerbates overall noise inside my helmet.  I'll take a pic of them later and post up. I have often thought that the mold wasn't done properly, but there was almost no way to mess that up.
I honestly don't know why they're so bad, but they are.  No denying it.

Ironically, I own a very high-end pair of Westone IEM's for music, and they are fantastic.

My advice would be to do what I always SHOULD have done, and get the full ear custom molds like fighter pilots of race car drivers wear that can be implemented with In Ear Speaker's, so they can be plugged-into your headset of choice.  Don't get me wrong, I like bluetooth - but I think for TRUE noise attenuation and ability to listen to music and talk on phone / to passenger -- this is still the best way to go.

i don't have any model numbers or brands to recommend, but were I to go the CUSTOM route again -- I'd spend for that type of IEM.   I have since gone back to the Molex's "under" bluetooth and in-helmet speakers, and am happy with that arrangement.

my 2c.  Sorry for the derail.....
« Last Edit: February 10, 2019, 06:09:03 pm by ghostrider990 »
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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2019, 06:26:00 pm »
6'2" and just got the CalSci Tall Wide and it's perfect for me.  Up all the way it's quieter than my old Aspencade.  All the way down and the wind hits at the bottom of my helmet/top of my shoulders on up.  MAKE SURE YOU ARE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT PUTTING THE STUPID WINDSHIELD SCREW COVERS BACK ON; you have to get them centered just right on the holes... AND I had to add an extra nylon washer to the big middle (silver screws) because apparently the shield is a hair thinner than stock... needless to say, the plastic covers broke to pieces and it took a minute to figure out what went wrong, and I had to order new ones.
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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2019, 07:27:17 pm »
Thanks guys. Ditto on the  - sorry to hijack.  :truce:
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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2019, 02:08:23 pm »
Thanks guys. Ditto on the  - sorry to hijack.  :truce:

that was on me Ron!  ....as usual....

BAD A.D. -- BAD!


Further to breaking the plastic covers on the screen -- I also broke mine, but never thought to suspect the thickness of the Calsci vs. the OEM.   :-[

Those parts are easily had, but not necessarily cheap.  I just figured cost of ownership, as I tend to swap screens fairly often during a given year.

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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2019, 05:50:53 pm »
Thanks guys. Ditto on the  - sorry to hijack.  :truce:

that was on me Ron!  ....as usual....

BAD A.D. -- BAD!


Further to breaking the plastic covers on the screen -- I also broke mine, but never thought to suspect the thickness of the Calsci vs. the OEM.   :-[

Those parts are easily had, but not necessarily cheap.  I just figured cost of ownership, as I tend to swap screens fairly often during a given year.

gr

Help me out here guys.  I dont want to damage anything when going Calsci.  What do I need to have on hand shimwise to prevent damage?  Anyone have any photos to help paint a picture?

Craig

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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2019, 07:32:34 pm »
6'1, 32" inseam.  I tried stock, two Cee Bailey's, a v-stream and the cal-sci extra tall and wide.  The v-stream is on my bike about 9 months a year, the cal sci during the winter months.  No problems looking over the top of the cal-sci, buffeting is much better than the stock or the Cee Bailey's (and almost as good as the v-stream).  The wide Cal Sci blocks a LOT of air, so is nice for cooler weather.  Texas summers are too warm to use the cal sci year-round, but your experience may vary.

I've never had issues with either screen, even at triple digit speeds.

The x-wide doesn't "contact parts" when fully down, I've heard that the aftermarket mini wings can be a problem, but mine don't interfere or touch anything, including my radar mount

I've never used a shim of any kind on the windshield mounts.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2019, 07:35:35 pm by copdocpvd »
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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2019, 02:35:05 pm »


Help me out here guys.  I dont want to damage anything when going Calsci.  What do I need to have on hand shimwise to prevent damage?  Anyone have any photos to help paint a picture?

Craig
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Don't fret buddy.  I don't think you really have anything to worry about.

I'm 99% sure I broke the plastic windshield cover tabs simply prying them off the windshield too many times.
They tend to get "sealed" on there over time, especially with those little rubber membranes that go between them and the actual screen itself.

I think the other poster was referring to possibly adding a smaller plastic shim (washer) to correct for the thicker Calsci windshield in an effort to not cause any damage or over-torquing of those plastic pieces.

Honestly - I don't think it's that big a deal.  Especially if you don't remove them very often.

Like I said -- replacement plastic pieces, easily purchased and replaced.

No pics for you.....as that would require ME to go take my windscreen off unecessarily, AGAIN!!  :nananana:

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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2019, 07:29:14 pm »
I have the CalSci tall and wide.  I am 6' 5" with a 36 inch inseam.  With the screen full up I look over it, and the wind hits the top 2" of my helmet.  On a full lock left turn my brake lever would hit the screen, but I easily adjusted it to prevent contact.  My screen has the vent and with it open there is no buffeting.  I am pleased with the screen, but wish it was a little thicker.

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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2019, 09:49:21 pm »
I bought the largest Cal Sci screen. It was really too much for me. I did salvage the situation by covering the screen with blue masking tape, drawing on the tape what I wish the screen had been cut like, and cutting it with a hand held jig saw. The edges cleaned up nicely, it looks factory or better, and is the only one like it.

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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2019, 12:25:24 am »
Does CalSci ever offer free shipping or other discounts?

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Re: Need Cal Sci Windshield experience
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2019, 06:38:33 pm »
I'm having the same thoughts as the OP. 6'4", 35" inseam, Baldwin GT sear, and ride with the OEM shield all the way down in the summer. Roars like a banshee in the winter. I've gotten spoiled by riding a Goldwing. I was thinking of the CalSci XL, too.

The only real alternative to me, seems to ride the Wing in the winter, the C-14 in the summer when the air flow is quite welcome. Also thinking about custom ear plugs from an audiologist and saying "to heck with it."

Ron -

i went the way of the Audiologist and custom plugs a few years ago, as I usually wear Moldex's typically when I ride.  Nothing compares to all-day comfort of SOFT FOAM earplugs for sound attenuation in-helmet.
I forget the model I got, but they are designed for shooting as well - to let some sound in, and keep the sharp sounds out.  They are Westones. I positively HATE them.  Even for shooting, they are marginal at best.
For riding, they are painful both audibly AND physically.
The attenuation for constant wind and engine drone is less than negligible, I think it actually exacerbates overall noise inside my helmet.  I'll take a pic of them later and post up. I have often thought that the mold wasn't done properly, but there was almost no way to mess that up.
I honestly don't know why they're so bad, but they are.  No denying it.

Ironically, I own a very high-end pair of Westone IEM's for music, and they are fantastic.

My advice would be to do what I always SHOULD have done, and get the full ear custom molds like fighter pilots of race car drivers wear that can be implemented with In Ear Speaker's, so they can be plugged-into your headset of choice.  Don't get me wrong, I like bluetooth - but I think for TRUE noise attenuation and ability to listen to music and talk on phone / to passenger -- this is still the best way to go.

i don't have any model numbers or brands to recommend, but were I to go the CUSTOM route again -- I'd spend for that type of IEM.   I have since gone back to the Molex's "under" bluetooth and in-helmet speakers, and am happy with that arrangement.

my 2c.  Sorry for the derail.....

Did your audiologist use a bite block to hold your mouth open while they made the mold? If not, they won't fit tightly. When our mouth is open, the ear canals are more open. You make the mold with your mouth held open, that way when the ear plugs are in, and your mouth is closed, they will fit tighter and block the sound properly.