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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2015, 03:59:54 pm »
Update....

I messaged the guy who is selling these for a picture of the 2 parts separate..

Here we go..  :)

No need to go cutting the rubber boot.  :)



Alan (Alan_Yucius_FL) asked a question about how to put it all back together..

The 3 pronged part goes in first then held in by the retaining clip. The rubber boot then goes on next.. Once that is in place the bulb goes through the hole and locks in place with the bayonet type lugs on the 3 prong base.. If you look on the picture of the bulb you can see where the bayonet lugs go..  :)


When I look at the picture on EBAY I see two screws that look like they would hold the assembly together. I would think that you have to but the rubber boot in place after you separate the 3 finger metal plate w/the 2 screws then replace the metal base w/ the screws. Now your boot is in place but you still have to put the bulb assembly into the headlight hole and secure the wire retainer to hold it in place. This may be a challenge.   I have to guess that the rubber cap on the wire harness plug hangs in the air when you plug in the bulb??    I too hope with this a new improved bulb, it cast the light further down the road. I know it will show up great on a garage door from 10 or 20 feet away but to me the road in important.   Post you findings when you get you new LED bulbs.                ALAN in S. Fl

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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2015, 08:15:37 pm »
Alan.. I cannot see any screws that would hold it in place,.. The bayonet lugs will do that..

Also re the wire harness plug hangs in the air. You would use some cable ties to keep it in place so it's no hanging.
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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2015, 08:59:50 pm »
Alan.. I cannot see any screws that would hold it in place,.. The bayonet lugs will do that..

Also re the wire harness plug hangs in the air. You would use some cable ties to keep it in place so it's no hanging.
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  Look it the pictures on ebay.  Looks like two Phillip Head screws??  http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zE4AAOSwYaFWcYYP/s-l500.jpg   

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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2015, 09:01:17 pm »
Alan.. I cannot see any screws that would hold it in place,.. The bayonet lugs will do that..

Also re the wire harness plug hangs in the air. You would use some cable ties to keep it in place so it's no hanging.


  Look it the pictures on ebay.  Looks like two Phillip Head screws??  http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zE4AAOSwYaFWcYYP/s-l500.jpg   


They hold a collar in place that slides over the bulb and locks in place with the bayonet lugs

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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2015, 02:29:45 am »
I love it. Another woman that not afraid to work on her bike and then show the men how to do it.

Keep up the good work Debs!  :great:
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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2015, 08:18:51 am »
I love it. Another woman that not afraid to work on her bike and then show the men how to do it.

Keep up the good work Debs!  :great:

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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2015, 04:36:35 pm »
Alan.. I cannot see any screws that would hold it in place,.. The bayonet lugs will do that..

Also re the wire harness plug hangs in the air. You would use some cable ties to keep it in place so it's no hanging.


  Look it the pictures on ebay.  Looks like two Phillip Head screws??  http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zE4AAOSwYaFWcYYP/s-l500.jpg   


They hold a collar in place that slides over the bulb and locks in place with the bayonet lugs




Deb, I see what you are talking about. Thanks for pointing it out. What are the two round bump things on the flat surface on the collar, and what do they do??

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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2015, 04:50:20 pm »
There is a plastic (?) inner part (bayonet lugs) attached to the 3 pronged collar with phillips  screws.  The link in reply #31 has photos showing it.
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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2015, 05:00:33 pm »
                       Thanks Mark for the picture explanation, they show the screws very clearly.

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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2015, 05:30:53 pm »
There is a plastic (?) inner part (bayonet lugs) attached to the 3 pronged collar with phillips  screws.  The link in reply #31 has photos showing it.
                       Thanks Mark for the picture explanation, they show the screws very clearly.

That's what I had already said re the 2 screws.
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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2015, 07:22:23 pm »
Hey moderators,  you're over-thinking it.  Accessories are add-ons.  A headlight bulb is not an accessory.   :))
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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2015, 09:15:17 pm »
Agree, looking forward to some actual feedback.  I know this was started in the C-14 section, but it appears that C-10 owners (myself included) are following.  I am going to replace the headlight in my C-10 this winter - already have all the plastic off for other maintenance and farkelization.  Going to be either LED or Murph's halogen bulbs.  Leaning towards LED, but would like a first hand review of this bulb in a C-10 before taking the plunge.
The bulb landed on my doorstep this afternoon. My son is off tomorrow and so am I, so he and I are going to install one on each of the bikes and take care of a couple of other little maintenance items on them both at the same time. I'll review (with pictures, if possible) as soon as I can.
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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2015, 09:42:02 pm »
Hey moderators,  you're over-thinking it.  Accessories are add-ons.  A headlight bulb is not an accessory.   :))


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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2015, 04:06:21 am »
Agree, looking forward to some actual feedback.  I know this was started in the C-14 section, but it appears that C-10 owners (myself included) are following.  I am going to replace the headlight in my C-10 this winter - already have all the plastic off for other maintenance and farkelization.  Going to be either LED or Murph's halogen bulbs.  Leaning towards LED, but would like a first hand review of this bulb in a C-10 before taking the plunge.
The bulb landed on my doorstep this afternoon. My son is off tomorrow and so am I, so he and I are going to install one on each of the bikes and take care of a couple of other little maintenance items on them both at the same time. I'll review (with pictures, if possible) as soon as I can.

Great, thanks SwampCat! Looking forward to feedback. What are you using now, halogens or HIDs?
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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2015, 10:57:10 am »
Great, thanks SwampCat! Looking forward to feedback. What are you using now, halogens or HIDs?
I've got an HID installed right now. I'm not displeased with it, but I'm always curious about technologies that can make it easier to see and be seen.

Even though this thread is in the "Accessories C14" section, let me note that I'm doing this on a C10. YMMV.
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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2015, 12:11:05 am »
I took pictures on a nearby road last night with the HID installed in Shoodaben, then changed it out for the LED this afternoon and tried to get similar photos. Unfortunately, even though I went out about the same time tonight as last night, I had to deal with a lot more traffic and wasn't able to get a clean shot even after waiting 15 minutes.

My comparison photos are at http://s292.photobucket.com/user/swampcat-TPA/library/HID%20vs%20LED%20Headlight%20Comparison. I put together a top/bottom comparison in two of the photos posted there. These are at full resolution from my camera, a Canon point-and-shoot set for night mode with no flash, so it limited the size to 3 megapixels.

The cars that can be seen are approximately 0.2 mile away.

I forgot to get a daylight photo, so I'll add that to the Photobucket album.

Preview photos attached at low enough resolution to upload to the forum.

As a reminder, this is on a C10, not a C14.
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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #44 on: December 31, 2015, 12:41:15 am »
Ed - that must be some pretty bright light ya got there, because I know how bright the HID was as compared to a regular incandescent bulb. Now I found with the HID that the bulbs lasted much longer when the shield was removed, so you might notice I had cut the shield off that bulb. the downside (upside?) was that it threw light up into trees , but the advantage I found was that it let me see if the road was turning just by the trees, even if I couldn't see that far down the road. Looks to me like the LED reaches further down the road anyways, and is brighter too. I'm looking forward to mine showing up soon! Steve
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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #45 on: December 31, 2015, 12:45:29 am »
I took pictures on a nearby road last night with the HID installed in Shoodaben, then changed it out for the LED this afternoon and tried to get similar photos. Unfortunately, even though I went out about the same time tonight as last night, I had to deal with a lot more traffic and wasn't able to get a clean shot even after waiting 15 minutes.

My comparison photos are at http://s292.photobucket.com/user/swampcat-TPA/library/HID%20vs%20LED%20Headlight%20Comparison. I put together a top/bottom comparison in two of the photos posted there. These are at full resolution from my camera, a Canon point-and-shoot set for night mode with no flash, so it limited the size to 3 megapixels.

The cars that can be seen are approximately 0.2 mile away.

I forgot to get a daylight photo, so I'll add that to the Photobucket album.

Preview photos attached at low enough resolution to upload to the forum.

As a reminder, this is on a C10, not a C14.



Ed, Thanks for posting the pictures. What was your opinion over all since you were looking over the windscreen?.
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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #46 on: December 31, 2015, 01:07:54 am »
The pictures seem pretty accurate to me. The LED seems a bit more focused, but I'm not sure there is a big difference in light output overall. I didn't have an opportunity for a true driving test tonight. I think we will see a more dramatic difference compared to a halogen. I also wish I had a better camera where I could fix the exposure. I probably should check the EXIF data and see what the difference is.

Subjectively, I like the color temperature of the LED better, but I also use "daylight" bulbs throughout my house. I'm going to leave it in for a while and see what I think over a longer test. I left the support wiring for the HID in place so I can easily go back if I want.
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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #47 on: December 31, 2015, 12:20:34 pm »
I pulled the memory card out of the on-board camera and took screen shots from each test. The absence of the shield, as Steve notes, changes the apparent cutoff on the HID. Still looks like a tossup to me in this static test and the real test will be (as always) how it performs on the road.

(Steve, in case you are wondering since you know Shoodaben has LED driving lights, I pointed those upward for this test so they wouldn't interfere.)

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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #48 on: December 31, 2015, 12:40:14 pm »
Ed, based on the pics, the LED is brighter. I'm looking at stuff like the white line on the road to the left, etc.

  Thanks for taking the time to do this, I think it's best when folks have graphic views to make educated comparisons.

  Not to rub it in or anything... But as soon as my package shows up I'll be having 2 of those bulbs melting pavement in front of me!  >:D :) Steve
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Re: New G6 H4 LED bulb...no glare, no scatter.
« Reply #49 on: December 31, 2015, 02:20:10 pm »
  Not to rub it in or anything... But as soon as my package shows up I'll be having 2 of those bulbs melting pavement in front of me!  >:D :) Steve


I've heard that you older guys need a little more light to see.  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

The daylight pic from the same spot is in the Photobucket album now.

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