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New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« on: March 03, 2012, 07:30:29 pm »
Hey all,

I just released a new set of risers that'll give you an upright riding position but cost way less than the Helibar setup.  They give a full 1 1/2 inch pullback compared to stock.  They'll work on 2010-current.  Sorry to everyone that has an '08 or '09.  The problem comes with the location of the "glovebox" on those models.  Just no way around it.  Its an easy install.  Instructions are at the bottom of the description.  http://www.advancedsporttouring.com/Concours_Risers_p/c14-03.htm.  I put 3,000 miles on them without issue.  Two color choices for brake spacers.

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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2012, 07:50:23 pm »
Can the 2010 cover replace the 2009 box?  I do not have much use for the box as I use my tank bag. These look like a nice option that I was just thinking about building.

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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2012, 07:57:09 pm »
Can the 2010 cover replace the 2009 box?  I do not have much use for the box as I use my tank bag. These look like a nice option that I was just thinking about building.

That is a very good question.  The local dealership sold the '08 I was working with.  I'll start another discussion and see if someone else has tried it.  If there's any '08-'09's around Waterford, Michigan I'll pick up the center section on my dime to try it.  Just let me know.
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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2012, 09:33:52 pm »
To clear up some confusion, the 2" rise that they and everyone else that has a set of 2" risers claim is actually just the height of the risers themselves, not the actual amount of rise they give you.  Because of the angle of the triple tree, 2 inches of riser doesn't equal 2 inches of rise because the handlebars are rising and moving towards the rider instead of going straight up.  On the link I provided, I detailed how this calculates out.  Before I designed my own, I was using a set of their 2" risers so I was able to use theirs to confirm this calculation.

These can be seen as the next step for risers.  These are anyone's 2 inch risers but with the top inch moved towards the rider.  This is the absolute maximum the stock cables will allow.  The only way you can get more pullback is by changing the cables and lines and spend a ton more money on the Horizon setup.
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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2012, 01:25:31 pm »
You're three days too late. I just received and installed the 2 helibar risers on Friday. I would have tried these if I had known about them.
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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2012, 01:56:29 pm »
It looks like a nice well made product for those that are looking to move the handlebars up and closer. Its certainly quite a chunk of aluminum required to accomplish this. Should be very strong. Good luck with these. Mark
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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2012, 02:56:50 pm »
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Do you have to add anything to the cables, or are the cables just stretched to their max?
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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2012, 04:41:38 pm »
For those of you who may be wondering.  Phils / Murphs Wedges will work with my pullback risers giving an extra 1/2" of offset / pullback towards the rider for a total of 2 inches of offset / pullback.  In the pictures you notice that the clutch line is nearly tight, still has a little slack in it even when the lever is pulled.  The brake side has slightly more slack than the clutch side.  I can turn the bars from stop to stop without binding.  It will require a couple different bolts which I will supply.  I'll add an option for the bolts on the webpage today.







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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2012, 05:09:56 pm »
Just a suggestion, as you have spent some time and money here to develope those;
I see that you have created compound angles at the sides of the mount, to allow them to clear the top of the fork caps, might want to consider early on (i.e. now) creating some more "relief" in that area (possibly like a cylindrical recess/cut out/counterbore) to allow those that have the need to lower the front end, the capacity to do so (dropping the trees on the fork tubes and exposing 1/2"-3/4" of the top).
Even though I don't need this option, many here have lowered the suspension, and I have seen broken hadlebars because the did so without realizing the forks were jammed against the bars, flexing them and placing undue stress on them.

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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2012, 07:20:54 pm »
Just a suggestion, as you have spent some time and money here to develope those;
I see that you have created compound angles at the sides of the mount, to allow them to clear the top of the fork caps, might want to consider early on (i.e. now) creating some more "relief" in that area (possibly like a cylindrical recess/cut out/counterbore) to allow those that have the need to lower the front end, the capacity to do so (dropping the trees on the fork tubes and exposing 1/2"-3/4" of the top).
Even though I don't need this option, many here have lowered the suspension, and I have seen broken hadlebars because the did so without realizing the forks were jammed against the bars, flexing them and placing undue stress on them.

nice looking machine work.

Thanks for the suggestion.  I'll keep that in mind.
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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2012, 10:32:48 pm »
I would like to see pics of the set up as a profile shot.  Maybe back away from the bike and horizontally, if that makes sense.  so I guess a side shot would be a better way to explain it.  If not I'll try to imagine it in my mind.  Thanks.

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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2012, 12:26:14 am »
This took a considerable amount of effort to create.  I hope this gives a good representation of what they can do.



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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2012, 12:36:47 pm »
Those pictures are OUTSTANDING. :sign0098: 

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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2012, 06:28:49 pm »
WOW!!  Ask and you shall receive!!  Thanks for the pics.  Now if I could just get you to send me 1 Million dollars.   :))

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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2012, 06:32:26 pm »
If I had a 2010 I would have already bough them, hope you come up with something for the 2009.  I may change the dash box out but that is another 100.00 and that gets me into saving for the LSL kit and keeping the box.

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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2012, 06:36:18 pm »
WOW!!  Ask and you shall receive!!  Thanks for the pics.  Now if I could just get you to send me 1 Million dollars.   :))

Hahaha!  You might have better luck asking for a sandwich or a burger.  I have someone coming over on Wednesday to see if we can affordably mount a '10 plus dash on a '08-'09.  I'll give it a shot.
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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2012, 07:22:44 pm »
Maybe someone more proficient can help but these look like the required parts for the conversion, $121.24 with the discount and free shipping.   The brackets do not bolt up to the body panels in the same location so that appears to be the only obstacle requiring some light fab work.  I look forward to your findings when you get your hands on the 2009.  Here is a thread showing the reverse process.
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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2012, 10:37:35 pm »
Looks good. How much are you asking?
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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2012, 10:42:46 pm »
Looks good. How much are you asking?


$175 and free shipping anywhere in the U.S.  Outside of the U.S. needs to use the shipping calculator.  http://www.advancedsporttouring.com/Concours_Risers_p/c14-03.htm
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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2012, 02:28:49 pm »
A question on risers,

How do they affect handling of the bike?  You are altering the control points for the steering, so what affect does it have on the bikes performance?

Got a brand new 2012 and looking for some risers, but have this nagging question in the back of my head.

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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2012, 02:33:01 pm »
I have over 3,000 miles on them so far and honestly, to me, I haven't noticed a difference.  I ran these through The Dragon and surrounding roads for three days.  I offer a 45 day return policy where if you feel differently, just return them.  No hassle.  No problem.
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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2012, 06:10:35 am »

I have over 3,000 miles on them so far and honestly, to me, I haven't noticed a difference.  I ran these through The Dragon and surrounding roads for three days.  I offer a 45 day return policy where if you feel differently, just return them.  No hassle.  No problem.


I might try them, especially with 45-day return policy. I am using Murph's risers I Phil's wedges. They work very well, but I would love for the bars to move rearward 2 - 3 inches further than Murph's risers. I am 5' 8" and I use a Corbin seat with a "nose job" that makes the front of the seat narrower. Currently I sit on the front part of the seat. I could sit further back if the bars had a longer reach. I want to ride in a more relaxed and upright position, because I have carpal-tunnel-like issues and tight forearm ligaments. My arms get tired, and my palms get numb. There are separate threads about numbness and forearm pain. I am not trying to start a new post about arm pain here.

Another option would be the risers from Kawasaki Authority that are installed on many police bikes. They are pricier, but they offer 2, 3,or 4 inches of rearward movement, with minimal cable rerouting. That thread is located here at http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=7441.0. I was ready to pull the trigger on these risers from Potholes, but I might call Kawasaki Authority before I make a decision. Whatever I buy needs to work with Phil's wedges. I am surprised how long it took to write this post on my BlackBerry Playbook. Sorry for the inconsistent font sizes and treatments. I could not easily fix them with the playbook interface.

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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2012, 01:20:07 am »
JUST ORDERED as set and a set of Murphs Phil's Wedges....

Can't wait to get them on and improve my daily ride to work.

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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2012, 10:56:35 am »
JUST ORDERED as set and a set of Murphs Phil's Wedges....

Can't wait to get them on and improve my daily ride to work.

Order came through.  I'll get those out today.
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Re: New kind of C14 Risers - More pullback than standard ones
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2012, 01:23:38 pm »
I have been toying with the idea of trying yours but at the present use the Ram attachments on my Murph risers. Can you describe your upcoming version of Ram attachment?