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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2015, 05:24:25 pm »
Yay, I'm glad it worked!

I'm hoping to get mine re keyed for both the trunk an helmet locks if possible. My E55 is custom painted to match the bike, so if I ever sell the bike, the trunk will go too:




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Re: One key for all locks! (v47 retrofit to E55?)
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2015, 06:28:02 pm »
There might be a simpler fix.

I saw someone (don't recall who) that had modified their lock so that the key could be removed in the Locked,, AND in the Unlocked position.
Worked well because he could still lock/unlock the mechanical lock on the V47, without having to use his key each time.

Is this possible, or had he just wedged something into his lock?

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Ted,

I cant remember who had the original idea, but I followed their instructions and it worked on mine. (now this is with a C10 ignition key)
From my best recollection:
Remove the GIVI tumbler from the case. Insert the ignition key into the tumbler, you'll notice the 'wafers' will be up and down in relation ship to each other. Gently file down (I carrrefully used a dremel sanding drum) the wafers until they are flush. I filed down the wafers in stages, filed some, put the lock in, tried it about 3-4 times before they were filed down enough.
The ignition key now operated the GIVI lock, plus, with the ignition key you could turn the lock to the unlock position, remove the ignition key and be able to open the trunk, pop the handle up, release and re-install the trunk on the mount plate without the key.

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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2015, 06:54:14 pm »
Ordered mine today!
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Re: One key for all locks! (v47 retrofit to E55?)
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2015, 09:39:52 pm »
There might be a simpler fix.

I saw someone (don't recall who) that had modified their lock so that the key could be removed in the Locked,, AND in the Unlocked position.
Worked well because he could still lock/unlock the mechanical lock on the V47, without having to use his key each time.

Is this possible, or had he just wedged something into his lock?

Ride safe, Ted

Ted,

I cant remember who had the original idea, but I followed their instructions and it worked on mine. (now this is with a C10 ignition key)
From my best recollection:
Remove the GIVI tumbler from the case. Insert the ignition key into the tumbler, you'll notice the 'wafers' will be up and down in relation ship to each other. Gently file down (I carrrefully used a dremel sanding drum) the wafers until they are flush. I filed down the wafers in stages, filed some, put the lock in, tried it about 3-4 times before they were filed down enough.
The ignition key now operated the GIVI lock, plus, with the ignition key you could turn the lock to the unlock position, remove the ignition key and be able to open the trunk, pop the handle up, release and re-install the trunk on the mount plate without the key.

HTH

Yeah, you can do this, but it makes it so that A LOT of keys work with the lock, not only the ignition key. I suppose it's not a horrible idea considering how easy it is to remove the box if you really wanted to...

Also, for those thinking about buying the Kawasaki kit mentioned earlier, I think you can buy full wafer re-key kits for ~$40.00 on eBay.


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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2015, 11:03:53 pm »
The lock kit is 29.99 full retail tho.
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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2015, 04:56:34 am »
Ordered mine today!
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Link please. I am not sure which kit/item you are talking about.
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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2015, 03:39:56 pm »
http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/999940499

The one key system is the lock component for the new case. I used the wafers from that kit in my original E55 lock and now have one key for all locks.

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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2015, 06:10:18 pm »
http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/999940499

The one key system is the lock component for the new case. I used the wafers from that kit in my original E55 lock and now have one key for all locks.


Thanks! I think I will do that! Maybe I can get my ProjekD helmet locks to toe the line too. :)
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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2015, 07:53:21 pm »
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Thanks! I think I will do that! Maybe I can get my ProjekD helmet locks to toe the line too. :)

I'd be interested in that too. I have my eye on those....somebody else said that they had the helmet locks re-keyed. It might be as simple as moving around the wafers inside the locks. I'd love to see pictures of one of the helmet locks disassembled.

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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2015, 01:06:37 am »
I had my helmet locks re-keyed. The locksmith only charged me $10 to do this.
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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2015, 10:38:48 am »
Question: there is a type A and type B lockset, apparently. The link to the Kawasaki site goes to a type A. Are all C14 ignition keys type A ?
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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2015, 10:48:27 am »
Question: there is a type A and type B lockset, apparently. The link to the Kawasaki site goes to a type A. Are all C14 ignition keys type A ?

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If you open up the link to the Assembly Instructions it explains the differences between the type A and type B keys and shows two separate part numbers: use P/N 99994-0499 if you have a type A key and P/N 99994-0528 if you have the type B key.
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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2015, 11:20:59 am »
If you pull the key from your active fob it should have an "A" or a "B" stamped on it before the number.
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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2015, 01:45:23 pm »
You can't buy it from the link provided above. There is no button there to buy it with. Maybe I need to bring it up in Google Chrome to see it?
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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2015, 05:53:54 pm »
It's a dealer item only I think.

My dealer actually gave me the wrong kit. I got style A and needed style B, but the wafers worked anyway. All I needed was the wafers. Actually, come to think of it.....I'm not sure that I couldn't have just used the existing wafers and rearranged them to work. Anyway....

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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2015, 07:00:38 pm »
I found it using google, a couple places sell it, for the same price it shows on the link above. Will re-find it tonight and order a kit.
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Re: One key for all locks! (v47 retrofit to E55?)
« Reply #41 on: April 09, 2015, 10:34:16 pm »
I picked up my bike yesterday and bought the one key system. Here are pictures of the kit and a copy of the instructions. I haven't pulled the lock from my e55 yet but I'm hoping there is some way to make this work.

Mr. Bandit, it looks like there are enough wafers to do a couple of locks? At least, from the pics, looks like there is 4 or 5 of each size? If so, if I got 1 kit, do you think I could re-key 2 Givis? The Givis are for 2 different C14s. Looking to try this with my case and my brother's case and if one kit will work for both, we could split the cost and save some coin.

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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #42 on: April 09, 2015, 11:08:45 pm »
SWOJO,
DEFINITELY MAYBE!   :nananana:
Let us know if it works out for you.
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Re: One key for all locks! (v47 retrofit to E55?)
« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2015, 04:43:55 pm »
Mr. Bandit, it looks like there are enough wafers to do a couple of locks? At least, from the pics, looks like there is 4 or 5 of each size? If so, if I got 1 kit, do you think I could re-key 2 Givis? The Givis are for 2 different C14s. Looking to try this with my case and my brother's case and if one kit will work for both, we could split the cost and save some coin.

I think so.....give it a go! I absolutely LOVE using one key.

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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2015, 09:43:29 pm »
My new Maxia 55 has a laser cut key. Are the new c14s coming with laser cut keys?

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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2015, 02:58:59 am »
I don't know what you mean by lasr cuy cut, but my Maxia is new too. The key had the grooves down the middle of the key. There is a wafer at the closest to the lock opening that fits only that style key. Pull it out and the bike key will slide right in.....then just adjust the wafers to fit.

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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2015, 01:57:58 pm »
I don't know what you mean by lasr cuy cut, but my Maxia is new too. The key had the grooves down the middle of the key. There is a wafer at the closest to the lock opening that fits only that style key. Pull it out and the bike key will slide right in.....then just adjust the wafers to fit.
Yes, I am talking about the key with the points and valleys facing inward and the outside edge is straight. When I got my Givi Maxia I took the key to a locksmith to have a duplicate made. He said he could not make one because he did not have a laser key cutter machine. I assumed the two types of keys were incompatible, and can't really visualize how it works. But since you have done it I am glad to hear I'm wrong. I will re-read the thread and try to get my head around it.

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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #48 on: September 27, 2015, 03:22:48 am »
All, doing research on this and noticed that the "one key" system will not fit in the E55 case, but I'm assuming that it will fit in the V47 case?

To the best of my knowledge the Kawasaki case (new 2015 monokey type not the old Monolock type) virtually IS  a Givi V47nnt.

I've been researching all over the web and I could have sworn I read somewhere that the Type A key core will not fit as a direct replacement to a V47.

Can anyone shed some light on this??

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Re: One key for all locks! (including Givi Maxia E55)
« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2015, 11:01:08 pm »
dialed,
That is correct.
I had the "A" key and the core is way to short to work in the give case lock.
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