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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2011, 07:55:37 pm »
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Mike I was under the impression that Guhl only flashed the ECU for stock exhaust.  I have been wanting to send him my ECU from my Vance and Hines CS1 equipped bike but he doesn't have a specific MAP for it yet.  Did you just do the reflash for the stock exhaust on your Area P bike?
If so, sounds like what I had actually thought; that since my bike runs very well with the CS1 with no fuel adjustments etc, that the stock exhaust reflash should work fine for aftermarket.  Having said that I do have a very minor amount of decel pop with VH but not bad.

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2011, 09:30:58 pm »
Jag,
I'm not as into the details as some. I wanted low end torque that I knew was missing, and has been missing from every stock bike I have ever owned. I consulted my friend, who is on here, Tundra Tom. He recommended butterfly removal and an Area P. Then someone else recommended the re-flash. That was appealing because I didn't have to tear the bike apart.  When I do the basic mods of PC and slip on, I'm very happy. That is enough for me. I don't run dynos and go crazy into the details, but I'm grateful to those that do. I do my research, go for what I believe to be the best mods, and that works out great for me.  I spoke to Don about using an Area P slip on, and he assured me I would get a noticeable improvement. He was right. I'm not sure what map he used, but if you call him he is very friendly and will answer any questions you have. Interestingly he said the Area P full pipe actually performs slightly worse, which made the decision to do the slip on a real no brainer! Compared to doing a jet kit or even a PC this is way easier!

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2011, 11:20:34 pm »
Area P. A thing of beauty.

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2011, 12:39:38 am »
That is a great looking pipe! 

I have spoken to Don and to your point,  he didn't say his stock pipe map wouldn't work well on my CS1 equipped bike, he just asked "how is the bike with the slip on running now?"  Seem's like a reasonable question when considering whether or not his re-flash would work well for after market slip on's.  He and Fred H have basically said the same thing; that it was likely the stock map would work just fine for the majority of slip on's but to gain maximum performance a map specifically for that muffler would be ideal.  My experience in the past has been that slip on mufflers do not require much if anything in the way of fuel mapping, only when you full exhaust changes are made is it abolutely necessary to re tune.

 I'm very eager to get it done though, even have considered putting the stock can back on.

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2011, 05:49:33 pm »
Hey, I have an idea. If you want a motorcycle for the sound of it, go buy a Harley. I love the way mine sounds and love the way it rides even more. I do believe I will keep my Kaw C14 and quietly blow by the loud Harley riders. :)

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2011, 07:31:57 pm »
I recently put the Area P Carbon slip on pipe on my 2011 C14.  I love the looks, it is a very good quality pipe, and went on smoothly by following the directions supplied.

It is barely noticeable in sound from the seat while riding, and at idle has a nice sound.  It does seem to have gotten a bit louder after putting some miles (perhaps about 1,000) on it, but it is not annoying.  Sometimes I wear a half helmet and it is not objectionable with that on either.

I had noticed the inside rear corner of the right bag got VERY hot with the stock pipe, and with the Area P just slightly warm. 

Area P claim a 15 lb weight reduction and I would tend to agree.  The stock pipe is VERY heavy comparatively.
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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2011, 02:10:08 am »
Jag,
I'm not as into the details as some. I wanted low end torque that I knew was missing, and has been missing from every stock bike I have ever owned. I consulted my friend, who is on here, Tundra Tom. He recommended butterfly removal and an Area P. Then someone else recommended the re-flash. That was appealing because I didn't have to tear the bike apart.  When I do the basic mods of PC and slip on, I'm very happy. That is enough for me. I don't run dynos and go crazy into the details, but I'm grateful to those that do. I do my research, go for what I believe to be the best mods, and that works out great for me.  I spoke to Don about using an Area P slip on, and he assured me I would get a noticeable improvement. He was right. I'm not sure what map he used, but if you call him he is very friendly and will answer any questions you have. Interestingly he said the Area P full pipe actually performs slightly worse, which made the decision to do the slip on a real no brainer! Compared to doing a jet kit or even a PC this is way easier!

Mick


Honestly if the re-flash would have been available "back in the day" I would have gone that route. As it is I'm still satisfied, the C-14 really is muted on the bottom end as stock.
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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2011, 01:43:36 am »
Ok. I recorded two short videos with the new Leo Vince installed; one with and one without the dB insert. This exhaust comes with the insert installed at no extra cost (unlike the other slipon options) There's also one of the stocker, for comparison.

I really like this exhaust with the insert installed. It has a nice sound, not too loud, and doesn't drone while at speed.

With dB insert:


Without dB insert:


Stock:

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2011, 03:42:52 am »
Sure looks alot better WG!  :great:
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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2011, 03:51:45 am »
Sure looks alot better WG!  :great:
That was the first reason I got the slipon, looks. Second was sound. You don't realize how really big the stock pipe is until you lay it on the ground next to the bike with the new one installed!!

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2011, 10:56:29 am »
WG, thanks for posting the videos.  I sure like the looks of the Leo Vince.  One of those is on my Connie farkle wish list.
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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2011, 08:36:33 pm »
You sure the db insert is in there?  I don't see the reduced exhaust opening like the insert that came with mine.

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2011, 03:17:45 am »
You sure the db insert is in there?  I don't see the reduced exhaust opening like the insert that came with mine.

I took several videos. I think I posted one without and two with the insert. Can you post a pic of yours for comparison.

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2011, 11:59:53 am »
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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2011, 04:33:43 pm »
Yep. That's what mine looked like.

Unless I posted the wrong versions of the "with" and "without" videos. Guess I better go look at YouTube again.

On another note. Is there a "secret" to getting that rubber stopper back into the insert bolt's access hole?

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2011, 12:11:10 pm »
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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2011, 09:49:12 pm »
I had a Leo Vince titanium arrive today.  It was a quick install and it is pretty darn quiet with the db silencer installed.  I like a quiet exhaust but do not like the huge stock can, so this will fit the bill real nice.  Again Wally thanks posting up the videos.

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2011, 04:06:03 am »
I had a Leo Vince titanium arrive today.  It was a quick install and it is pretty darn quiet with the db silencer installed.  I like a quiet exhaust but do not like the huge stock can, so this will fit the bill real nice.  Again Wally thanks posting up the videos.

You're quite welcome. Glad they could help.

I rode last weekend with the insert installed. It's very quiet (not potato launcher quiet, but...) and I liked it a lot. I'm going on a trip this coming week and I pulled the insert just for grins. I'll be taking it along just in case I find it to be too loud without it. I'll post my impressions when I get back.

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2011, 08:23:36 pm »
 I would like to hear a Leo Vince with insert right next to a CSOne with insert(IF anyone ever gets the CSOne insert).

 Where is the best (cheapest) place to by the LV?

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2011, 02:58:27 am »
www.pipecity.com is cheapest I could find and customer service was awesome.

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #45 on: September 04, 2011, 03:58:47 am »
Our trip to Deal's Gap this week got re-routed due to weather. I removed the insert from the Leo Vince today on some great roads around Eureka Springs, Arkansas. Barely heard it although there is a nice burble on decel. I'll probably put it back in this week and see how I like it, but the insert made it very on my test rides last week.

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #46 on: September 04, 2011, 12:37:34 pm »
We're heading to Eureka Springs next Month from DFW.  I can't wait to get on some of the roads after riding around here all Summer.  I can't hear my Vance and Hines CS1 without insert either at full cruise unless the windshield is all the way up, and even then it's a very muted purr.

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2011, 03:15:19 am »
We're heading to Eureka Springs next Month from DFW.  I can't wait to get on some of the roads after riding around here all Summer.  I can't hear my Vance and Hines CS1 without insert either at full cruise unless the windshield is all the way up, and even then it's a very muted purr.

Find 123 south of Eureka Springs!!!! Amazing road. Will give you more detail when I get home and can get to my laptop.

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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2011, 12:25:40 pm »
The Area -P has gotten noticably louder of late. 30,000 miles on it and will be re-packing it this winter.
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Re: quietest swlipon exhaust
« Reply #49 on: October 29, 2011, 11:22:40 pm »
I find the Area P slip on to be just right. Don't feel it's too loud on the highway at all. It's got a nice bark when you get on it, but not too much.

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