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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2016, 06:04:45 pm »
I love my new Laam seat. I recently rode to Seattle, the long way and had no discomfort issues. My first day was 1560 miles in 22hr 45 min in the saddle.
I stopped by to meet Seth as I was passing through, to shake the man's hand, or rather give him a hug, but he wasn't open.  It was a holiday weekend.
Seth has my seat pan right now. My anticipation is through the roof. Can't wait.

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2016, 07:04:14 am »
I love my new Laam seat. I recently rode to Seattle, the long way and had no discomfort issues. My first day was 1560 miles in 22hr 45 min in the saddle.
I stopped by to meet Seth as I was passing through, to shake the man's hand, or rather give him a hug, but he wasn't open.  It was a holiday weekend.
Seth has my seat pan right now. My anticipation is through the roof. Can't wait.

Seth has mine as well.  Anticipated build date is 1 AUG.  I bought a core off eBay and had it sent directly to his shop. Figured it would save me time since I'm  overseas for now.  I'm  planning on the works. Leather, heat etc.
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2016, 01:53:54 pm »
Received yesterday.. The fit and look are outstanding. Very comfortable for my 20 mile commute. Going on a weeklong ride starting Saturday. That will be a good test. Lots of twisty roads and lots of miles.


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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2016, 02:42:15 pm »
Received yesterday.. The fit and look are outstanding. Very comfortable for my 20 mile commute. Going on a weeklong ride starting Saturday. That will be a good test. Lots of twisty roads and lots of miles.

Would you share the info on Your risers and bars? How far up and back did you achieve with them ,thanks.

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2016, 04:27:25 pm »
Received yesterday.. The fit and look are outstanding. Very comfortable for my 20 mile commute. Going on a weeklong ride starting Saturday. That will be a good test. Lots of twisty roads and lots of miles.

Would you share the info on Your risers and bars? How far up and back did you achieve with them ,thanks.

It is the LSL conversion kit put out by Spiegler. I bought mine from Murph. I originally had it on my 09 and moved it to my 2014. They say it will not fit.. I had to do a little cable rerouting but it works perfect.

https://spieglerusa.com/controls/handlebar-conversion/handlebar-conversion-kit-4314.htm

I don't have any specs on rise and pullback. I am sure its somewhat variable since the bars can be rotated. For me it was worth the money. I like the way the bike rides and it is much easier on my back for long hauls.

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2016, 04:58:02 pm »
Received yesterday.. The fit and look are outstanding. Very comfortable for my 20 mile commute. Going on a weeklong ride starting Saturday. That will be a good test. Lots of twisty roads and lots of miles.

Would you share the info on Your risers and bars? How far up and back did you achieve with them ,thanks.

It is the LSL conversion kit put out by Spiegler. I bought mine from Murph. I originally had it on my 09 and moved it to my 2014. They say it will not fit.. I had to do a little cable rerouting but it works perfect.

https://spieglerusa.com/controls/handlebar-conversion/handlebar-conversion-kit-4314.htm

I don't have any specs on rise and pullback. I am sure its somewhat variable since the bars can be rotated. For me it was worth the money. I like the way the bike rides and it is much easier on my back for long hauls.
Thank you, will save this.

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2016, 11:40:55 pm »
I'm glad this thread popped back up.  I got to sit on (but not ride) a Russell Day Long on a 2011 today. I definitely would not choose this seat for myself. I'm 6-3 and did not enjoy the extra height. The bike had Heli-Bar risers under the stock bars like I have. The other thing that was the real killer is the position of the wings. They are almost like having railroad spikes sticking in the backs of my thighs. The problem, I think, is the location of the wings; they are too short and too far back. Maybe riding is different, but I don't understand this seat at all.

The "wings" on a Baldwin GT are positioned much better as they are far forward and support the thighs. This is what I have on my ZR7 and what I would get again for the C14 if I were so inclined.

I don't like the deep pocket of the Laam, or the slick surface of the ones I've experienced, or the signature arrow pattern. Not saying it's a bad seat; just as many folks like Laam as they do Baldwin. I'm in the Baldwin camp.

BUT… I really like the look and feel of the new stock Kawasaki seat and the OE touring seat. I would probably consider one of these before a custom seat these days as I like my 2011 OE seat.
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2016, 02:48:41 pm »
I'm glad this thread popped back up.  I got to sit on (but not ride) a Russell Day Long on a 2011 today. I definitely would not choose this seat for myself. I'm 6-3 and did not enjoy the extra height. The bike had Heli-Bar risers under the stock bars like I have. The other thing that was the real killer is the position of the wings. They are almost like having railroad spikes sticking in the backs of my thighs. The problem, I think, is the location of the wings; they are too short and too far back. Maybe riding is different, but I don't understand this seat at all.

The "wings" on a Baldwin GT are positioned much better as they are far forward and support the thighs. This is what I have on my ZR7 and what I would get again for the C14 if I were so inclined.

I don't like the deep pocket of the Laam, or the slick surface of the ones I've experienced, or the signature arrow pattern. Not saying it's a bad seat; just as many folks like Laam as they do Baldwin. I'm in the Baldwin camp.

BUT… I really like the look and feel of the new stock Kawasaki seat and the OE touring seat. I would probably consider one of these before a custom seat these days as I like my 2011 OE seat.

I have a friend that was complaining about the "wings" on his seat. He told me yesterday that the seat must have finally broken in. He no longer feels them.

The pocket on the Laam seat can be adjusted to your liking. I spent 30 minutes on the phone with Seth talking about my seat including pocket depth and location.

The OE seat on the Concours is pure garbage IMO. My Sergent seat was much better but still not where I wanted to be.

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2016, 10:52:52 pm »
baldwin GT,  had to go with risers and wedges to deal with the extra height, its an inch or so taller than stock but WOW.   didnt like it at first, thought  oh no ive spent too much money this isnt good,all the remorseful things you think when youve spent 6 bills and its not exactly right. rode my  sargent  seat for a year  till i thought hey get risers, try to make it work, the risers helped a lot to get me into a comfortable spot with the baldwin but wasnt quite there. then i picked up a used set of wedges off the fackbook group,,TA-DA perfect. spent a week and 3k miles to and from the national this year.  lots of parts of me hurt after a week and that many miles  but my butt wasn't one of them.  i have to recommend loren mock's baldwin saddles,  may take a bit of adjusting on the bars but the seat cannot be faulted.

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2016, 07:37:45 pm »
I had Laam do my seat and am very happy with it. I rode the 800 miles it took to get it done in person but it was well worth the trip to get the extra attention to detail. A few hours and it was off and riding home the next day. Will do it again on my next bike.

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2016, 12:21:08 am »
Hi,
        Something, I noticed on my LAAM. :o

Took a couple weeks/month, to "form" or break in.... :motonoises:

And got better, all the time! :great:

The OEM seat, NEVER "formed," or got better! ;D
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2016, 02:24:16 am »
I went with an Explorer RS. I like the way it's flat in the seating area (very little forward lean) and it's lower than the stock seat by at least 3 inches when sitting on it. It has gel pads in the rider and passenger sections. The passenger section is much wider than the stock seat and eliminates the forward lean just like the rider section. It also provides a nice lower back rest with the step in the seat. Plenty of pics on the web to check it out. It was 350.00 from Revzilla, another selling point for me. I can now ride until I need gas (200 plus miles). Huge improvement over the stock seat

I have the Saddlemen Explorer RS on mine as well and I have to agree with everything you said.  Got mine from Revzilla also.
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #37 on: October 07, 2016, 12:52:40 pm »

Seth has mine as well.  Anticipated build date is 1 AUG.  I bought a core off eBay and had it sent directly to his shop. Figured it would save me time since I'm  overseas for now.  I'm  planning on the works. Leather, heat etc.

Finally received shipping notification on my Laam.  There was quite the delay waiting on the seat heaters.  I opted for the Carbon Fiber pattern vinyl vs the leather, also.  I expect the seat to be delivered late next week or early the week after...I'm  sure it'll  be worth the wait. :motonoises: After all,  I haven't  missed any riding due to the seat.
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2016, 10:07:19 am »
Finally received shipping notification on my Laam.  There was quite the delay waiting on the seat heaters.  I opted for the Carbon Fiber pattern vinyl vs the leather, also.  I expect the seat to be delivered late next week or early the week after...I'm  sure it'll  be worth the wait. :motonoises: After all,  I haven't  missed any riding due to the seat.

Got it today!  Can't wait to try it out! :)
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2016, 02:10:44 pm »
  Mike,  What seat did you end up buying ??
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2016, 03:53:32 am »
Baldwin in Ostrich vinyl with heat. I ride about 18,000 miles per year and a good seat is a must for me. I can never ride a stock seat for long and this is my 4th custom seat and its great. $775 by the time I shipped both ways but worth every penny of it. Get the heat if you ever ride below 40 degrees and you won't need heated gear. Love it.
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2016, 12:09:04 pm »
Seth now has a second seat pan from me. I should be getting it back in a few weeks. It was sent out to him early and he is actually a little ahead of schedule now. Also seems to be doing better on communicating and returning calls. I can't wait to get a comfortable seat again.
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2016, 12:06:51 pm »
I could never have done 6000 miles this fall without this Baldwin Seat.

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2016, 10:54:19 pm »
i have both the baldwin gt and their sport seat for my 2014.i prefer the sport for local day trips and the gt for the longer trips.  :motonoises:
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2016, 04:18:43 am »
+1 Laam, love mine.  Tried Sargent and Corbin first.
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #45 on: December 27, 2016, 01:40:37 am »
Had a Laam and currently on a Baldwin GT. Great seats both of them but Baldwin gets the nod from me.
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #46 on: December 28, 2016, 06:24:35 pm »
The Baldwin web site says, "We are currently not taking new orders."  Also, I have sent a couple of emails and have not gotten a response.  Does anyone know what's going on???

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #47 on: December 28, 2016, 07:22:35 pm »
The Baldwin web site says, "We are currently not taking new orders."  Also, I have sent a couple of emails and have not gotten a response.  Does anyone know what's going on???


Couldn't tell you but its very possible they are swamped with work.

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2016, 01:13:31 am »
Could be the holidays too. Some shops & biz around this time are closed as its slow around this season.  :'(
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2016, 01:28:16 am »
I ordered mine around this time from Baldwin