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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #75 on: July 04, 2017, 12:53:04 am »
Something, I noticed on my LAAM. :o
Took a couple weeks/month, to "form" or break in.... :motonoises:
And got better, all the time!

Received my LAAM seat this afternoon.
A wee bit hard but confident that it gets better
I'm patient
Slight, new muscle memory for "up 1-1/2 and back 1-1/2" but didn't have to readjust the mirrors
Good choice with the "asphalt" vinyl
Good thread
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #76 on: July 05, 2017, 01:28:35 am »
After trying my friend's Laam this weekend, I can honestly say that for long rides I made the right decision. Go with Baldwin GT
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #77 on: July 05, 2017, 03:01:25 am »
My backside didn't agree with Laam either.  Tried on a FJR and ST1300.  Picked up a Russell on this forum and so far so good. 
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #78 on: July 05, 2017, 11:26:43 pm »
I ordered a Sargent modular world seat back on May 29 and still haven't received it.  I called and they said it was still in production.  Their website said it takes 2-3 weeks.  Has anyone had it take this long.  It's been about 5 weeks.

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #79 on: July 06, 2017, 04:16:44 am »
I ordered a Sargent modular world seat back on May 29 and still haven't received it.  I called and they said it was still in production.  Their website said it takes 2-3 weeks.  Has anyone had it take this long.  It's been about 5 weeks.

About the same amount of time it takes one of the custom builders... :o


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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #80 on: July 06, 2017, 07:47:20 am »
In the past I've had Rich's saddle on SV1000, Corbin on Triumph900, and Motarrad custom seat on R1100S. The latter saddle was extremely comfy, but combination of body lean and persistent vibrations at cruising speeds deemed Beemer useless as tourer.
I also noticed that '15 and up C14 has an updates saddle that is softer than pervious models. So I am not too eager to plunk down several hundred $$ to discover new seat isn't better - or even worse -  than OE one.
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #81 on: July 06, 2017, 09:06:01 pm »
I ordered a Sargent modular world seat back on May 29 and still haven't received it.  I called and they said it was still in production.  Their website said it takes 2-3 weeks.  Has anyone had it take this long.  It's been about 5 weeks.

I purchased my Sargent World Sport Performance seat through internet retail Revzilla, before the spring rush. It was in stock.
Usually retailers have "in stock" what manufacturers don't have.
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #82 on: July 06, 2017, 09:11:16 pm »
Something, I noticed on my LAAM. :o
Took a couple weeks/month, to "form" or break in.... :motonoises:
And got better, all the time! :great:

200 miles on the LAAM today.
I'm starting to like it.
A lot!
I believe Seagiant1 is correct.

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #83 on: July 06, 2017, 09:47:23 pm »
Something, I noticed on my LAAM. :o
Took a couple weeks/month, to "form" or break in.... :motonoises:
And got better, all the time! :great:

200 miles on the LAAM today.
I'm starting to like it.
A lot!
I believe Seagiant1 is correct.

Hi,
      Of course I am!!! :great:

I was wrong,one time, back in 1968..... :(

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #84 on: July 31, 2017, 12:18:53 pm »
So far the Corbin has worked very good for me. Got a Russel Day Long and need to try that one on a longer ride. Apparently Baldwing had some issues and web is not reachable.
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #85 on: August 02, 2017, 05:43:45 am »
Perhaps 15+ C14's revision of seat has made the difference. I've just completed ~700 mile ride around the state. I am happy to report, despite few buzzy moments down-under, I had no major discomfort during ride between fuel stops. Wearing proper riding undergarments is important, however. 

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #86 on: August 02, 2017, 07:07:09 pm »
Hi,
       Something we might need to remember is that in a seat....

"To hard", is bad, but....

So is "to soft"!!!

Just sayin what feels great for 30 min....

May not feel so good in a couple of hours! ;D

This is where quality foam and workmanship come in! :great:
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #87 on: August 02, 2017, 09:08:51 pm »
My pan ships out to Laam on August 11th. I'm trying to write down what I want/need as precisely as I can, so a few questions for the Laam-lovers;

Info: 2" risers and peg-lowering kit both installed. Thank you Murph!

1.) I can just flat-foot my C14 with the stock seat and my 32-inch inseam. Is the default Laam seat the same height as the stock? I had it in my head that 1" up and 1.5" back may be about right for me. Opinions?

2.) If I lean forward slightly, my forearms are perfectly horizontal, but my tailbone is balanced on the "backrest". Looking at all the pictures I can, I'm thinking that a 1.5" back movement should seat me in the bucket like a catchers mitt. Opinions?

3.) Mr. Laam mentions an "Oversize" option, but I have seen no clear description of what this means? Anybody have one or have info about it?

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #88 on: August 03, 2017, 12:42:45 am »
Hi,
      At 6'7" I had my seat set back 1.5' and only .5" raised!

Remember for me if I went to far up (raised)...

Then my knees would be to high for the "wells" against the "tank"! ;D

I do not know what "normal" is....

Remember to let the seat "break in"!

It will be like night and day from the OEM!!! :great:
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #89 on: August 03, 2017, 04:14:31 pm »
Quote from: NeroW link=topic=4714ow1.msg606495#msg606495 date=1501711731

1.) I can just flat-foot my C14 with the stock seat and my 32-inch inseam. Is the default Laam seat the same height as the stock? I had it in my head that 1" up and 1.5" back may be about right for me. Opinions?
I'm 73" 34" inseam
1-1/2" up for me takes my knee joint angle from 100deg to 95 deg but 1-1/2" up initially felt high. Now I'm used to it and my knees feel much better after 2 hours of riding, relative to stock height.

1-1/2" back for me is perfect. I initially sit and stay in the same spot on the seat versus sliding forward on the stock seat
Under heavy decel on 7% grades desceent, I still slide forward, however. I have the "asphalt" seat vinyl and LAAM admits all of his materials are still slippery somewhat.


2.) If I lean forward slightly, my forearms are perfectly horizontal, but my tailbone is balanced on the "backrest". Looking at all the pictures I can, I'm thinking that a 1.5" back movement should seat me in the bucket like a catchers mitt. Opinions?
Definitely, I naturally position the same now, every time I mount up. But as mentioned above, I still slide forward under brake decel on a 7% grade descent

3.) Mr. Laam mentions an "Oversize" option, but I have seen no clear description of what this means? Anybody have one or have info about it?
LAAM described that to me as a "tractor seat". My LAAM seat has 2" wing for "comfortable" seat pan width. It is not a LAAM "tractor seat", it is comfortable but it does restrict your feet-down posture when stopped. I'm not a big fan of that new seat width. LAAM says that width is the key to butt-thigh support. LAAM didn't recommend stock seat width. My LAAM is pictured above on this thread.

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #90 on: August 07, 2017, 06:12:17 pm »
Is Baldwin still in business?

I want to get a couple of seats made for mine. Maybe an around-town/day-tripper version and a long-haul setup, which could be swapped back and forth between bikes as needed.

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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #91 on: August 14, 2017, 02:41:02 am »
Not sure if anyone does podcasts out there but this one is pretty good with Seth Laam http://wheelnerds.com/e/butts-and-hot-soup/

pics too


 https://www.instagram.com/wheelnerds/
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Re: Seats - Laam, Baldwin GT, or Saddlemen Explorer RS
« Reply #92 on: August 14, 2017, 03:36:31 am »
Is Baldwin still in business?

I want to get a couple of seats made for mine. Maybe an around-town/day-tripper version and a long-haul setup, which could be swapped back and forth between bikes as needed.

From what I've read, he stopped production, the first of the year.  His domain name is for sale, now.  That's a pretty good indicator...he's out of business.  The other's mentioned in this thread are also pretty good seat makers.  I've had two done by Seth Laam and I also have a RDL that I bought used.  Can't say enough positive things about those two. :motonoises:


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