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Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« on: November 30, 2014, 06:49:35 pm »
I have decided to go with a CS1 slip on muffler but I don't want to add a fuel processor or do a reflash. I would like to hear about other members experience with doing a slip on only, any issues ?
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2014, 06:54:16 pm »
Butch, you should have no issues with a slipon only.

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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2014, 07:47:19 pm »
I had an AreaP slip on with nothing else done and no problems what so ever. It shaves off a few pounds and makes the bike look way better.  :great:

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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2014, 12:26:10 am »
Put a Two Brothers M5 on mine, no processor or flash.
No issues, get some popping on decel from time to time, seems to depend on how high the revs are at decel.
Did loose alot of weight pulling the potato launcher off.
I am considering doing a reflash this Winter.
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2014, 04:05:10 am »
I have the CS1.  No need to mess with the fuel system. Bike runs fine.
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2014, 02:44:33 am »
Hey folks, could you please post pictures? ;D  That's exactly what I want: get rid of the ugly-as-hell stock can but without having to mess with the ECU. However, although better than stock, the acres of pipe showing with aftermarket cans is not attractive at all. A GP-style muffler would be awesome on this bike, save more weight, and look better IMO. But I guess there's no such thing, right?

Finally, which is the best bang for the buck of a slip-on? I want a can that does NOT require repacking, like the cheaper alternatives, like V&H, TBR, etc. The most mentioned is 'AreaP'; hope to see pics of that. I want something louder than stock, but still refined. So hopefully with a 'dB killer', so I can leave it in. Doing it mostly for the weight savings and aesthetics. Thx.
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2014, 03:01:49 am »
on my C14 I've ran a stock pipe since '10.  Only bike I've ever owned with a stock exhaust.

Then Steve in Sunny FL handed me a stock C14 muffler at his shop.  GEEZ GEEZ it was HEAVY.

After all this time and me saying this big beast bike just doesnt need aftermarket, my slip-on will be arriving TOMORROW  :great:    :great:    :great:   

edit:  I need to schedule a visit to a back cracking chiropractor. I haven;t been the same since I held that stock C14 muffler  :o
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2014, 03:38:38 am »
Which did you buy?
I weighed 2 Slip On's,,,  The Area P and Yoshimira are about 14 pounds lighter than the stock Bazooka....

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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2014, 03:44:56 am »
I have a stock and I think a 2brosoff the bike right now. , I'll weigh them tomorrow and post up (if I can remember) but offhand, I'd have to say it's going to be way more than a 14 # difference. Steve
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2014, 03:54:52 am »
on my C14 I've ran a stock pipe since '10.  Only bike I've ever owned with a stock exhaust.

Then Steve in Sunny FL handed me a stock C14 muffler at his shop.  GEEZ GEEZ it was HEAVY.

After all this time and me saying this big beast bike just doesnt need aftermarket, my slip-on will be arriving TOMORROW  :great:    :great:    :great:   

edit:  I need to schedule a visit to a back cracking chiropractor. I haven;t been the same since I held that stock C14 muffler  :o

Bout freakin time bro...  :-[

Why not go with a full system though?   ???

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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2014, 04:02:23 am »
Which did you buy?
I weighed 2 Slip On's,,,  The Area P and Yoshimira are about 14 pounds lighter than the stock Bazooka....

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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2014, 04:05:39 am »
on my C14 I've ran a stock pipe since '10.  Only bike I've ever owned with a stock exhaust.

Then Steve in Sunny FL handed me a stock C14 muffler at his shop.  GEEZ GEEZ it was HEAVY.

After all this time and me saying this big beast bike just doesnt need aftermarket, my slip-on will be arriving TOMORROW  :great:    :great:    :great:   

edit:  I need to schedule a visit to a back cracking chiropractor. I haven;t been the same since I held that stock C14 muffler  :o

Bout freakin time bro...  :-[

Why not go with a full system though?   ???

Here kitty, kitty, kitty...  ;D :beerchug:

LoL!  Bike barely means enough to me for the slip-on, since its just used as my miles eater road bike. And that splurge on the slip-on was only  to eliminate the weight of a petite lady being drug under the right side of the bike  :beerchug:
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2014, 11:29:44 am »
JC,
Best slip-on cost and quality wise is hands down the Delkevic. 200$ or so for an 18 inch CF. They sound mellow but not loud and have a nice growl when you drop the hammer. I ran mine for just over 10K before I went to the Dark way more power side and installed a full Area P system and a re-flash. The Area P is a whole new world of sound and emotion though!
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2014, 12:05:56 pm »
+1 :beerchug:

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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2014, 02:57:48 pm »
For those that have the Delkevic. How does the sound compare to the Area P?
Setting side by side, do they sound different, louder??

In my case, I found a used Area P (carbon Fiber) for the same basic price as a new Delkevic (Polished).
I understood that the Area P was quieter..
So, I went that way.....

My understanding is; with any Slip On a reflash is not "needed", but it is a Plus you can do (for a slightly better torque/power curve) "if you wish"...

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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2014, 04:52:59 pm »
  OK, I weighed the stock center pipe and muffler, as well as the 2 bros.

  stock - 18#

  2 bros - 4#

  looks like connie rider was right on  ;) Steve
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2014, 05:10:51 pm »
that means the extra 14 pounds from the holiday season will be offset!   :rotflmao:

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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2014, 06:25:22 pm »
Okay, so between Delkevic (never heard of that brand before) or AreaP. Will look into that. One thing I'd like to retain that nobody seems to have it is the stock heat shield below the peg. Is it possible to use it with either of the above-mentioned aftermarket midpipes? It's not even well integrated with the stock exhaust, but it has to be functional. Don't want my right foot roasting under the exposed pipe. Or even burning my boot/pants. It's not pretty, but doesn't look bad at all. Need to find out if those 2 choices need repacking or not. Don't want to mess with that.

Finally, does the C14 have a cat? If yes, it has to be in the can, right? Fourteen pounds of saved weight is a lot. That being the case, even a slip-on is basically rendering the exhaust as straight-thru. So if remapping is not needed, it has to be borderline so. Want to make sure engine is not running too lean anywhere. That's not good. Thanks.
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2014, 06:35:59 pm »
Will have to find discussion, but yes there is a heat shield (or 3) that can be purchased for the C-14 Slip On muffler installs.
One Location to get them (that I know of) is; You can find them on Ebay..

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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2014, 06:51:27 pm »
. Finally, does the C14 have a cat? If yes, it has to be in the can, right? Fourteen pounds of saved weight is a lot. That being the case, even a slip-on is basically rendering the exhaust as straight-thru. So if remapping is not needed, it has to be borderline so. Want to make sure engine is not running too lean anywhere. That's not good. Thanks.
The main CAT is in the header so replacing the can will still leave the CAT in the header. I think there maybe a second CAT in the can but I am not sure about that.

You wont run lean with just a can change. 
Just an FYI: AreaP has 2  different  cans.  The slip-on CAN  has a diameter to match the stock pipe. The FULL AreaP system  has a much larger header and collector pipe therefore this  ApreaP can has a larger diameters to be able to accommodate the larger pipes.

I my opinion the full AreaP has the best sound of any exhaust I have heard so far on a C14  BUT when your behind it- it is LOUD at WOT----Very loud!!

The full Muzzy system sounds fantastic and  more refined and not as loud as the Full AreaP when at WOT. Both systems make beautiful music from the riders position.
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2014, 05:57:27 am »
You wont run lean with just a can change.
Thanks a lot Mike. I'll only put a slip-on, and most likely, the C/F AreaP. Just need to ask them if their packing material is lifetime. So the stock shield under the peg does not fit the slip-on tubing? If it fits the stock collector, it has to be the same diameter, no? Maybe I'll find a way to make it fit. If not, then will look at eBay for alternatives. My only other mods will be a radiator screen with fiberglass screening material, grip buddies, a shorter/better screen (if not 2015), a better seat (if not 2015), and a FendaExtenda (glued, not bolted). Thx.
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2014, 12:34:17 pm »
I put a CS One on my '13 C14 and had to use muffler paste and muffler tape to plug up all of the exhaust leaks at every joint. I was quite disappointed with the sloppy fit for the price of this can. When all the leaks were fixed and my wife and I could breathe clean air, it was a nice pipe, though. I really like the clean look, but the sound was a bit on the loud side for me. I won't be going with V&H on my next bike.
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2014, 01:21:01 pm »
I tried finding a way to use the stock heat shield.

Area P and other mid pipes are NOT the same dia as stock Connie.
So stock heat shield Won't work.
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2014, 03:06:41 am »
The CS One comes with a heat shield.
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Re: Slip on Exhaust/ Fuel Processor
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2014, 09:43:57 am »
I've been running without a heat shield on the mid pipe (Delkevic 18" CF and now the full Area P  CF ),  for over a year. No melted boots, no third degree leg burns, and no catastrophic detonation of all things Kawasaki. So I guess I don't really need to worry about that thin 4 inch piece of added nothingness called a mid pipe heat shield!
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