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Re: T-Rex Turnbuckle System for Trailering; Anyone interested?
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2018, 07:18:06 pm »
If T-Rex doesn't come thru, I might try this option.
On the spools, I've had to make all of mine them on my little lathe.
   This "took a lot of time" so I never intended to offer them to anyone.. {Plus I'm retired and lazy}.  :great:
** I may have found a way to buy some inexpensive spools {that I could modify quickly}.
   If so, I might be able to offer them for the rear Links at about $15, and for the front with {a 9/16" inner axle}
   for about $30.
       I ordered some to see if it will work.

I think the ones form T-Rex will be nicer, and their spools are designed to work with their Turnbuckles..
I still intend to talk with them after I see if we have enough folks that are interested??

NOTE:
Ron is going to post my inner axles/spools for you to see what I've been talking about.
   Mine is overkill. ie; Strong!!!
The front and the left side of the rear are 9/16" {Extra Strength} All Thread.
The right rear is 3/8" {Extra Strength} All thread (Because the hole thru the right side of the axle is 3/8").
Additionally, all of my spools are built to rest against the inside of the axle holes for more support.

Not sure how T-Rex builds their front inner axle, but their spools are better looking than mine.
On the rear, they use the links and install the spools there, instead of thru the axle.

Hope this helps you visualize the parts..

Ride safe, Ted
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Re: T-Rex Turnbuckle System for Trailering; Anyone interested?
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2018, 10:07:03 pm »
Here's a look at Ted's latest spool set up. I have not broken my toy hauler out of winter storage yet, so I have not installed them, but in case you'd like to see the latest effort  (Thanks Ted! Definitely worth a Shiner Bock or even a couple of Pearl beers... ). :great:  Ted can come on here and do the detailed descriptions, etc.


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Re: T-Rex Turnbuckle System for Trailering; Anyone interested?
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2018, 06:48:46 pm »
I talked to Tom "T-Rex" last week and he said he'd made about 30 sets but had a hard time marketing them.  If anyone buys any from him make sure and let him know it was a COG thing.  Wouldn't hurt the cause if you let him know I'm sharing the info ether.   I had him ready to donate some stuff a couple of years ago and he had trouble getting in touch with the right person.  I'll be seeing him later this week.  I'll ask him about availability and pricing. 

 I'm working on a single wheel trailer idea that uses his rear spools with his help.  If it works I'll post.  If it doesn't I'll hide my head in shame.

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Re: T-Rex Turnbuckle System for Trailering; Anyone interested?
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2018, 01:51:53 am »
I'm very interested in something like this assuming I can make it work on my Kendon trailer.  If front spools and turnbuckles and possibly rears are available count me in. 

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Re: T-Rex Turnbuckle System for Trailering; Anyone interested?
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2018, 11:36:01 am »
Guys
Is there a secret to opening the pics on this thread?  I am very interested in adding the turnbuckle holddowns to my trailer, but unable to open your photos to better clarify...
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Re: T-Rex Turnbuckle System for Trailering; Anyone interested?
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2018, 01:48:38 pm »
I'm very interested in something like this assuming I can make it work on my Kendon trailer.  If front spools and turnbuckles and possibly rears are available count me in.

Gary, Ted will be demonstrating & have this setup on display at my place. Good opportunity for you to check it out.

Hey Ted.  :nananana:

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Re: T-Rex Turnbuckle System for Trailering; Anyone interested?
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2018, 02:34:48 pm »
All, I just got off the phone with T-Rex. Nice guys, but some confusion about the Concours restraint system.
The promised again to get me the info today.

Don, contact ron203 {earlier post} and he should be able to help you. Most of us cansee th ephoto's fine.

Cliff, yes, I know I'm a sinner.  :nananana:   
          But yes, I'll have my trailer {and maybe Robert's?} at your event.

G-Mazz, all you need to do is to determine where to drill the holes needed to mount the turnbuckles.
Should be pretty simple.

Not so Wild Turkey,  Tom wasn't there today. Rubin is supposed to talk with him.
PS;  :P

I did some "guestimates" on costs.
NOTE: This is a Guestimate, not exact.... (Will have that info soon)
  Turnbuckles/clamps; $99.95 per set. (Better than my home-made)
  Rear Spools; $17.95 {spools are made from Anodized aluminum/multiple colors}
  Front spool adapters; $39.95. {Not sure if Spools are included?) 
                   
If I have that right; Complete set up (front/rear); would work out to about $257.80}
                               Front; $139.90
                               Rear;  $117.90

I know that some may gasp at that, but a turnbuckle system is far more secure than straps, there is no compression of the suspension, and the T-Rex system should cost about the same, or less than other restraint systems. {and be more secure}

Again. I am not speaking for T-Rex. (I may have made some errors in my posts).
               Just trying to help other COGgers that trailer.
                  Nothing in this for me...

Ride safe, Ted
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Re: T-Rex Turnbuckle System for Trailering; Anyone interested?
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2018, 05:49:34 pm »
connie_rider or ron203,

Please indulge me.
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On your front set-up it appears the right side has the all-thread screwed into the spool and the left side passes through and uses a nut. Why did you not also tap the left and screw directly into the spool? On the rear it looks like an internally threaded tube on the left that mates to all-thread going through the right side. How is that attached to the spool? Your post said the all-thread was "Extra strength". Is that how it was marketed or does it have a grade number?
  On the T-Rex front mount the part that attaches the turnbuckle to the spool appears to have a bolt going up from the bottom with a nut at the top. Is that correct.
 
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Re: T-Rex Turnbuckle System for Trailering; Anyone interested?
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2018, 06:22:34 pm »
On your front set-up it appears the right side has the all-thread screwed into the spool and the left side passes through and uses a nut. Why did you not also tap the left and screw directly into the spool?

3 reasons  {did I mention I'm not a machinist?}
   1) {To be honest} It didn't occur to me at the time I was building them.   :-[
   2) I remove mine after I each use, & It is easier to tighten and remove a nut than a round spool.
   3) On my little lathe it takes me about 2 hours to make the each spool.
         Drilling thru instead of threading takes a bit less time.


On the rear it looks like an internally threaded tube on the left that mates to all-thread going through the right side.
The left is a piece of the 9/16" all thread. 1/2" from the bottom of the spool,,, I turned the middle section down (to 1/2" OD) to fit inside the middle section of the axle.
I then drilled and tapped the ID of the {left} 9/16" all-thread to screw the {right} 3/8" all-thread into it.


How is that attached to the spool?
  The left spool screws onto the 9/16" all-thread.
  The right spool slides over the 3/8" all-thread.


Your post said the all-thread was "Extra strength". Is that how it was marketed or does it have a grade number?
They just referred to it as high strength, and I opted to go to HS Fine Thd {9/16"-18} over stock {course thd/weaker mat'l {9/16"-12}} all-thread.
    Not certain of exact grade. I do know that it is not grade 8. {ie"It's tough, but not brittle} so, might be a Grade 5


  On the T-Rex front mount the part that attaches the turnbuckle to the spool appears to have a bolt going up from the bottom with a nut at the top. Is that correct.
No, that is a spring loaded pin, that latches their clamp to the spool.
NOTE: When attaching turnbuckles to the trailer, {angle is important to allow upper clamp to fit into slot on spool and not touch the bike}..
 
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Not a problem. Will answer all questions and assist if others want to try to make their own.
     But, buying everything from T-Rex will be the easiest/quickest way to get you a good system.

NOTE: I recently found and ordered anodized spools from China.
   After they arrive, my intention is to see if I can do mods of them to save time when I make them. {2 hrs each is killing me}
   T-Rex does not use an inner axle on their design. A spool (w/ I think 10 mm bolt) is screwed directly into the swingarm.
   ie; The rear anchor does not have to be as strong as the front as the front does most of the holding.
         The 3/8" I use and the 10 mm bolts are plenty strong for the rear.. 


Ride safe, Ted

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Re: T-Rex Turnbuckle System for Trailering; Anyone interested?
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2018, 07:42:02 pm »
Thanks for sharing the info.
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« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2018, 08:23:45 pm »
Only have a minute so this is short and sweet.  I visited with Tom "T-Rex" today and he said that he had just put the C14 tie downs on the web site.  I've not looked so I don't know.  More to follow when I get a chance.  Ride safe friends.
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« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2018, 09:56:31 am »
OK so it's not on the site yet.  I talked to Tom and he promised to get it up ASAP.  I don't know prices.  I wouldn't speculate as I can't even get the prices right when I bid my own work.  I will say he has them made and in stock as I picked up 2 sets yesterday.  I love Ted's set up but I'm not willing to put in the work to make something that's already available for sale.  Old, lazy not sure how to tell the difference.  I'm both so guess it matters not.  Again please if inquiring or purchasing please let them know it's a COG thing or tell them I referred you and they'll know it's the COG group.  Ride safe
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Re: T-Rex Turnbuckle System for Trailering; Anyone interested?
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2018, 11:40:49 am »
There are turnbuckles on the T-Rex site,  under 'Trailer Restraint. https://t-rex-racing.com/catalog.php?category=1318

I suppose those are the ones.
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« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2018, 11:43:04 am »
Yes those are the same for all bikes.  It's the spools that are specific to model of bike. 
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Re: T-Rex Turnbuckle System for Trailering; Anyone interested?
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2018, 12:52:42 pm »
I received a note from T-Rex yesterday with price and info on the entire system.
     (all components; for Front and back is $279)
      NOTE: Their offering us a 10% discount if we buy soon.. {working on details about what "soon" means}

I sent them a reply {requesting front price only, and all part numbers}.

      NOTE: My guestimate was a bit low as I was using the Front/rear Plastic "Slider" set up to guess.
                Front "Spool" hardware has a stronger design, and they are made from anodized aluminum..


Good news is; They do have the parts in stock now..
    Just working on some details...

ie; They gave Robert some anodized spools {to replace his prototype spools} and there is a question about thread size of the new vs his prototype...  He plans to check on that today and we'll post more info soon.

** If you intend to buy, I recommend contacting T-Rex now.
     Let them know your COG, and need more info before pulling the trigger.
      Doing that should help you get the 10% discount when we finalize this.
              972-243-7868   Ask for Ruben.

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« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2018, 12:55:22 pm »
Yea.  What Ted said.
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« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2018, 03:45:59 pm »
I may have discovered a way to secure my C-10 with Turnbuckles too.  <Mad scientist grin>  >:D
I already have the turnbuckles on my trailers, so worth a try...  ;)

After my cheapo Chinese Spools arrive, I'll see if I can make it work.

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« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2018, 11:43:06 pm »
Just got this from T-Rex.

Front Spools - $39.95
Rear Spools - $24.95
Strapless Tie-Downs {Trailer Restraints / Turnbuckle system} - $119.95 {This price has gone up}

Call them "now" and get 10% off.
That offer ends Friday I think...

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« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2018, 11:46:44 pm »
Good job sir
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« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2018, 11:19:29 pm »
Ok, ya'll sed you were interested.
         T-Rex came thru for us. "I just got this note from them".
Those that are interested, buy NOW as you get a 10% discount until March 25...
   NOTE: They extended their sale for us. {Consider it a group buy deal}..
  Before you order, look at the parts and information for each component.
       Ask them {or me} any questions you have...

  *** Interesting Idea; T-Rex choose to not use a wheel chock, and mounted the turnbuckles pulling towards one another...
                                  I use a wheel chock and mount my Turnbuckles pointed away from each other.
                                    Both ways will work fine...

PS: Notice the COG sticker on the bike in the photo's?
      That is Robert's Connie..

Ride safe, Ted

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hello,
We have extended our tuneupseason promo code {10% off} until the 25th. The items are now available on our website for purchase!

We have 5 listings for the Concours tie down kits.

1. Strapless Tie Downs / turnbuckle (x1 is $119.95)   {guestimate; x1 with 10% off is 107.95; x2 with 10% off is $215.91}
https://t-rex-racing.com/catalog.php?item=457

2. Front Axle Spools ($39.95)    {guestimate; 10% off is $35.95}
https://t-rex-racing.com/catalog.php?item=1433

3. Rear Axle Spools ($24.95)    {guestimate; 10% off is $22.45}
https://t-rex-racing.com/catalog.php?item=1434

4. Front and Rear Axle Spool Combo ($59.95)   {guestimate; Combined is a $5.00 saving, 10% off is $53.95}
https://t-rex-racing.com/catalog.php?item=1435

5. Front & Rear + 2 sets of strapless tie downs ($274.95)     {guestimate; Complete package is a $30 savings, 10% off is $247.45}
https://t-rex-racing.com/catalog.php?item=1436

All orders will come with free uv coated decals. Orders over 200 will include a free shirt of your choice as well (s - 3xl available).
  Please let us know if you have any other questions or would like to find out more information.

Your business is appreciated.
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« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2018, 11:40:11 pm »
Guys
Thanks for working with T-Rex to get the C14 spools available.  Ordered my front turnbuckle set today with the discount.
Should work well for the trailer when needed....

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« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2018, 11:52:59 pm »
It is a pleasure.  They are good people if you can survive a slight communication disconnect.  Hope you love them when you try them. Good job Ted.  Woo Hoo
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« Reply #47 on: March 17, 2018, 11:49:42 pm »
Glad you got them Don.
I'm sure they'll work out great for ya... :great:
Let us know when you get them installed...

To all that sed they would be interested if we could get fronts for approx. $150;
     You "can" get the complete front set-up for $143.95 if you buy now.


If you can't buy, not a problem, but please contact T-Rex, mention COG, and talk with them about the set up.

Explanation;
We've been pressing them pretty hard.
   Don't want them to think we've been talking smack.
       & some contact from COG will help others that might be interested..

Ride safe, Ted

Update;
          I'm a "lot" closer to making my Turnbuckles work with a C-10.
            A Used front axle {for practice machining} arrived today.
               {I did the measurement's and I think it's gonna be do-able}... :great:
            A Used rear axle, and {Cheapo Chinese} spools are on order from Ebay..
         Just waiting for my parts to arrive so I can do the build's... 
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Re: T-Rex Turnbuckle System for Trailering; Now; Group Buy..
« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2018, 08:18:57 pm »
Ted you need to start a new tread , very few , including me ... is going to read thru...  to get to the end >:(

Do your self a favor , just the NEW trex info and things should pick up...

Yes I ordered a set  :) :nananana: :great: :lol_hitting:
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Re: T-Rex Turnbuckle System for Trailering; Now; Group Buy..
« Reply #49 on: March 20, 2018, 09:57:09 pm »
Well I tried to order a set two hours ago , he said within 10 min.I will receive  a email , still no mail? :o
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