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Concours 14 Discussion (C14 / ZG1400 / 1400GTR) => Accessories C14 => Topic started by: cb on March 31, 2014, 04:51:25 pm

Title: Throttle lock/Cruise control
Post by: cb on March 31, 2014, 04:51:25 pm
Mornin folks.  I am new to this site, as I just purchase my first sport touring scooter.... 09 Concours.  I am not a new rider, just new to this type of bike.  Love the hp & torque.  I am looking at a throttle lock, but there are a bunch of em out there.  Just curious as to which works best on this scooter. 

Thanks in advance for your help.  cb
Title: Re: Throttle lock/Cruise control
Post by: llmotoll on March 31, 2014, 05:02:55 pm
all i know is when i installed the ThrottleMeister lock, it transferred the vibration/numbness to me left hand which was a plus to me. dont really use it much, i put it on so could remove my numb right hand , but now the left hand get numb at certain RPM/speeds
When used it works as advertised.
The black and silver milled compliments the Phils Farkles style A or B rack.
Title: Re: Throttle lock/Cruise control
Post by: JimBob on March 31, 2014, 05:30:44 pm
I had one of the universal throttle locks for a while (forget the brand, but it was the same lock I used in the 80's - completely unchanged). It worked fine to hold the throttle.

Some people like the rubber-band style that goes on the end of the throttle - I found it tricky to roll onto the throttle while riding.

I eventually got rid of the throttle locks and went with the Rostra CCS-100 Cruise control. True, proper cruise control for about $200 from Murphs:

http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=cruise+control&osCsid=4cdca74f5196b5e63534febc23d8f4af&x=-217&y=-196 (http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=cruise+control&osCsid=4cdca74f5196b5e63534febc23d8f4af&x=-217&y=-196)

There's another cruise control available that uses a solenoid/servomotor to control the throttle instead of the traditional vacuum canister. The Rostra - it's a simpler install, but costs nearly double just a little more. I don't recall the name, but if you do a search here you should find it pretty quickly.

Title: Re: Throttle lock/Cruise control
Post by: Joe S. on March 31, 2014, 05:47:59 pm
I don't know about what works best but I have a Throttlemeister on mine and it works pretty well.
I'd like to have a true cruise control but such installations are not for the likes of me.
Title: Re: Throttle lock/Cruise control
Post by: RoadRocket on March 31, 2014, 06:31:23 pm
Throttlemeister for me :great:
Title: Re: Throttle lock/Cruise control
Post by: ZG on March 31, 2014, 07:44:07 pm
Throttlemeister for me :great:

+1... same here.


Title: Re: Throttle lock/Cruise control
Post by: gPink on March 31, 2014, 09:25:46 pm
I have both a TM and an OmniCruse.. http://www.omni-cruise.com/ (http://www.omni-cruise.com/)  ....I find the Omni well made and easy to use.
Title: Re: Throttle lock/Cruise control
Post by: Zarticus on March 31, 2014, 10:54:19 pm
I had one of the universal throttle locks for a while (forget the brand, but it was the same lock I used in the 80's - completely unchanged). It worked fine to hold the throttle.

Some people like the rubber-band style that goes on the end of the throttle - I found it tricky to roll onto the throttle while riding.

I eventually got rid of the throttle locks and went with the Rostra Cruise control. True, proper cruise control for about $200 from Murphs:

[url]http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=cruise+control&osCsid=4cdca74f5196b5e63534febc23d8f4af&x=-217&y=-196[/url] ([url]http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=cruise+control&osCsid=4cdca74f5196b5e63534febc23d8f4af&x=-217&y=-196[/url])

There's another cruise control available that uses a solenoid/servomotor to control the throttle instead of the traditional vacuum canister of the Rostra. It's a simpler install, but costs nearly double. I don't recall the name, but if you do a search here you should find it pretty quickly.

The Rostra is not vacuum operated & does not use vacuum or need a canister, I think you must have the  CCS100. Here is the link for the Rostra  http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=369&osCsid=4cdca74f5196b5e63534febc23d8f4af (http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=369&osCsid=4cdca74f5196b5e63534febc23d8f4af) 
Title: Re: Throttle lock/Cruise control
Post by: notsluggo on April 01, 2014, 02:43:29 am
OmniCruse.. [url]http://www.omni-cruise.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.omni-cruise.com/[/url])  ....I find the Omni well made and easy to use.


Me too.  Works as advertised.
Title: Re: Throttle lock/Cruise control
Post by: JimBob on April 01, 2014, 04:55:29 pm
Thanks Zarticus for the correction.

The Rostra is the servomotor driven one.

Mine is the CCS-100 (vacuum operated)

Given the price difference today, I'd go for the Rostra. No vacuum canister required (so less space used) and a simpler install.


Will edit my earlier post.
Title: Re: Throttle lock/Cruise control
Post by: Pistole on April 01, 2014, 09:38:56 pm
caterpillar yellow rubber o-ring.

simples.

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Title: Re: Throttle lock/Cruise control
Post by: TFly on April 02, 2014, 10:28:27 am
caterpillar yellow rubber o-ring.

simples.

.
+1...best value and great conversation piece "what is that YELLOW thing?
Title: Re: Throttle lock/Cruise control
Post by: C14lvr on April 02, 2014, 12:54:20 pm
When I first bought mine, I installed a Throttlemeister. Took it on a 2500 mile trip with some other buddies who had Rostras.

Here's what you'll figure out quickly...

1) If you never ride longer than an hour or so, and you're young with no signs of wrist problems or arthritis, stock with nothing will be fine.

2) If you ride day rides, and ride for longer periods on your SuperSportTourer, you'll probably decide you'll have no idea what Kawasaki was thinking when they put NOTHING on these bikes for control, and you're right hand/wrist is gonna need something to relieve some pain from time to time.

3) If you travel long trips like I do, and go with only a Throttlemeister or a throttle lock, you'll constantly be changing throttle positions to maintain proper speed. This is true for both group riding, or solo... Example- solo... Go up a hill at highway speed with a throttle lock... your speed slows. Go downhill, your speed increases... usually over the speed limit.
Group- (especially if they use active cruise...) you'll constantly be adjusting the throttle to stay with the pace. After several hours of this, it gets real old, FAST!

4) Active CC, (like the Rostra,) is the bomb-schnizzle for these kinds of situations!
I rode last year on a 4000 mile round trip to Vegas and Zion from Oklahoma with a group that no one had active cruise but me. So, I was asked to take point, to keep a steady pace... Helps fuel mileage, and trip time... And protects the group from speeding tickets! A win-win, and over time, pays ya back for the $275 the system costs.

5) if you're older, like me, your right hand and elbows need those breaks!

As I said, I have both Throttlemeister and a Rostra. Rostra's been the best farkle I ever bought for this bike, by far. Some may disagree, and YMMV, depending on how you use your C14.

For me, the Rostra's a no-brainer life saver!
Bob
Title: Re: Throttle lock/Cruise control
Post by: webnetxpress on April 03, 2014, 05:17:09 am
I have to agree with the last post.
I can't believe mother Kawasaki didn't put a cruise control on their top of the line sport Tourer   now of course the fjr has it which causes a disparity when choosing between the two similar bikes.

Anyway I put a Kaoko throttle lock on mine.  Works same as the throttlemeister but the kaoko has little 'nub' ridges on its circumference which I prefer when engaging with my pinky finger.  I just find it easier to lock on and off with those.

It is a needed/mandatory farkle for like $70 I think.  Anything beyond an hour straight and I simply need to give the hand a break from constantly squeezing the throttle.  This does it easily.  You do have to readjust up or down hills but its fine for me.  I just am to lazy to pull apart my brand new bike to install a full cruise system and I guess I don't like the looks of an after market switch system somewhere on it.  The throttle lock is completely invisible....basically.

My 2 pennies worth.