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to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« on: December 12, 2011, 05:09:07 am »
this the only bike i have every had i have done nothing to other then a bigger wind screen and a front fender extension to protect the radiator ,, and tires ,, the stock pipe is so nice that it is quiet  :) but i know it is heavy ,, now a slip-on will be much lighter but louder , $400+ for something that only make noise , is not worth it to me , unless you all have a used one ??? to sell or talk me in to getting a new one ,, lets here the pro and con ,, thanks   
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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2011, 06:10:37 am »
I have a C10, and have thought about the pipe deal.  After thinking about it for 6 months, and having PIPE envy when i see a nice set of mufflers on other bikes, i hear them ride away and decide to keep the stock cans on mine.  I love being able to ride 10-12 hrs a day and not have a headache. 

This Connie is the only bike i've never added exhaust on.  I've had semi loud bikes, i've had bikes you had to wear ear plugs to ride, and now i've had a bike that I can barely hear. 

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2011, 10:06:11 am »
I replaced the OEM can with a really nice looking stainless steel Area P slip on can. It was light and looked great. It also wasn't very loud. But it was still louder than stock. And after a long trip to Nova Scotia a few years ago. I went back to that ugly azz Howitzer that Kawasaki seems to think is aesthetically pleasing?   ::)    But at least it's quiet. The droning got on my nerves after a while. And that's with the quiet slip on. I can't imagine one of the loud pipes!

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2011, 11:11:09 am »
I replaced the stock exhaust with a Two Brothers CF and really like it.  That cannon was so UGLY it had to go! :P  It removes about 15lbs of ugly fat and just makes the bike look better, IMHO. :)  One of the things I like about the Two Brothers is that  you can buy inserts to lower the dB level if you find it too loud.  They have a couple of options.  I haven't installed one yet but may consider it before the cross country trip next year.  It certainly is louder but I really like the throaty sound with the new exhaust.  Good luck!

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2011, 12:33:33 pm »
The bike runs so good with the stock one I don't think I will ever change it. I have a 4 into 1 Kerker on my KZ900 with a competition baffle if I decide I want to piss off the neighbors or when I get the urge to buzz the local Harley shop during one of there event days...Tim
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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2011, 12:39:20 pm »

I was on the fence about the pipe for awhile also.  I remembered that I had put V&H pipes on my Nomad which are not loud but have a low tone rumble to them.  I did an SS1K with that bike and I ended with a headache from the constant noise.

I love the quiet sound of the C-14 for long rides.  Now if I can just make my helmet just as quiet.

I think for me function wins out over looks.

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2011, 02:14:44 pm »
I replaced the stock exhaust with a Two Brothers CF and really like it.  That cannon was so UGLY it had to go! :P  It removes about 15lbs of ugly fat and just makes the bike look better, IMHO. :)
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 You know whats worse. Kawasaki decided to change the nice looking twin exhaust pipes on the ZX14, for twin cans that look like twin C14 cans! You really have to wonder what they are thinking sometimes.   :-[

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2011, 03:05:09 am »
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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2011, 12:38:35 pm »
Replace huge Ugly original with a stock rt side from ZX14.  Looks good, looks original, and still is quiet.  WIN, WIN!!

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2011, 12:47:11 pm »

I was on the fence about the pipe for awhile also.  I remembered that I had put V&H pipes on my Nomad which are not loud but have a low tone rumble to them.  I did an SS1K with that bike and I ended with a headache from the constant noise.

I love the quiet sound of the C-14 for long rides.  Now if I can just make my helmet just as quiet.

I think for me function wins out over looks.

We put a V&H 2:1 pipe on my wife's Vulcan a couple months ago. It's got a nice low rumble, a nice sound when you get on it, not super loud but a good sound, and at cruising speed, it's pretty quiet. Riding behind her and to the right, directly in the exhaust path, I can hardly hear it.

I agree on the helmet thing. The Connie is much louder than my Vulcan was as far as wind noise goes. Even with ear plugs in its pretty loud. Taller windshield helped some but I still have to duck down behind it to get it quiet. My next step is to start looking at different helmets and finding one that is less noisy than the 2 I have now.

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2011, 01:23:47 pm »

Man if you can find a quiet helmet let me know.

I'm hoping to hear some other pipes when I go to the S.E. rally, but for now I'm leaving well enough alone.
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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2011, 02:12:04 pm »
I replaced the stock exhaust with a Two Brothers CF and really like it.  That cannon was so UGLY it had to go! :P  It removes about 15lbs of ugly fat and just makes the bike look better, IMHO. :)
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 You know whats worse. Kawasaki decided to change the nice looking twin exhaust pipes on the ZX14, for twin cans that look like twin C14 cans! You really have to wonder what they are thinking sometimes.   :-[

And every single 2012 ZX14R buyer on zx14ninjaforum.com is going to dump the stock exhaust and put Brocks Performance CT-DUALS+ (the plus means it is reworked to better fit the 2012 and has bigger tubing) on.

Me.... I'm sort of split on the subject. I know I will be leaving the exhaust stock on my 2012 C14 at least the first riding season.

And unless I can find something just as quiet, they won't get changed.

Somewhere on this forum, someone said the Muzzy C14 exhaust is as quiet as stock. I find that hard to believe, having been associated with Rob Muzzy since 1975 when I dumped the Yoshimura exhaust off my Z1, and switch to Muzzy. Rob never made a quiet exhaust system in his life. Heh.
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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2011, 02:19:15 pm »
If you want quiet in a helmet try an Arai (any model they are all good) or the new Shoei Qwest is supposed to be very quiet as well.
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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2011, 03:19:50 pm »
Leo Vince Carbon Fiber.  The same dB as the stock pipe with the quiet insert.  Although the tone is lower.  Plus you drop 13.5 pounds.


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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2011, 03:22:28 pm »
I replaced the stock exhaust with a Two Brothers CF and really like it.  That cannon was so UGLY it had to go! :P  It removes about 15lbs of ugly fat and just makes the bike look better, IMHO. :)
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 You know whats worse. Kawasaki decided to change the nice looking twin exhaust pipes on the ZX14, for twin cans that look like twin C14 cans! You really have to wonder what they are thinking sometimes.   :-[

And every single 2012 ZX14R buyer on zx14ninjaforum.com is going to dump the stock exhaust and put Brocks Performance CT-DUALS+ (the plus means it is reworked to better fit the 2012 and has bigger tubing) on.

Me.... I'm sort of split on the subject. I know I will be leaving the exhaust stock on my 2012 C14 at least the first riding season.

And unless I can find something just as quiet, they won't get changed.

Somewhere on this forum, someone said the Muzzy C14 exhaust is as quiet as stock. I find that hard to believe, having been associated with Rob Muzzy since 1975 when I dumped the Yoshimura exhaust off my Z1, and switch to Muzzy. Rob never made a quiet exhaust system in his life. Heh.

My Muzzy (full ZX-14 setup) is quite a bit louder than stock. 
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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2011, 05:02:55 pm »
If you want quiet in a helmet try an Arai (any model they are all good) or the new Shoei Qwest is supposed to be very quiet as well.

I use the Schuberth C3, it makes Arai and Shoei helmets seem like wind tunnel machines.

I've used the C3 on my Brock's Performance CT-DUALS exhausted ZX14, and noise of that type nothing can stop but earplugs. And wearing earplugs in a C3 is sort of stupid.

Been around bikes for over 40 years, so I know a few things about helmets, noisy pipes, and the value of a quiet motorcycle when you are on an all day ride.
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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2011, 06:17:48 pm »
I've heard the Schuberth is very good but have no experience with them. Aside from being quiet, how are they? What head shape do they fit well?
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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2011, 06:27:12 pm »
Not to be a hard azz. But lets try to keep on topic. If y'all want to discuss helmets. The riding gear/safety section would be a more appropriate place for helmet discussions. There are already threads to read about plenty of helmets. If not what your looking for, start a new one. Yes it happens all the time. But when necessary, try to limit it to a short post, or try a PM or Email. Taking these threads off topic for more than a post of two can get confusing to folks. Thanks.

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2011, 06:39:35 pm »
No sweat Bob.

As to the exhaust, I really like the quiet but also think the looks are horrible on the stock can. How much noise do you pick up putting the older stock ZX-14 can on and is it a direct bolt on or are there mods required to make it fit?
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« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2011, 06:45:38 pm »
No sweat Bob.

As to the exhaust, I really like the quiet but also think the looks are horrible on the stock can. How much noise do you pick up putting the older stock ZX-14 can on and is it a direct bolt on or are there mods required to make it fit?


IIRC, I think I remember folks saying that the ZX14 exhaust is slightly louder. But not loud. You would have to remove or modify the center stand. (you can buy one from Muzzy with a core)  But IIRC, you have to get a certain year ZX14 header pipe to replace the C14's. You also need to make a bracket to hang the new left side can. I'm sure there are write up's on here somewhere.

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2011, 06:54:47 pm »
No sweat Bob.

As to the exhaust, I really like the quiet but also think the looks are horrible on the stock can. How much noise do you pick up putting the older stock ZX-14 can on and is it a direct bolt on or are there mods required to make it fit?

If you run a single can:
It might be a little louder than stock but not much.  I have only seen one and it seemed like a fairly straitforward swap to do a single side ZX-14 can.   IIRC the every ZX-14 can has a catalytic converter in it so that is another thing to keep in mind.
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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2011, 06:55:49 pm »
No sweat Bob.

As to the exhaust, I really like the quiet but also think the looks are horrible on the stock can. How much noise do you pick up putting the older stock ZX-14 can on and is it a direct bolt on or are there mods required to make it fit?


IIRC, I think I remember folks saying that the ZX14 exhaust is slightly louder. But not loud. You would have to remove or modify the center stand. (you can buy one from Muzzy with a core)  But IIRC, you have to get a certain year ZX14 header pipe to replace the C14's. You also need to make a bracket to hang the new left side can. I'm sure there are write up's on here somewhere.

The ideal year of ZX-14 header is 2006-2007 since they don't have the cat in them.
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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2011, 06:57:05 pm »
Actually the center stand didn't need anything unless maybe you are installing the whole ZX14 dual setup.  I think you could put a short standoff on the center stand catch but I don't think we did anything to mine and it works fine.  I just bolted up the rt side replacing the BUP without much of a problem.  If I recall all it took was a slight mod on the hanger.  It needed a short piece added to drop it about an inch lower to clear the C14 bag. 
Loudness, I don't notice it to be any louder.  If it is it is very slight and the bike also seems to run and perform the same. 

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2011, 08:09:59 pm »
Thanks guys. The stock ZX can looks way better than the stocker.
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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2011, 08:43:06 pm »
i just installed (last night) a Vance and Hines slip on to my 2011. I gotta tell ya, looking at the cs one and the stocker side by side reminded me how butt ugly the oem pipe really is.

i put a cobra slip-on exhaust on my 02 goldwing 2 years before i sold it. a little louder than stock but had a great throaty sound, like a 70's muscle car.

plan on getting guhl re-flashed soon.

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