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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #50 on: December 23, 2011, 04:02:42 am »
So how is the sound compared to stock?
   when the bike is cold ,, first off its a little deeper sound , till it drops down to normal then its the same as stock , one thing  noteworthy is that you can feel the amount of air coming out the end cap , WOW 3 feet back it hits you , i know it has no restriction now , now as for riding normal very close to stock just a little deeper sounds great ,,, get on it sure its little more deeper , but never loud . im sure if i take the insert out , it will be a different sound :) more like a sportbike , so ---- looks 100% better --- 14 lbs lighter ----- sound great ---- fit is fantastic ---- feels like it has more power for sure more torque :) ---- i got it in the box for $409 shipped so i could not pass it up .. i would say get one your going to love it 
love my concours 1400 , im trying to keep it stock :) hahaha

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #51 on: December 23, 2011, 09:07:47 pm »
road to work this morning 27 degrees out ,,,  :))  anyway 25 miles one way .. the pipe on the freeway , is quiet at least i cant here it over the wind noise ,,  so to me this pipe turns out to be perfect ,,,   
love my concours 1400 , im trying to keep it stock :) hahaha

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2011, 10:09:33 pm »
road to work this morning 27 degrees out ,,,  :))  anyway 25 miles one way .. the pipe on the freeway , is quiet at least i cant here it over the wind noise ,,  so to me this pipe turns out to be perfect ,,,

Congrats, Tony. I knew you'd love it. It's a great exhaust.

I took my insert out for a trip to Arkansas. It was definitely louder and had some decel pop. I put the insert back in when I got back home and then rode it to the Hill Country. Preferred it with the insert installed and it has stayed in ever since.

A buddy has one on his K1300S and he left the insert installed on his too.

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2011, 03:31:13 am »
road to work this morning 27 degrees out ,,,  :))  anyway 25 miles one way .. the pipe on the freeway , is quiet at least i cant here it over the wind noise ,,  so to me this pipe turns out to be perfect ,,,

Congrats, Tony. I knew you'd love it. It's a great exhaust.

I took my insert out for a trip to Arkansas. It was definitely louder and had some decel pop. I put the insert back in when I got back home and then rode it to the Hill Country. Preferred it with the insert installed and it has stayed in ever since.

A buddy has one on his K1300S and he left the insert installed on his too.
  i have a full on RC51 that is loud , so im not taking the inserts out , its in to stay ,
love my concours 1400 , im trying to keep it stock :) hahaha

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #54 on: December 30, 2011, 06:50:25 am »
boy, i am really torn between the csone and leo.

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #55 on: December 30, 2011, 06:53:51 am »
boy, i am really torn between the csone and leo.
i so love the Leo , 14 lbs lighter looks great and almost stock sound with insert in , and motor responds better now ,, its a win win
love my concours 1400 , im trying to keep it stock :) hahaha

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #56 on: December 30, 2011, 04:08:03 pm »
I am leaning that way.

Question for you, how easy is does it look like it would be to take the sticker off the muffler?

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #57 on: December 31, 2011, 06:08:27 am »
there is no rivets ,, and it is metal of some sort ,, maybe take a heat gun get it really hot and pop it off ,,, mine is staying on , it dont look bad at all 
love my concours 1400 , im trying to keep it stock :) hahaha

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #58 on: January 02, 2012, 02:41:31 am »
If you want quiet in a helmet try an Arai (any model they are all good) or the new Shoei Qwest is supposed to be very quiet as well.

Quietest helmet I've used is the Schuberth C3, it sure made a difference to me anyways.  The cost of the Schuberth is more than other helmets, but I found if you purchase a Schuberth from a German supplier you can save money (over $50) over a domestic price.   My Schuberth is the only helmet I've used that I can wear and listen to an mp3 player without having it cranked up to the max.   I found my normal ear plugs to be too quiet when I wear my Schuberth also.

Another consideration for cutting down on noise is to find the sweet spot for your windshield/head position depending upon your riding position, but I assume you know that.  With my other helmets the position of my windshield to the location of my helmet made little or no difference, but with the Schuberth the noise/buffeting almost cuts in half when you find the sweet spot.  The first time I found the sweet spot I tried my other helmets but it didn't make much difference compared to my Schuberth.   Unfortunately helmets, no matter what brand, do cause turbulance and that inturn causes noise. 

I'm still waiting for someone to make noise cancelling headsets for a helmet....sigh.
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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #59 on: January 02, 2012, 04:10:26 pm »
Anyone ever try or hear a Remus before?

http://www.remusexhaustshop.com/product/GTR-1400-07-up-Remus-HexaCone-Exhaust-Silencer/Default.aspx#

German made, and I know they make good car stuff.

Price seems to be a little higher than Leo.

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2012, 04:21:30 pm »
Sure they are listed in the farkle vendor directory.   ;)

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2012, 04:42:05 pm »
I did see that, but I haven't seen anyone post here with one.

Maybe I'll have to be the guinea pig! :)

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2012, 04:59:26 pm »
I did see that, but I haven't seen anyone post here with one.

Maybe I'll have to be the guinea pig! :)

IIRC Martin14 has a Remus.
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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #63 on: January 03, 2012, 03:46:24 am »
I did see that, but I haven't seen anyone post here with one.

Maybe I'll have to be the guinea pig! :)

IIRC Martin14 has a Remus.

Same buddy that has a Leo on his K1300S has a Remus on one of his other BMW's (R1200GS??). I'd have to ask him which he likes better, but IIRC they both sound about the same and he runs the inserts in both. I believe he has Akropovic on his other bikes, but I'm not sure.

Honestly, I doubt you can go wrong with any of them, but I definitely prefer using the inserts.

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #64 on: January 04, 2012, 08:05:03 pm »
Took the plunge and ordered the Leo Vince. I was leaning towards the Remus but odly the part # appears to be the same for a Concours and a K1300GT which kind of spooked me a bit. Anyhow, the quiet of the Leo and the number of positive posts sold me.

Now, I'll wait until it confirmed shipped and then I'll send my ECU to Guhl. :)


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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #65 on: January 05, 2012, 01:34:16 am »
Took the plunge and ordered the Leo Vince. I was leaning towards the Remus but odly the part # appears to be the same for a Concours and a K1300GT which kind of spooked me a bit. Anyhow, the quiet of the Leo and the number of positive posts sold me.

Now, I'll wait until it confirmed shipped and then I'll send my ECU to Guhl. :)
   your going to love it , i dont even plan on ever taking out the insert here is what mine looks like :)
love my concours 1400 , im trying to keep it stock :) hahaha

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #66 on: January 05, 2012, 01:49:46 am »
Took the plunge and ordered the Leo Vince. I was leaning towards the Remus but odly the part # appears to be the same for a Concours and a K1300GT which kind of spooked me a bit. Anyhow, the quiet of the Leo and the number of positive posts sold me.

Now, I'll wait until it confirmed shipped and then I'll send my ECU to Guhl. :)

Install the Leo Vince exhaust, ride it a bit, then after the reflash, tell me how much difference you believe you get. I have the LV and I'm contemplating the reflash.

Buddy says he thinks the Remus is a better exhaust, but does cost a good bit more. (He has both on bikes. See post above.)

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #67 on: January 05, 2012, 02:16:04 am »
I like my Leo. The insert reduces noise (obviously) but its quiet either way.

I removed my flies and added a pcv. Probably a similar result to the remap. The difference is amazing and the flash or pcv is far more valuable than the exhaust. The low end response si far smoother, stronger, and better. I notice it riding through a neighborhood at 20 mph, or in traffic.   I would  give up my leo if I had to .  The pcv will stay.  No way would it ever go.

Oh, th eeasy way to remove th eleo insert is with a wooden hammer=handle. Find one that just fits inside the insert.  Push it in and wiggle the handle up and down. It will then slide right out.  There is a setscrew to remove first.   Its not  a bad idea to remove it and coat the insert with anti-sieze. It makes gettign oen out  a year later far easier.

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #68 on: January 05, 2012, 04:17:06 am »
Took the plunge and ordered the Leo Vince. I was leaning towards the Remus but odly the part # appears to be the same for a Concours and a K1300GT which kind of spooked me a bit. Anyhow, the quiet of the Leo and the number of positive posts sold me.

Now, I'll wait until it confirmed shipped and then I'll send my ECU to Guhl. :)

Install the Leo Vince exhaust, ride it a bit, then after the reflash, tell me how much difference you believe you get. I have the LV and I'm contemplating the reflash.
I would love to do that, unfortunately I'm going to do it all on the winter down time. I don't think once it's riding weather again I wont want to wait a week to send an ECU and get it back!
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Buddy says he thinks the Remus is a better exhaust, but does cost a good bit more. (He has both on bikes. See post above.)
Yeah, I saw that. Truth be told, I probably would have bought the Remus in carbon if I could have had a good answer for the "multi-fit" part # issue, but I didn't get one so to heck with it. It was $110 more or about a 20% premium. Not small potatoes, but for something that will probably be on for years not a big deal either. I hope I don't kick myself but by the positive comments I kind of doubt it. :)

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Re: to keep stock pipe or go slip-on ahhhh its killing me
« Reply #69 on: January 05, 2012, 05:47:30 pm »
Holy smokes. If anyone is considering buying a slip on, I can heartily recommend Pipe City.

http://www.pipecity.com/Search/CategorySearch.cfm/_1/Street/IP/2_6_0_0/_2/Kawasaki/_3/Concours%201400

Prices are very reasonable, free shipping, good selection and I already have a Fedex tracking number from them considering I ordered it yesterday afternoon.

Hopefully they won't be damaged or anything so I won't have to try to return anything, but so far their customer service is super prompt and friendly.