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Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« on: May 08, 2013, 04:07:20 pm »
I would like to know your opinion on which I should get and why.   :c017:

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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2013, 07:09:28 pm »
I looked at the top block and the canyon cages for a 2011.  The top block for the 2008-9 looks better than the 2010 and up.  Either top block looks better than the canyon cages.  There is just more bar exposed on the canyon cages.  Having said that, after seeing canyon cages installed they don't look bad, just more obvious.  Also, the cages are a no cut install, if that matters to you.

I think the canyon cages will offer better protection.  That's why I ordered the cages.  I'll let you know how difficult they were to install when they arrive.

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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2013, 07:19:37 pm »
Canyon Cages give you the option to put highway pegs on.  :great:

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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2013, 07:22:59 pm »
The fit and finish of the Top Block is excellent.  It looks like original equipment on the C-14.  There are two 1” holes to be drilled in the lower black fairing, so no cutting.  The holes can be easily plugged with a grommet if you ever removed the Top Blocks.  Once you have them on, I’m not sure you would take them off.  Don’t fear drilling the holes, it’s easy and nearly impossible to screw up.
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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2013, 07:51:01 pm »
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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2013, 10:38:15 pm »
One looks great and works great, the other just works great...  ;)
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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2013, 11:24:17 pm »
Yep...pretty much sums it up.  The Canyon bars will probably protect a bit more but they look hideous.  I went with Top Block.  Looks good and we've seen the pictures they do the job.

Nothing short of a giant metal ball cage around the entire bike is going to protect it fully in a moving crash so...Top Block.
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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2013, 11:11:15 am »
Greg,

I posted the same question because I dropped my bike and had extensive damage. Once I got it repaired, I didn't want the same thing to happen again. I purchased the "Top Block" product and installed it last night.

It took quite a while to install the left side because I had to read each step, but, the right side went on in about 15 minutes.

I'm not sure I made the right decision, but, I am adding the rear bag protection as well. They are out of stock until next week but I will order them today.  I think the combination of the front and rear protection will give me great confidence in cace the bike falls.

I've also used the 2" lowering links to drop the bike so my feet are flat on the ground. That alone gave me great confidence when I am not rolling. When rolling, every bike is easy to handle.

The only point that was well taken on my responses to my question was not being able to install forward begs on the Top Block style protection like you can on the canyon cages. The poster was dead on, but I had already installed the pegs that give me a few inches of forward extension while riding. I hope that will be enough for very long rides.

I like the bike more and more as I make these minor additions.

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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2013, 11:17:22 am »
Hey, I'd probably have the top blocks if Murph had them earlier...but really...the cages aren't bad looking at all if you paint match them.


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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2013, 11:37:23 am »
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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2013, 02:59:17 pm »
Hey, I'd probably have the top blocks if Murph had them earlier...but really...the cages aren't bad looking at all if you paint match them.




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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2013, 02:10:16 am »
Hey, I'd probably have the top blocks if Murph had them earlier...but really...the cages aren't bad looking at all if you paint match them.



Well, they certainly look better but they still stick out like a fat chick at playboy party.

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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2013, 03:27:08 am »
I really like the look of the Canyon Cage on my 2012 black.

Heaven forbid I should ever need them in a real low side, but one of our members did and they provided extraordinary protection. I'm not sure in a real low side slide the Top Block would do as well, though it might.

But we know the Canyon Cage will, for sure.
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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2013, 12:57:29 pm »


IMO the Top Blocks will protect the bike in a gentle zero speed tip-over/drop where the rider can slow the fall of the bike a bit. Anything more than that and the bike has a good chance of rocking, possibly damaging the bags and/or the mirrors. With the MCE Canyon Cages and their bag protectors installed the bike has much more protection and a much better chance of not being damaged in the same situation. Plus there have been reports of low speed low sides without damage, except for the CCs getting scuffed up of course. 

The Top Blocks look WAY better no doubt. Better looks or better protection, that's the choice you have.
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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2013, 02:03:52 pm »
I waiting on the arrival of the full GSG slider set (front axle, frame, and swing-arm).
I believe this will also prevent major damage in a gentle, low-speed drop - and I'll try to determine that fully following the installs.
The full set - including free shipping from Twisted Throttle - runs $367.
I'll post an update to this thread (with pictures) following installation (probably next week).
As for the original question - aesthetically, I like the top-block design.  Functionally though - I think the Canyon Cages *might* provide a bit more protection in a the aforementioned gentle, low-speed drop.
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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2013, 01:12:06 am »
Top Blocks, easy install.
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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2013, 06:02:45 pm »
I have the Top Blocks on my '10, but I've seen both Dalroo's and Necron99's and I think their Canyon Cages look
better in person than they do in photos. The new lower price for the Top Blocks vs. the added protection of the Canyon
Cages make it a tough choice if I was now just starting out.
The Top Blocks for the Gen II C14s really don't look that good, they need to be black if no other changes
are made. I tried to improve them, but I'm not sure I did. My lipstick idea is growing on me,
(I'm becoming more comfortable with it, and I don't stare at them whenever I go in the garage now..) but I think I hear giggling occasionally...? :s_laugh:

Regardless of Canyon Cages or Top Block, if you leave the rear bags on most of the time I highly recommend the MCE bag protectors.

The only point that was well taken on my responses to my question was not being able to install forward begs on the Top Block style protection like you can on the canyon cages.


I'm working on that. It may take me a while.  :(

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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2013, 11:43:30 pm »
The passenger grab rails on my 11 are silver - silver accent on the Top Blocks is fine - no change.
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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2013, 07:01:47 pm »
"I have the Top Blocks on my '10, but I've seen both Dalroo's and Necron99's and I think their Canyon Cages look
better in person than they do in photos."

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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2013, 01:02:29 am »
In the same boat. TopBlock or CC. Of course one looks better the other looks to protect better.

How about installation. Minus the hole in the TB install which option is easier to install?  Do both options need to be removed each time I do a coolant change? Do I need to always remove the slider before fairing removal on both?

Almost ordered the CC combo for $411 tonight but not sure if I could still store my MC up against the wall and still get the car next to it. Imagine I could just put the bags on and get an idea if it will work.  I usually don't run the side bags but only the top box for short rides and commuting. But the safety would be better with side bags because they have much more 3M material on them and my Hi Viz vest would be easier seen from behind with top box off. Lots of protection for a good price but then I pretty need to run the side bags 24/7 to hide the new ears on the back.

PS I considered the Project kit but looks like they bolt to the engine mounts which scares me and the GSG are nice and super easy but wonder if they would truly get in the way and would provide far less protection over TB and of course CC set.

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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2013, 08:46:51 am »
I don't think the Top Block looks better than a Canyon Cage, but that's just my opinion echoed by many folks.

I am fairly certain, though, based on the pictures of a C14 rider's low side slide, that the CC protects significantly better in an actual road slide (as opposed to a 0 mph  drop). Combined with the rear bag guards, I have complete confidence in the MCE set up keeping my plastics safe in a low speed road low side slide.

If you have to adjust parking your car slightly to accommodate the MCE CC/rear combo, I'd say its well worth the effort.

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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2013, 10:00:09 am »
In the same boat. TopBlock or CC. Of course one looks better the other looks to protect better.

How about installation. Minus the hole in the TB install which option is easier to install?  Do both options need to be removed each time I do a coolant change? Do I need to always remove the slider before fairing removal on both?

Almost ordered the CC combo for $411 tonight but not sure if I could still store my MC up against the wall and still get the car next to it. Imagine I could just put the bags on and get an idea if it will work.  I usually don't run the side bags but only the top box for short rides and commuting. But the safety would be better with side bags because they have much more 3M material on them and my Hi Viz vest would be easier seen from behind with top box off. Lots of protection for a good price but then I pretty need to run the side bags 24/7 to hide the new ears on the back.

PS I considered the Project kit but looks like they bolt to the engine mounts which scares me and the GSG are nice and super easy but wonder if they would truly get in the way and would provide far less protection over TB and of course CC set.

If you can fit your bike into that space without folding the mirrors up then you'd be able to fit it with the CCs installed.
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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2013, 10:15:42 am »
    I must be the different one. But IMO, the Top Block looks much better. Although the Canyon does look better than the bathroom bars, they are still kind of a gaudy addition  to a sleek looking bike. But again they are much more acceptable than the bathroom bars. So I would consider them if I were in the market.
   The canyon cages may be a good choice with the possibility of additional lighting or highway pegs or something. Of course if neither of those are an issue, and for pure aesthetics that look like they belong on the bike. The Top Blocks are (IMO), by far the nicer choice. I'm not saying on is better than the other in either protection or functionality, if you will. Just what I perceive as the choice that really looks good on the bike, rather than extra junk folks hang on their bike for function. (And I'm not saying the Canyons are junk, just an expression)

 But to be fair. the 08-09 top block bars do look a little nicer than the 2010+ blocks. But I'm not sure on the Canyons  between Gen I and Gen II.

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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2013, 03:42:15 pm »
I'm a bit biased but the Top Blocks are a great product. There's no denying that. They look great and perform as intended for no to very low speed drops. However, I don't think our Canyon Cages look bad necessarily. Also, I think the fact that our Canyon Cages do a bit better job of protecting when going faster than a few miles an hour, the option of adding lights and/or highway pegs, our excellent customer service, and the lower cost helps keep us in the running. All in all, both products are great and which guard you choose kinda depends on what you plan to do with them.

With that said, if anyone has any specific questions regarding the Canyon Cages, installation, etc. don't hesitate to ask here or you can always PM me, email me, or contact me over the phone at the office during normal business hours.

Oh, and to answer someones question about whether you have to remove both to do maintenance on the bike: I believe you'll always have to remove the Top Blocks for maintenance because they go through that lower cowling. However, I could be wrong on this. If I am, someone who has them is welcome to correct me. However, with a very simple modification, you can remove the fairings of the bike while leaving the Canyon Cages installed which is nice.

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Re: Top Block vs. Canyon Cage
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2013, 03:45:35 pm »
I'm a bit biased but the Top Blocks are a great product. There's no denying that. They look great and perform as intended for no to very low speed drops. However, I don't think our Canyon Cages look bad necessarily. Also, I think the fact that our Canyon Cages do a bit better job of protecting when going faster than a few miles an hour, the option of adding lights and/or highway pegs, our excellent customer service, and the lower cost helps keep us in the running. All in all, both products are great and which guard you choose kinda depends on what you plan to do with them.

With that said, if anyone has any specific questions regarding the Canyon Cages, installation, etc. don't hesitate to ask here or you can always PM me, email me, or contact me over the phone at the office during normal business hours.

Oh, and to answer someones question about whether you have to remove both to do maintenance on the bike: I believe you'll always have to remove the Top Blocks for maintenance because they go through that lower cowling. However, I could be wrong on this. If I am, someone who has them is welcome to correct me. However, with a very simple modification, you can remove the fairings of the bike while leaving the Canyon Cages installed which is nice.


I wouldn't argue with any of this post. Thanks for the input. Although as you said, kind of biased. But you seemed very fair in you thoughts.  :great: