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Tripping traffic lights ?
« on: June 08, 2012, 09:40:27 am »
I'm tired of waiting at stop lights because I have not tripped  the THING
Do magnets attached to the bottom of the bike work????
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2012, 10:10:03 am »
Id like one of those James Bond license plates that flip over so the red light cams can't get me when I finnally have to run the light after waiting . My bike trips most lights around here though.
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2012, 11:29:44 am »
Years ago, traffic actuated signals used to be triggered by a pressure plate across the lane at the signal. Those have pretty much become extinct and replaced with in the road loop detectors. Most recently, some areas are now using motion sensors using infrared, laser, or microwave technology.

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There are devices on the market that can be affixed to the motorcycle and allegedly are suppose to increase the ability of the motorcycle triggering a loop detector.  Reported results have varied using these devices. Do your own research.

If it is an intersection used often, try contacting the state or local DOT to submit a problem report and request the detector be assessed and adjusted.

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Move to one of the 10 or so states that have enacted red-light laws for motorcycle allowing then to treat the red as flashing read after waiting for a predetermined amount of time based of each state's law.
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2012, 11:49:21 am »
I'm tired of waiting at stop lights because I have not tripped  the THING
Do magnets attached to the bottom of the bike work????
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I have found that they do not. I even had it attached to the swingarm and would move the swingarm when at the offending light, no change I could see.

I have been successful 1 out of 5 times of getting with the local DOT and assist in calibration of a light, the other times,  problematic intersections were brought to their attention and a couple saw an improvement.

Reference the redlight laws, local communities can also have their own ordinance, where it may not be a state law yet. Might be worth looking into.
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2012, 12:02:05 pm »
down here in GA, on most intersections you can see 3 lines.  Left, center and right.  I stop on the center, and it trips them all the time.  If the intersection doesn't have the visible lines, I still go for the middle, and hope

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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2012, 12:50:07 pm »
I've heard that dropping the side-stand so it contacts the cut in the pavment where the wire is will trigger the light.
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2012, 02:18:56 pm »
Around the Twin Cities in Minnesota my C-14 will not trip some of the sensored signals. Some lights here do not default to a time limit at night (it will stay red until it senses a car) and have had to run the light.

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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2012, 04:46:32 pm »
To turn on my street I NEVER trip the THING , it is under a layer of asphalt , I don't even know where it is?????????????
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2012, 01:13:03 pm »
My 09 trips most of the lights. There is 1 at the first intersection from my house that it never trips. IF I remember I'll go down the other street. I have noticed that some times lowering the side stand will help. I have read in several reports that the magnets that attach to the bottom of the bikes are just snake oil.
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2012, 01:30:56 pm »
Just had to do the research after seeing posting that there were states that enacted motorcycle traffic light laws. So here are the states according to USA Today.
In May, South Carolina became the seventh state to give motorcyclists license to proceed with caution after stopping when the device that causes the light to change from red to green doesn't activate, according to Imre Szauter, government affairs manager for the American Motorcyclist Association.

North Carolina passed a similar law in 2007. Wisconsin (2006), Idaho (2006) Arkansas (2005), Tennessee (2003) and Minnesota (2002), all have passed laws the past six years, Szauter said. Bills have been introduced for the same purpose in Georgia, Missouri and Oklahoma, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures and the legislative websites for those states
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2012, 12:52:07 pm »
Virginia is another state that has a law that you may proceed as if stopped at a stop sign if you don't get a green after so long a period. I printed a copy of the ordnance and keep it in my bag in case a LEO calls me on it.

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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2012, 01:42:33 pm »
I would think that all states would have something in their vehicle code that addresses the problem of a traffic light not changing.
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2012, 06:21:50 pm »
New Jersey addressed the problem,  they installed red light cameras so you can be SURE you get the ticket if you go through after it doesn't trigger the light
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2012, 07:57:39 pm »
Around the Twin Cities in Minnesota my C-14 will not trip some of the sensored signals. Some lights here do not default to a time limit at night (it will stay red until it senses a car) and have had to run the light.

i have one by my house that i run after a cycle or two. i'm going to tell them u said we can. lol  :beerchug:

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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2012, 12:49:04 pm »
I run one red light on my way to work every morning because my bike won't set it off. About a month ago I actually had a LEO behind me at the same light and he honked at me to run it. What works sometimes is flashing your high beams a couple times when approaching the difficult light. Some ambulances actually have a strobe light on top to do the same thing. I also doubt a LEO would ever right you up for running it if you used common sense. I can't imagine a LEO writing you up after he watched you sit at a light that didn't change.
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2012, 01:29:22 pm »
What works sometimes is flashing your high beams a couple times when approaching the difficult light. Some ambulances actually have a strobe light on top to do the same
That will NOT work. I live in a gated community we have strobe light detectors at both gates so the police, fire trucks and ambulances can enter. They detect a certain pattern of the strobe so just flashing your headlight won't work.
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2012, 07:41:39 pm »
What works sometimes is flashing your high beams a couple times when approaching the difficult light. Some ambulances actually have a strobe light on top to do the same
That will NOT work. I live in a gated community we have strobe light detectors at both gates so the police, fire trucks and ambulances can enter. They detect a certain pattern of the strobe so just flashing your headlight won't work.

Correct. That is typical to a system like Opticom or others. They use the flashing strobe or infrared technology. It's called Intersection Preemption. The E-Vehicle has an emitter and the intersection has the receiver. The emitter flashes a pulse signal at a certain frequency that the receiver recognizes.

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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2012, 01:17:44 pm »
Virginia is another state that has a law that you may proceed as if stopped at a stop sign if you don't get a green after so long a period. I printed a copy of the ordnance and keep it in my bag in case a LEO calls me on it.

May i get a copy of that? what part of VA you from? I'm in Richmond (Wyndam)
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2012, 01:45:41 pm »
I want to talk to the Police Officer that writes me up after waiting through a couple sequences at a traffic light. If he is hiding and waiting for someone to run it knowing it wont set off the trigger. Has anyone ever gotten a ticket for this? What did the Police Officer say when you asked him what you were supposed to do? It would never hold up in court unless you have a terrible record. 
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2012, 03:18:55 pm »
I wonder if the AMA  would get involved trying to get these lights fixed if they were contacted by a member? Which I am not.
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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2012, 03:52:02 pm »
Me + my fat a** trip them all...

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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2012, 11:53:45 pm »
I've heard that dropping the side-stand so it contacts the cut in the pavment where the wire is will trigger the light.

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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2012, 06:22:01 am »
I had this problem on my SV650, If there is a car behind me waiting i will pull forward and motion for them to come closer to trip the signal. If im alone i will wait until it skips me the second time then treat it as a stop sign. I have done this with LEO at the intersection and never gotten pulled over for it.

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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2012, 01:01:47 pm »
If a light doesn't trip for me after two cycles, I treat it as a "broken" light, which means to treat it like a 4-way at least in Oregon.

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Re: Tripping traffic lights ?
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2012, 03:43:14 pm »
I took over 1000 "pounds" of earth magnets and put them directly on a loop sensor and it did not trip, so I don't believe that the units that they sell for this purpose are worth the price of postage.

I live in Texas and we have a state law that says that these signals are supposed to be sensitive enough to notice a bicycle.  I've called four municipalities to report lights that were not sensitive enough to "see" my bike.  All four were done within 3 days.  I was really impressed.  One of them, I left work that same day and the guy was in the box making adjustments, and he freaking waved to me like he must have been the guy I talked to, and gave me the thumbs-up as I approached the light, and VIOLA it changed.  LOL  That was quite awesome.