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Offline BJ_CT

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Child boards for weapons and politics
« on: November 08, 2012, 12:04:45 am »
I would like to suggest the addition of child boards for weapons and politics.  If the mods have collectively  decided that discussions of these two subjects will be allowed, rather than take the grief and abuse that Capt'n Bob takes for locking threads, then the separate boards will allow folks to isolate them out of or into their regular feeds.  Thanks.

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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2012, 02:39:57 am »
Hell NO! There are lots of other sandboxes for those topics...

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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2012, 02:50:18 am »
I agree with Dave, although maybe not as strongly worded (call me wimpy).
The recent thread on carry guns (in which I participated) was a nice rabbit trail, but it should remain the exception rather than the rule.
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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2012, 05:41:04 am »
i'm with the last two repliers...F--k politics, this is for bikes and the people that enjoy them!  :motonoises:
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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2012, 05:58:43 am »
 I'm not in favor.
 It tends to bleed over.
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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2012, 01:32:35 pm »
Gun owning polital wonk that I am, I come here to talk motorcycles and rides. Let's keep it simple. Just my .02.......
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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2012, 02:41:39 pm »
Agreed....this is a place we can escape all that political nonsense . Yes we have the choice of not responding to certain posts but sometimes we can't help but comment and it can breed hostility among us . Save it for campfire discussions....we can throw stuff at each other there  :rotflmao:
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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2012, 03:31:28 pm »
From what I remember from board meetings the directors of COG in general feel the same way.  There are better places to talk about that stuff. 
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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2012, 04:42:15 pm »
Agreed....this is a place we can escape all that political nonsense . Yes we have the choice of not responding to certain posts but sometimes we can't help but comment and it can breed hostility among us . Save it for campfire discussions....we can throw stuff at each other there  :rotflmao:

Haven't made it to a rally yet, but sounds like I should keep the helmet on

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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2012, 04:59:16 pm »
Agreed....this is a place we can escape all that political nonsense . Yes we have the choice of not responding to certain posts but sometimes we can't help but comment and it can breed hostility among us . Save it for campfire discussions....we can throw stuff at each other there  :rotflmao:

Haven't made it to a rally yet, but sounds like I should keep the helmet on

Not to worry... it's usually soft stuff.


As far as my $0.02 on the matter...   Less is more. As others have said, there are other forums and venues to solicit a barrage of "those" discussions.  The occasional gun or political topic may be deemed acceptable, but in general people are very polarized on these subjects and the thread can quickly turn in the wrong direction.

As a side note for the times things do make a wrong turn...  Please cut the mods some slack. The forum mods perform a much needed and a typically thankless task.  Some are a bit too quick to ridicule or mock mod handling of club or forum guidelines. Let's remember they are volunteers. On the other side of the coin, mods need to be thick skinned and not take things personal or bring personal feelings into moderation, as well as maintain a perspective on their role and remember the what the meaning of "moderator" is. 

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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2012, 06:20:46 pm »
Perhaps I worded the OP incorrectly.  I agree with all the posters above.  I do not want to see posts or threads about either politics or weapons on this forum.  There's enough vitriol floating around when we talk about oil or KiPass to last a good long time.  Bob takes an unfair boatload of crap everytime he locks down a thread, even if he just suggests one might get locked down if it gets out of hand, and that offends me.

I do not want to see dark clouds gather and spoil an otherwise great forum.  Separate boards would simply get the mods out of the firing line, since they don't deserve to be flamed, and allow me to remove them from what I can see on the forum, since I have no use for them here.  I begrudgingly agree that adding said child boards would probably only add to the problem and is not a great solution to my issue.  I guess the logical alternative is to simply flag the offending posts to the mods when I see them.  KISS.



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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2012, 07:54:26 pm »
I'm all for the separation of guns and politics... but if we get to talkin' religion......   >:D



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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2012, 08:08:12 pm »
So if I understand you correctly, you are saying synthetic oil is better?

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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2012, 08:17:17 pm »
Just a thought Bruce but you might want to mention that very thing in those specific threads when they come around. I don't mean to suggest we all take sides and flame away, but you are a pretty moderate guy and a reasonable, thoughtful opinion is always a worthwhile I think.

More boards won't solve some anger issues anyway because the last one seemed to be generated by a moderator moving a thread to a place it was actually supposed to be in the first place. In the end, sooner or later someone is going to be unhappy with everything it seems so alls the moderators can do is to keep moderating to the best of their ability and if a specific issue generates a lot (more than the usual amount) of rebuttal or resistance then others will come along to oversee what is going on in that specific thread. At least that is the way I think it is supposed to work on a moderated board.

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Perhaps I worded the OP incorrectly.  I agree with all the posters above.  I do not want to see posts or threads about either politics or weapons on this forum.  There's enough vitriol floating around when we talk about oil or KiPass to last a good long time.  Bob takes an unfair boatload of crap everytime he locks down a thread, even if he just suggests one might get locked down if it gets out of hand, and that offends me.

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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2012, 09:05:45 pm »
So if I understand you correctly, you are saying synthetic oil is better?

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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2012, 10:01:13 pm »
Personally I think Politics should be left out. There is little upside and it may keep people from attending events due to arguments that inevitably start in those threads. I say leave the politics at the curb. Gun talk if monitored should be fine. Anyone that actually gets mad at a Mod for shutting down a thread is way too serious. Too many things get taken out of context when talking about politics. Humor a lot of times is missed and taken personally. 
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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2012, 09:44:01 pm »

As far as my $0.02 on the matter...   Less is more. As others have said, there are other forums and venues to solicit a barrage of "those" discussions.  The occasional gun or political topic may be deemed acceptable, but in general people are very polarized on these subjects and the thread can quickly turn in the wrong direction.

As a side note for the times things do make a wrong turn...  Please cut the mods some slack. The forum mods perform a much needed and a typically thankless task.  Some are a bit too quick to ridicule or mock mod handling of club or forum guidelines. Let's remember they are volunteers. On the other side of the coin, mods need to be thick skinned and not take things personal or bring personal feelings into moderation, as well as maintain a perspective on their role and remember the what the meaning of "moderator" is.


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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2012, 02:13:35 am »
Wait a minute.... I got this right??  People actually agree with me?
I must be losing my touch...

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Re: Child boards for weapons and politics
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2012, 11:54:25 pm »
Firearms are near and dear to me. I have very strong pro feelings about 2A. I have shot service rifle competitively since about 1987 and still do. This has slowed down some since 2 years ago I buggered up a shoulder on some ice. So I shoot 22 pistol now and coach service rifle to a very select few. I have a strong opinion on what works and what doesn't work.

I like 1911's and Glocks. Right there would be the cause of locked threads. 

While there could be some nice discussion on how to carry on a motorcycle, I believe this particular forum is not the place. I agree there are better forums to discuss firearms and few places to discuss politics. Pictures of rifles and pistols are nice but not why I'm here.  I love this forum for the over all good great information passed along about the Concours. I have never met a fellow cogger I didn't like.  Now if we just could only get Steve in Fla on a C14. Just my 2 pesos. TimR
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