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Concours 14 Discussion (C14 / ZG1400 / 1400GTR) => Concours 14 / ZG1400 General Chat and Tech => Topic started by: arieux on January 12, 2018, 08:58:50 pm

Title: Engine not starting
Post by: arieux on January 12, 2018, 08:58:50 pm
I tried to start my c14 2012 this morning and it would not and sounded like it was out of gas but the tank is almost full.


This afternoon, i tried again:  the engine does not even try to start this time and i hear knocking in the head.

I am not getting any error message.


The engine was working fine after i changed the oil in December and i have not used it since because it is winter with a lot of snow and very cold.


If someone has an idea  i would appreciate.


Regards.
Title: Re: Engine not starting
Post by: gPink on January 12, 2018, 09:14:30 pm
Did you ever replace the battery and abrasively clean all the ground connections?
Title: Re: Engine not starting
Post by: Diz on January 13, 2018, 10:00:11 am
A bit more info might be helpful. Is the starter running when you hit ignition button? You say it sounded as if it were out of gas; does this mean the engine was turning over, but no sounds of ignition?
Title: Re: Engine not starting
Post by: seagiant1 on January 13, 2018, 11:25:00 am
Hi,
      Check the "KILL" switch!

Don't ask me how I know this!

Kids love to play with things! ;D
Title: Re: Engine not starting
Post by: gpd323 on January 13, 2018, 12:46:03 pm
I call dead battery lacking any additional info.
Title: Re: Engine not starting
Post by: jwh20 on January 13, 2018, 05:41:33 pm
The most common problem with the C14 not starting is with the electrical system, specifically the battery (-) to frame connection and the battery itself.  Start, as already noted, with the frame connection.  This is the #1 trouble spot.  You get corrosion built up and it prevents a good electrical connection.  The corrosion is Aluminum Oxide which looks exactly like Aluminum so you cannot see it but it is a good INSULATOR.  Remove the connection, clean the frame connection point with abrasive, put a tiny bit of dielectric grease (or just plain axle grease if that's all you have), and re-install the connection.  If that doesn't solve the problem, then pull the battery and take it to a shop and have it load tested.  A voltmeter check WILL NOT suffice here.  Many bad batteries show good voltage but will not produce enough power to start the bike.  Only a load test will show.

If both of these look good, then it's more complicated.  Report back and I'm sure there will be more advice...
Title: Re: Engine not starting
Post by: TimR on January 13, 2018, 07:06:40 pm
When you tried to start, did the motor turn over sluggishly or with vigor?

During the non riding season, I put a Battery tender on about every week and a half to keep the battery healthy. I also put a tender on the 900 to top off it's battery. When the tender goes to the float mode I pull it off and move on. During the riding weather I don't worry about it because the bikes get ridden often enough to keep the batteries up.

I have the ability to heat the garage but only heat it when necessary so the bikes have been sitting in a very cold garage. It cost a lot to just heat the house. 

I lost the battery on the 09 in 2010 because I went too long without giving it a charge during the winter. Kawasaki replaced the battery under warranty.
Title: Re: Engine not starting
Post by: JTX on January 13, 2018, 08:21:30 pm
Theres not enough info known to make a suggestion...
Title: Re: Engine not starting
Post by: walter on January 13, 2018, 08:24:35 pm
Hi,
      Check the "KILL" switch!

Don't ask me how I know this!

Kids love to play with things! ;D

 :iagree: