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Re: Tapatalk
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2017, 07:36:56 pm »
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Re: Tapatalk
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2017, 09:23:48 pm »
I'll chime in again, as I missed the poll, and this is getting to be a real p.I.t.a. with excuses, and software,.combined with the fact that prolly 90% of the people today, especially us that ride, use a smart phone as a camera...

Photobucket totally screwed the pooch on their hosting and posting to third parties.... TT is a seamless, and easy item to utilize, and photo storage and sharing is what it was designed for...

Virtually. No person on Adventure Riders when on road, uses anything but, except for SmugMug, which the people that run ADV also run... they are a good "long term online storage" but they do charge... TT is free to users.

Someone needs to get in touch and spend a half hour working out the particulars, to make this usable for COG people on the road..
All the money COG has spent, keeping this Simple machine pockets paid, with all the issues we have been seeing about its "working effectivity" this pastyear,.has me asking if its really the "best for the buck" anymore... I think a few folks would say no.. having seen the laments with making registrations, and payments for stuff recently...

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Re: Tapatalk
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2017, 09:28:06 pm »
 SMF is free, I'd say we got our money out of it.  We don't and to the best of my knowledge have never paid them. The problem isn't with SMF. There is a Tapatalk plugin for SMF. The problem is that we don't authenticate off of SMF, we authenticate off of cogmos/memberize.
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Re: Tapatalk
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2017, 03:40:44 pm »
Then we should try to figure it out.  I agree TT is the way to go.
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Re: Tapatalk
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2017, 02:04:32 pm »
I put quite a bit of time into trying to make this happen before DoT took over.

We need someone with strong PHP (code the forum runs on) skills and an intimate knowledge of SMF, at least the authentication. The 'bridge' from SMF to Memberize was written by someone who was one of the developers at SMF, but he is no longer interested in helping. I think the only way Tapatalk is going to happen is to advertise a paid gig on the SMF forum, as I have reached out to several whom I thought qualified and none were interested. But this is of course not without risk, of being scammed, hacked, or ending up with insecure code.

My B/S detector works pretty well, but I am not an IT professional, and my PHP skills are minimal, so I lacked confidence to proceed, and the issue was dropped.

I also floated the idea of removing the bridge, which would require separate logins to the forum and to Memberize, but might allow Tapatalk to install. Not a good solution at all, and was rightly shot down. At the time though, fewer people used smartphones, and not many had even heard of Tapatalk.

To put the issue in layman's terms, to install a mod in SMF, files need to be modified. This is done automatically through a set of instructions that basically looks for certain code lines in certain files, and can either replace those lines, or add code before or after. If those lines of code have already been changed, then the mod cannot find them and the mod install fails.

I don't know how big of a job it would be but I don't think it would get done in a half hour.


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Re: Tapatalk
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2017, 06:23:07 pm »
I guess the end result, as it has been so far, is until someone contacts TT directly, discuses the software issues WITH THEM, and asks THEM for a solution and assistance in "making it work"... nothing will transpire.

They are not a small hosting company by any means, they have people there that can, and do, work out solutions for safe migration... but again, until they are asked to provide a solution.... its just a repitition of "it won't work" on this end we hear.

It seems as the grouping of software, COGMOS and the forums SMF, are really just a "all the eggs in one basket" thing at this point, and if niether is willing, or no longer has "the people that know how to do it" working for them, then they as providers are limiting the extent of the progress and original useage of their products..
This authentication thing still has me a bit confused, as "is it really needed for the use of the forum?" Or just done to supposedly tie in the forum and COGMOS sites for secure purchases and transactions? If so, its kinda moot, having to login to a forum and also login to COGMOS individually shouldn't be that much of a deterrent... I mean its kinda like saying "I leave the door to my house wide open, because I get tired of opening it to come in the house..."
Also, it seems as if every time "maintainence" has been performed on either site, it required re-logging in to BOTH sites initially, to use either.
I've had to do this a dozen times since the sites were created, no big deal...

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Re: Tapatalk
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2017, 07:55:32 pm »
tapatalk doesn't really have the inclination to help us. when I talked to them last year they just pointed me to the file that was being used for their authentication and said effectively "have fun"

the reason the forum is tied to the membership system is so that there is only one account with one password.
the reason you need to re-login from time to time is that I reset the forum cookie, which kicks all logged in sessions.
I do this from time to time to make sure every only people with active accounts are logging in.

Also, there is currently an active project to move off of Memberize, so it wouldn't make any sense spend any time trying to get TT to bounce it's SMF auth off of Memberize.

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