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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2013, 06:13:19 pm »


Personally, I can't stand walmart so I don't go there.

Then don't bitch when you pay 2 bucks more per quart for the same thing.

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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2013, 06:16:58 pm »
Personally, I don't agree with Wal-marts practices behind the counter. I Have had dealings with them from the supply and distribution side and I refuse to purchase from them, unless it is the only thing available. I don't bitch about paying a bit more somewhere else though.
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2013, 06:23:54 pm »
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2013, 07:50:55 pm »
T6, if I remember correctly, doesn't fare very well in used oil analysis results that I have seen. The Rotella 15W40 is probably a better choice, though it isn't synthetic.

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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2013, 11:08:53 pm »
I have also been using Rotella 15W40. I used it in my Wee Strom and now in the C14.  I did how ever make the decision to move up to a Semi-synthetic so I got a gift card for my birthday and two jugs(8 litres total) of this http://www.motul.com/ca/en-US/products/32?f%5Bengine_type%5D=26&f%5Brange%5D=21  and two K&N filters came to just over a $100.00  I fiqured with how hot it can get under all that plastic why not go with 10W50.
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2013, 11:36:37 pm »
T6, if I remember correctly, doesn't fare very well in used oil analysis results that I have seen. The Rotella 15W40 is probably a better choice, though it isn't synthetic.
That is very interesting, a lot of guys swear by that oil. Remember where you saw that?

I run Texas Tea synth 10w40 myself. Sometimes you can score it for surprisingly cheap on Amazon w/free shipping.

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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2013, 11:47:20 pm »
T6, if I remember correctly, doesn't fare very well in used oil analysis results that I have seen. The Rotella 15W40 is probably a better choice, though it isn't synthetic.

That is very interesting, a lot of guys swear by that oil. Remember where you saw that?

I run Texas Tea synth 10w40 myself. Sometimes you can score it for surprisingly cheap on Amazon w/free shipping.



http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php

You can search the Motorcycle Used Oil Analysis area and find some UOAs. I was doing some research about what to run in my bike. I think I settled on Mobil 1 15W-50.

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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2013, 12:46:08 am »
I like mobile1 synthetic also. I would much rather pay a little extra for it than run diesel oil in my motorcycle
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2013, 12:47:56 am »
I like mobile1 synthetic also. I would much rather pay a little extra for it than run diesel oil in my motorcycle

I ran Rotella 15W-40 in my 1150RT. A lot of BMW guys swear by it.

I also ran the T6 5W-40 in my WRX. Subarus love the T6.
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2013, 12:52:06 am »
I know a lot of people run it and like it I'm not sure if its for the performance or the price. I think it's fine in cars but I will stay with motorcycle oil in my bike to each there own
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2013, 12:58:05 am »
I have run Rotella  T6 in 6 different bikes and I must know 50 other people who do as well. Bikes shift smooth.
I doubt you will ever have a oil related problem using ANY major brand. BTW the T6 is JA rated.
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2013, 01:09:29 am »
The rap on the 5W40 T6 is that it shears pretty quickly in bikes with a shared sump.

There are plenty of motorcycle used oil analysis posted on that site for the T6, for all sots of bikes. Some look great, others not so much.

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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2013, 01:47:42 am »


Personally, I can't stand walmart so I don't go there.

Then don't bitch when you pay 2 bucks more per quart for the same thing.

Did I bitch about paying $2 bucks more for the same thing?  Nope I didn't.  I was just surprised how much the proper spec oil was priced at.

I'll go across the street and pay $10 more total for an oil change vs. battling the walmart idiots. 

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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2013, 01:35:37 pm »
I am surprised at folks using Rotella in a motorcycle. This stuff is non-synthetic formulated for diesel engines, to soak up sulfur, not for high revving motorcycles.

Oh well, the world is a strange place. I use the finest synthetic that meets the manufacturers specs I know of which makes the tranny shift very smoothly.
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2013, 02:00:44 pm »
I meant to mention that if you want to use diesel oil, the Chevron Delo 400 may be a better bet than Rotella. I use this in my marine diesel and it keeps those tremendous low speed bearing loads under control.
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2013, 03:30:12 pm »
I am surprised at folks using Rotella in a motorcycle. This stuff is non-synthetic formulated for diesel engines, to soak up sulfur, not for high revving motorcycles.

Oh well, the world is a strange place. I use the finest synthetic that meets the manufacturers specs I know of which makes the tranny shift very smoothly.

Funny last time I checked Rotella T6 is FULL synthetic MA/JA certified.
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2013, 04:44:52 pm »
I understand if some of you guys live in Phoenix or Vegas and ride day-in & day-out in those elevated temperatures, but for everyone else out there... why would you choose to run any viscosity oil other than 10w-40 which is recommended in the manual? :017:
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2013, 10:52:39 pm »
Exactly,oil is the life blood of your engine run the best you can get. It's cheap insurance
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2013, 10:56:52 pm »
The manual suggests a wide range of viscosities. If you're operating above zero degrees, just about anything shown in the little chart in the manual is fine.

Just because the oil bottle has a picture of a motorcycle on it doesn't make is superior oil. I'd rather see an analysis of the used oil in a bike like mine as actual evidence of how it performs.

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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2013, 11:34:05 pm »
You're right Spackler, but there is no 5w or 15w something listed in the manual- The chart does show varying viscosities, but base recommendation is 10w-40.
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2013, 12:09:12 am »
If 10W-40 is ok, and 20W-50 is ok, 15W-40 or 50 is fine too.

I personally wouldn't run the Rotella 5W-40 in my bike, but that's just due to the reports that others have shared that show it shearing very quickly in shared sump bikes.

I'd be willing to bet that if you changed it every 3000 miles, any motor oil in the proper viscosity would be fine and you'd never have an oil related issue.

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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2013, 12:57:20 am »
If 10W-40 is ok, and 20W-50 is ok, 15W-40 or 50 is fine too.

I personally wouldn't run the Rotella 5W-40 in my bike, but that's just due to the reports that others have shared that show it shearing very quickly in shared sump bikes.

I'd be willing to bet that if you changed it every 3000 miles, any motor oil in the proper viscosity would be fine and you'd never have an oil related issue.
I concur with all of that... especially the last sentence. :beerchug: I'm just trying to find out what benefits people have perceived and/or documented that would justify changing their C14's oil viscosity from (factory recommended)10w-40.? Maybe their operating conditions are just that severe? ::) :017:
Even without all of the "shared knowledge", I don't know why anyone would choose to run a 5w- oil when the chart in the manual ranges from 10w-30 to 20w-50.? Guess we're all just different, and that's what makes it all interesting-
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2013, 01:30:11 am »
The only way I would consider running 5w anything in a bike is maybe for ice racing in the dakotas in Jan-Feb when it is -20 outside.
And BTW there is no freaking way I would be out there on a bike on the ice in that cold a temp!!!
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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2013, 01:40:00 am »
The only way I would consider running 5w anything in a bike is maybe for ice racing in the dakotas in Jan-Feb when it is -20 outside.
And BTW there is no freaking way I would be out there on a bike on the ice in that cold a temp!!!
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EXACTLY!!!
And unless you are one of the <1% that I mentioned earlier(consistently ride in sweltering 104deg.+ heat) why would you go to a 50weight oil?

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Re: $11 bucks a quart of oil! Damn!
« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2013, 02:04:50 am »
The only way I would consider running 5w anything in a bike is maybe for ice racing in the dakotas in Jan-Feb when it is -20 outside.
And BTW there is no freaking way I would be out there on a bike on the ice in that cold a temp!!!
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EXACTLY!!!
And unless you are one of the <1% that I mentioned earlier(consistently ride in sweltering 104deg.+ heat) why would you go to a 50weight oil?
I guess they think their fuel mileage is unacceptably high. Using heavy oil will definitely help them achieve lower numbers!
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