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Title: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: MIDNIGHT RIDER on June 24, 2013, 06:13:19 pm
On the way to work this morning the transponder low battery light came on.  My 2011 is only 1 1/2 years old.  Is that all they last?  However, easy fix with a screwdriver and $4.00 battery.  It was nice to have a warning pop up rather than have the fob stop working without any warning.
Sonny

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Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: 4Bikes on June 24, 2013, 06:51:36 pm
I also got about 1 1/2 years out of my 2011. I was ready for it and it took less than 2 minutes to swap out the battery and get back on the road.
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: Egodriver71 on June 24, 2013, 06:55:27 pm
I got this last week.

Did the MicroSoft reboot and haven't seen it since.

If I start seeing it more than once after the reboot, I'll replace the battery.
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: Cold Streak on June 24, 2013, 07:09:25 pm
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Did the MicroSoft reboot and haven't seen it since.

 ???  What's that?
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: Egodriver71 on June 24, 2013, 07:13:11 pm
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Did the MicroSoft reboot and haven't seen it since.

 ???  What's that?

Turned the bike off and turned it back on.
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: Cold Streak on June 24, 2013, 07:26:20 pm
Duh?   ::)  Must be Monday.
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: Egodriver71 on June 24, 2013, 07:46:23 pm
Duh?   ::)  Must be Monday.

 :beerchug:
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: BDF on June 25, 2013, 12:58:09 am
We have no way of knowing how old the fob or the battery inside it is when we buy the bike. It might be a fairly old battery.

Not sure how long they last but I have only changed three batteries in two fobs in six years- and one of them was killed by an errant glass of wine....

Brian

On the way to work this morning the transponder low battery light came on.  My 2011 is only 1 1/2 years old.  Is that all they last?  However, easy fix with a screwdriver and $4.00 battery.  It was nice to have a warning pop up rather than have the fob stop working without any warning.
Sonny

oops, posted in wrong group
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: shezonit on June 25, 2013, 05:09:51 am
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Did the MicroSoft reboot and haven't seen it since.

 ???  What's that?

Turned the bike off and turned it back on.
:))
That cracked me up.
Former Windows user, now recovered and using MacBook trouble free for over 5 years.
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: Gigantor on June 25, 2013, 05:15:22 am
The issue I've had with my transponder is, I turn on the bike ride a couple of miles then I get the "NO TRANSPONDER" error.  But it goes away soon after.  Tried replacing battery but still happens.  I wear my fob around my neck, do I need to keep it in my pocket?
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: BDF on June 25, 2013, 02:57:03 pm
Well, Alex, with the fob in front of you and the receiver behind and under you, there is a....er.....uhm..... LOT of material for those radio waves to penetrate.  ;)  A pants pocket would bring the fob closer to the transceiver that it 'chats' with.

KiPass fobs have a pretty weak signal to begin with- obviously adequate but certainly not an over- abundance. With my fob in my pocket, if I am standing in front of the bike and reach around the windshield to depress the key, the system just does not see the fob. I have to walk around to the side of the bike. So while wearing the fob around your neck is certainly well w/in the range of the fob, it is also subject to whatever metal you are wearing and metal is very difficult to transmit through. Belt buckles, change, metal zippers, etc. will all degrade the signal.

Brian

The issue I've had with my transponder is, I turn on the bike ride a couple of miles then I get the "NO TRANSPONDER" error.  But it goes away soon after.  Tried replacing battery but still happens.  I wear my fob around my neck, do I need to keep it in my pocket?
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: shezonit on July 08, 2013, 05:36:36 am
I received my bike with 2 fobs. HOW do you get them on a lanyard or such to be able to keep track of them? I am afraid to ride without both in case I see the dreaded "low battery" signal. Altho I just replaced BOTH batteries with fresh, just in case.
As for a lanyard, there is a TINY place that looks like you might be able to run some fishing line through it....
So-- those with fobs around necks.... what did you use???  I've always kept bike keys on a lanyard, as I once had a naked key fall into the fairing of a GoldWing...... never to be found again.   I have a spare key hidden on all my vehicles, so I was able to get home, but that is when I started using a lanyard. This KIPASS system is a bit intimidating re losing a fob..... 
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: Flat-spot on July 08, 2013, 06:08:17 am
Shezonit,  your'e right, it's a TINY spot to thread through. I used a heavy grade braided fly fishing line. It's tough stuff, I think it's Kevlar. Still had to use a tiny pointed tool to push it through. Just big enough loop to put my head through but ended up loop locking it on my belt and dropping it in pants pocket. Easier access to fob key for fueling/luggage. You don't have to carry both fobs. If the battery goes completely dead, take the fob key out and hold that empty spot against the rectangular protrusion in front of
stove knob/dash key. I think this last ditch method is covered in owners manual. :great:
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: JS_racer on July 08, 2013, 10:08:20 am
.......... I am afraid to ride without both in case I see the dreaded "low battery" signal. Altho I just replaced BOTH batteries with fresh, just in case. ............
 

0 need to always carry both for fear of the battery. loss of 1, possibly. if the battery goes bad, there is a way to still use the fob. (i usually have both on a long trip, not a day trip)
also the low battery i wouldn't consider dreaded.
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: Egodriver71 on July 08, 2013, 11:07:00 am
I am afraid to ride without both in case I see the dreaded "low battery" signal. Altho I just replaced BOTH batteries with fresh, just in case.

If the battery truly fails, you take the key out of the FOB and place the slot of the FOB onto the raised portion above your 'key' or stove knob.

It then works as a passive transponder.


I love how so many people freak over losing this FOB thing.  Drop it in your riding jacket pocket and BAM, there it is EVERYTIME you're ready to ride!!! :motonoises:
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: jonathan on July 08, 2013, 01:57:18 pm
I ran a small zip tie through the slot in the fob, but it just stays in the inside pocket of my riding jacket.
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: TimR on July 08, 2013, 06:25:58 pm
Just because your battery in your fob dies do not mean the Fob is not useable. Removed the key and place it on the Kipass notch or bump. It's covered in the owners manual. As a owner of a 09, I won't take both fobs on a long trip. If I loose one the wife knows where the other is stored so she can over night it to me. I'll be waiting part of the time in the bar of course........
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: shezonit on July 11, 2013, 05:39:24 am
I am afraid to ride without both in case I see the dreaded "low battery" signal. Altho I just replaced BOTH batteries with fresh, just in case.

"If the battery truly fails, you take the key out of the FOB and place the slot of the FOB onto the raised portion above your 'key' or stove knob.

It then works as a passive transponder."

Yeah, guys, I actually DID read how you can override the dead battery thing. Probably the first bike I ever actually read the owners manual.... :-p


"I love how so many people freak over losing this FOB thing.  Drop it in your riding jacket pocket and BAM, there it is EVERYTIME you're ready to ride!!!"

Well sure, IF ya only have one jacket .....  Here  in Montana we need multiple jackets to cover various weather conditions, PLUS I'm female so I have a couple different colors, too. I don't want to have to search jacket pockets, I want it on a string.
As I said, I want a key lanyard because the hand can slip ....I am often on extended trips and want to know I can start the bike.
 I never did find the key i dropped in the GoldWing  fairing.
So I'll try some fishing line.
Title: Re: "Transponder low battery"
Post by: Egodriver71 on July 11, 2013, 11:16:53 am
I am afraid to ride without both in case I see the dreaded "low battery" signal. Altho I just replaced BOTH batteries with fresh, just in case.

"If the battery truly fails, you take the key out of the FOB and place the slot of the FOB onto the raised portion above your 'key' or stove knob.

It then works as a passive transponder."

Yeah, guys, I actually DID read how you can override the dead battery thing. Probably the first bike I ever actually read the owners manual.... :-p


"I love how so many people freak over losing this FOB thing.  Drop it in your riding jacket pocket and BAM, there it is EVERYTIME you're ready to ride!!!"

Well sure, IF ya only have one jacket .....  Here  in Montana we need multiple jackets to cover various weather conditions, PLUS I'm female so I have a couple different colors, too. I don't want to have to search jacket pockets, I want it on a string.
As I said, I want a key lanyard because the hand can slip ....I am often on extended trips and want to know I can start the bike.
 I never did find the key i dropped in the GoldWing  fairing.
So I'll try some fishing line.

I have multiple jackets also.  But I do not change for color.  It's the guy thing in me...  :beerchug:

You have to switch you wallet around to make sure you have your license?  Keep it near that. :)