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Title: 09 tire pressure sensor
Post by: Steve on November 01, 2018, 01:42:04 am
Just traded for this 09 Concours this summer. The tire pressure reading on display will show front - rear tire pressure and the pressure number is blank. I'm replacing rear tire. I was thinking it's just dead batteries. When I got the tire off I could see the sensor was gone. Just wondering why they took it out? Do they give a warning light when bad and flash? Would that be a reason to remove It? If you bought another one would it have to be programmed? I seen some for about 200 bucks. Doing that probably won't happen.
Title: Re: 09 tire pressure sensor
Post by: Freddy on November 01, 2018, 02:04:05 am
You get a warning display when the sensor battery is low.  Perhaps both have been removed.  If both FR & RR show -- -- you can disconnect the battery for a few minutes and that will disappear when reconnected - until such time as new sensors/batteries are fitted.  New sensors' ID number must be registered into the bike's ECU with dealer's KDS kit, or an owner who has it.  The sensors were probably removed due to the owner being ignorant of how simple it is to replace the batteries.  If you buy new ones they last very much longer than the early type as the apparently have 2 batteries within like the BMW sensor has.
Title: Re: 09 tire pressure sensor
Post by: Steve on November 01, 2018, 02:38:42 pm
Thanks!
Title: Re: 09 tire pressure sensor
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on November 01, 2018, 09:16:01 pm
You get a warning display when the sensor battery is low.  Perhaps both have been removed.  If both FR & RR show -- -- you can disconnect the battery for a few minutes and that will disappear when reconnected - until such time as new sensors/batteries are fitted.  New sensors' ID number must be registered into the bike's ECU with dealer's KDS kit, or an owner who has it.  The sensors were probably removed due to the owner being ignorant of how simple it is to replace the batteries.  If you buy new ones they last very much longer than the early type as the apparently have 2 batteries within like the BMW sensor has.

the new sensors are potted, and do not contain 2 batteries, it's just a larger version, single battery, of the same cell diameter (thicker and 2x the milliamp rating).

Title: Re: 09 tire pressure sensor
Post by: Freddy on November 01, 2018, 10:47:56 pm
Please share the evidence of this with us MOB.   :beerchug:
Title: Re: 09 tire pressure sensor
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on November 02, 2018, 01:44:47 am
Please share the evidence of this with us MOB.   :beerchug:

 hang tight, I have to go thru a bunch of search, to find the post that was made of the "dissection" on the new style sensor, showing the "dremmel tool router bit cut away potting compound" and the actual battery installed, I did at that time make a comment/post in the thread about it all, and noted the battery number and it's ratings, I just have to find it, may have been on the ZG site, or here...

trust me, I'll find it...
Title: Re: 09 tire pressure sensor
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on November 02, 2018, 02:25:56 am
IIRC the battery was a 2050
like this, had it scribbled on a piece of paper.. still looking to find the 'dissection' picture.
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Murata-Electronics/CR2050W?qs=gTYE2QTfZfRXm8eOWXGmZw%3d%3d (https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Murata-Electronics/CR2050W?qs=gTYE2QTfZfRXm8eOWXGmZw%3d%3d)

it's a 'stepped' diameter battery, quite thick... but same package diameter.
Title: Re: 09 tire pressure sensor
Post by: Freddy on November 02, 2018, 05:12:19 am
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22384.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22384.0)
Title: Re: 09 tire pressure sensor
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on November 02, 2018, 08:38:05 pm
[url]http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22384.0[/url] ([url]http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=22384.0[/url])


thanks, yes that was one of the posts, the one I'm trying to find still is the one showing the 'carnage' of the potted sensor during the process of "dentist srill/dremel" cutting away of the compound, and the picture of the existing battery... that was where I got the 2050 battery number from, as the OEM batt was visible... I'll keep looking...
 but thanks, :great: :great: :great:
Title: Re: 09 tire pressure sensor
Post by: Freddy on November 04, 2018, 04:50:58 am
Here we go - Pangman has just done it here Downunder.  How good is that!
 
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/gtr1000/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4087&p=66164#p66164 (https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/gtr1000/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4087&p=66164#p66164)
Title: Re: 09 tire pressure sensor
Post by: Sailor Rich on November 04, 2018, 10:10:29 am
Awesome find Freddy
Title: Re: 09 tire pressure sensor
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on November 04, 2018, 06:04:55 pm
Here we go - Pangman has just done it here Downunder.  How good is that!
 
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/gtr1000/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4087&p=66164#p66164 (https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/gtr1000/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4087&p=66164#p66164)

thanks Freddy, I have to look at that on my phone, or my tablet, as I didn't have Tapatalk on my laptop... I do on my mobile devices tho, for ADV use...

Might want to also 'double caution' some of those fella's that are asking about using multiple batteries, and caution them further to prevvent them from "stacking them" as they will be is series then, not parallel, and that will not be good... :-\  I kow you understand the difference, but some folks don't, and will do just that, so..... :truce:

thanks again, :beerchug: