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15k mile service
« on: March 27, 2014, 02:55:50 pm »
I'm at about 13k miles right now but am possibly doing a 2k+ mile trip at the end of May, so I'm thinking just have them do the 15k mile service next week while my bike has all the bodywork off for my next body swap, thus saving me at least some cost on the 15k mile service related to the labor...  ???


I see a lot of posts that this 15k mile service is a waste of a $1k and that most valves and plugs are fine, so as much as I don't think it all that necessary per say I'm not about to roll the dice on my warranty...   ???


So I'm curious how many folks actually needed valves adjusted or plugs replaced... ???


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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2014, 03:20:57 pm »
I think doing the full service 2000 miles early and then undertaking a long trip will do the machine no harm at all. As it's starting and stopping that does the damage, multiple long days at full operating temperature will essentially cause zero engine wear, and you can stretch the 13000-mile service by 2000 miles to get back to the original schedule.

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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2014, 04:21:18 pm »
The hardest part is getting the plastics off and you know more about that than anyone.
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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2014, 05:23:59 pm »
The hardest part is getting the plastics off and you know more about that than anyone.

Yep, that's why I'm thinking just do it next week while already naked makes the most sense.  :beerchug:


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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2014, 05:47:54 pm »
14 of 16 valves were tight and out of acceptable tolerances and the other 2 were tight and just within tolerances. Adjusted all 16 while I had the cams out and decided just to replace the plugs while I was in there.  Also synced the throttle bodies, greased the steering bearings, and changed coolant while I had the access.  I had 15k miles on the bike

Next check will be at 30k miles at which point I will decide if I can increase the valve inspection frequency going forward
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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2014, 09:22:12 pm »
Mine had 9 of 16 that were tighter than spec, and 3 others toward that end. At 37000, all looked fine. I suspect that factory settings vary greatly from one bike to another.

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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2014, 09:56:59 pm »
So I'm curious how many folks actually needed valves adjusted or plugs replaced... ???

Check the valves, check the plugs, change the oil and change the paint, and you should be good to go! ;D

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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2014, 10:25:36 pm »
Mine had 9 of 16 that were tighter than spec, and 3 others toward that end. At 37000, all looked fine. I suspect that factory settings vary greatly from one bike to another.

have to look back, but that sounds like my results also, next 20k was 4 out of adjustment.

valves out of adjustment, plugs done since we were there. ( didn't see that option)

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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2014, 10:46:00 pm »
Did mine before 14k. I found 2 exhaust valves and 4 intake valves out of spec and tight, and the remaining 10 valves were on the tight side of the spec. You don't know where you stand until you check them. The plugs were good.
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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2014, 11:20:56 pm »
So I'm curious how many folks actually needed valves adjusted or plugs replaced... ???

Check the valves, check the plugs, change the oil and change the paint, and you should be good to go! ;D

J/K Jay!

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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2014, 11:29:04 pm »
Okay, I admit I am a real novice to owning a Super Tourer Sport bike but does a 15K service actually cost $1000???

I tried asking my local dealer in Michigan and they suggested a service plan when I buy the bike, said it was a saving. I can see why if this is true!!!

Guess I've still got a lot to learn!!!

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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2014, 11:50:07 pm »
 I just(3/1) had mine done with 15000 mile service. Tech reported ALL 8 exhaust and #3 intake were tight.  He changed 10 shims. When I question if number out of spec was normal his reply was "Most were out of spec by only 0.001 but out of spec and need adjustment". I have heard stories of service depts. doing No touch valve checks. I am fortunate to have a dealer/service dept(Razee Motorcycle Center) I trust to do the job right. 
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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2014, 01:17:32 am »
Okay, I admit I am a real novice to owning a Super Tourer Sport bike but does a 15K service actually cost $1000???

I tried asking my local dealer in Michigan and they suggested a service plan when I buy the bike, said it was a saving. I can see why if this is true!!!

Guess I've still got a lot to learn!!!

Russ

Yep.  :'(


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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2014, 05:44:51 am »
Jay - I can't believe you only have 15K on your bike.  I assumed you had much more.  I have 19K on my 2011.  Did you get a new bike or is this the same one you had when I rode with you up to Washington a year ago?  Who are you having do your work - Lamphere's??  I just brought my bike in there tonight to have the bar risers installed plus an oil change.  By the sounds of it, you have kept your paint shop busy.  http://forum.cog-online.org/Smileys/FantasticSmileys/smiley.gif

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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2014, 11:33:41 am »
Phil,
That bike spends a lot of time being undressed and redressed. Cant be riding it all the time when your trying to figure out what color is the "fastest" one!! Only 10,000,000   9,999,996 more colors to go Jay! Waiting anxiously over here for more pics dude!  Dude, Think of your carbon footprint!!! :)) :)) :))
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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2014, 11:56:36 am »
Here is a good thread on Valve Adjustment costs. It varies quite a bit.
http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,42364.0.html
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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2014, 12:10:20 pm »
Jay - I can't believe you only have 15K on your bike.  I assumed you had much more.  I have 19K on my 2011.  Did you get a new bike or is this the same one you had when I rode with you up to Washington a year ago?  Who are you having do your work - Lamphere's??  I just brought my bike in there tonight to have the bar risers installed plus an oil change.  By the sounds of it, you have kept your paint shop busy.  http://forum.cog-online.org/Smileys/FantasticSmileys/smiley.gif


Hey Phil, long time no see bro, hope all is well!  :beerchug:

Yep, same bike. I use Hillsboro Motosport for service on the Connie.  :great:


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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2014, 12:11:28 pm »
Phil,
That bike spends a lot of time being undressed and redressed. Cant be riding it all the time when your trying to figure out what color is the "fastest" one!! Only 10,000,000   9,999,996 more colors to go Jay! Waiting anxiously over here for more pics dude!  Dude, Think of your carbon footprint!!! :)) :)) :))
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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2014, 02:48:04 pm »
Did the 15k service at 17k. 6 valves needed adjusting and all the plugs were replaced at the same time. I won't be opening this motor up again until either the VC or the Cam Position Sensor starts leaking again.  :)
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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2014, 09:18:39 pm »
I had the valves checked at just a tick under 14k on the odo.  They were all within spec.  The plugs were ok but I replaced while bodywork was off.  I also replaced the air filter, pulled the upper throttle body butterflies, installed a full Area P Exhaust system and PCV.  The bike is a lot livelier in the lower and mid rev range.   ;D

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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2014, 11:02:24 pm »
It's possible, maybe even likely, that if you checked your valves instead of having them checked, your results would be different?  It appears from reading many posts on the valve checks that those that do their own work, or have a trusted mechanic, find valves out of spec.  Not 100% of the time, but it seems more often than not. The jury is out whether or not dealers either don't want to deal with the cams and tedious work, or otherwise charge for a service not rendered. A dealer not providing a shim map would be suspect and also detrimental for the owner and mechanic the next time the check is done.
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Re: 15k mile service
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2014, 01:28:11 pm »
It's possible, maybe even likely, that if you checked your valves instead of having them checked, your results would be different?  It appears from reading many posts on the valve checks that those that do their own work, or have a trusted mechanic, find valves out of spec.  Not 100% of the time, but it seems more often than not. The jury is out whether or not dealers either don't want to deal with the cams and tedious work, or otherwise charge for a service not rendered. A dealer not providing a shim map would be suspect and also detrimental for the owner and mechanic the next time the check is done.

This is precisely why I had the dealer write up a full shim map for me when he was doing the adjustment. I'm seriously considering riding out and paying Fred a visit in Texas the next time I need the valves done.  :)
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