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Re: 16ah series battery. Will it fit a C-14
« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2019, 03:36:40 pm »
Update on the question; "16ah series battery, Will it fit a C-14"...…

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yuasa-High-Performance-Factory-Activated-Battery-GYZ16H-YUAM716GH/352445771786?epid=209955446&hash=item520f67b00a:g:MAYAAOSwZSpdEl4q

I installed a Yuasa GYZ16H Battery in my bike yesterday.
Size wise, it fit perfectly.
I did have to cut 2 notches in the battery cover to fit the more powerful battery.
   But EZ to do.  :great:
           Heck,,, I think even MOB could probably (err) maybe do the install..  :nananana:

Ride safe, Ted

Any photos of the mods you had to make?

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Re: 16ah series battery. Will it fit a C-14
« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2019, 09:55:30 pm »
No, I didn't think to take photo's.   But you will need to do a very simple mod to the battery cover.

Look at the images of the GYZ16H Battery and compare with the OEM battery.
That comparison makes it EZ to understand why it's done.
The locating tabs** on the 16 series battery are closer together than the OEM battery.
* Plastic locating ridges near the battery posts..
The battery cover has to be grooved to allow those tabs to pass thru it.

16 series;
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yuasa-High-Performance-Factory-Activated-Battery-GYZ16H-YUAM716GH/352445771786?epid=209955446&hash=item520f67b00a:g:MAYAAOSwZSpdEl4q

Stock 14 series:
 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yuasa-YTX14-BS-Kawasaki-ZG1400-Concours-ABS-08-13-AGM-12-Volt-Battery/132766453161?epid=171264457&hash=item1ee97f4da9:g:OEwAAOSwXTVcVMQ~

Turn the cover over and look inside.
Under the top of the battery cover there is a piece of rubber attached.
At both  end's of the rubber, grind a 3/8" wide groove.
 Your cut will go across the flat and up the back {about 1/2" high) of the "pocket" in that battery cover..
   Looking from the end, that pocket section of the cover looks like an "L".
   Cut across the foot of the "L" and 1/2" up the side...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-Concours-14-ZG1400-2012-Upper-Battery-Case-Cover-2010-2017/122891937470?epid=1130897345&hash=item1c9cee26be:g:qiIAAOSwmOJaSur3:sc:USPSFirstClass!77067!US!-1

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Re: 16ah series battery. Will it fit a C-14
« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2019, 11:35:14 pm »
My battery has never failed in a snow storm....it did fail after riding at 105 degrees for 300 miles and it was only 4 years old....I will never run a battery for more than 3 years now. They work great until they don't and heat kills. It's just not worth being out in the middle of nowhere and taking a chance just to save a few bucks on a battery that could fail.
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Re: 16ah series battery. Will it fit a C-14
« Reply #53 on: November 18, 2019, 12:24:56 pm »
Hey Ted:

On the modification on the GYZ16H Battery.....

Is it safe to assume that one needs to simply "carve" a 3/8" channel between the negative and positive terminals, to run the negative lead out of the "box" and out to the grounding point?

Just want to be clear that those ARE the two tabs needing modification, and that they can be cut into (are they solid?) without damaging the battery case.

Note the attached picture.  Red line indicates the negative lead, and yellow circled tabs are the ones to be "modified".

Thanks.

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Re: 16ah series battery. Will it fit a C-14
« Reply #54 on: November 18, 2019, 01:20:42 pm »
"NO"... Do not modify the battery. Clearance for the negative cable is not a problem.
              The neg cable will fit exactly where it did originally.
NOTE: I can see the confusion, so I changed the wording on my original post.

Explanation; You need to cut holes/grove's thru the battery "cover" to allow it to set in place on the new battery.
                   (The locating tabs on the GYZ16H battery are closer together than the locating tabs on the OEM battery).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-Concours-14-ZG1400-2012-Upper-Battery-Case-Cover-2010-2017/122891937470?epid=1130897345&hash=item1c9cee26be:g:qiIAAOSwmOJaSur3:sc:USPSFirstClass!77067!US!-1

Above is a C-14 "Upper-Battery-Case-Cover".
In the 2nd and 3rd image's you see a pocket.
That pocket fits between the tabs on the OEM battery.
The cuts/grooves must be cut in the bottom and back of that pocket to allow room for the locating tabs {of the GYZ16H battery} to pass thru.

More detail; In the 4th image, the hold down cover is upside down.
                  You can see a {approx. (1" x 3") piece of rubber glued to the bottom of the pocket.
                     The grooves are cut thru the battery cover at the ends of the rubber.

Ride safe, Ted
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Re: 16ah series battery. Will it fit a C-14
« Reply #55 on: November 18, 2019, 04:02:34 pm »
Got it!

Thanks for clearing that up, Ted.  :great:

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Re: 16ah series battery. Will it fit a C-14
« Reply #56 on: November 26, 2019, 03:27:59 pm »
Humor aside. The battery will fit. The power from that battery is the exact match, tho it will not fit my OEM battery box adapter, which is nothing more than an adapter to make it fit snug.

IF I had to, right now, I could make the replacement battery fit (I measured the availble space without the adapter) just by adding the right amount of high density foam. I'd set the OEM adapter aside in case I was to find a battery that would fit it.

There is nothing magical about the OEM battery box adapter.
I disagree. If by box adapter you mean, COVER,BATTERY,UPP, that is a safety device that should not be removed.
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Re: 16ah series battery. Will it fit a C-14
« Reply #57 on: November 26, 2019, 07:21:20 pm »
in lieu of modifying any battery "cover" on the newer models,
you can obtain the OEM cover from an older model, tat will alleviate the issue, as it isn't "form fit" between the posts; i.e. it is wide open, and has an angular top surface..
the part number is 14091-0533, and can be seen on the kaw microfiche for the '08-'09 models..
(also used on all ZX14's from '06 thru '19)

its $22

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Re: 16ah series battery. Will it fit a C-14
« Reply #58 on: November 26, 2019, 09:34:41 pm »
I have noticed that this high performance battery seems pretty strong. Every other battery I have used,  probably 8 or 9 so far, would briefly drop to high 12 plus (12.7-12.8) after startup and then go to 14.+ This one has not dropped below 13 volts and today to 14.0