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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2011, 06:28:48 pm »
The vibration on my C14 came on at different rpm's. But was not what I considered a problem. All in all still one of if not the smoothest bikes I've owned. But it did have some vibrations. I think that vibrations though the dash was more annoying than vibrations felt through the bars though.

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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2011, 10:05:10 pm »
My '09, when in the twisties at a high rpm will put my right hand to sleep.  I have to find a straight piece of road and then shake my hand a few seconds to get the tingling to quit.

Other than that, no problems.

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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2011, 10:28:31 pm »
I answered 'no' to the poll. I have a 2011 and when the engine is running there are only the normal vibes that you would associate with a motorcycle. I had some issues with my hands going numb, but I solved that problem with bar risers, grab on grip covers, Kaoko throttle lock, and a Corbin seat. Running up the rpm's There are phases of vibration that occur, none of them problematic.
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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2011, 12:24:11 am »
As others have said, vibration is relative.  My 2011 vibrates more than my wing...or well, maybe it's more of a buzz... regardless, it's certainly no more than I'd expect or really care about for this type of bike.  So, I'm voting no.
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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2011, 03:24:38 am »
I get a bit of vibration at and above 4,000 rpm but it's really only noticeable in 6th gear (OD); reminds me to watch for cops. In the lower gears I don't notice it because I'm watching cars/trucks rapidly disappearing in my rearview mirrors.   :motonoises:  It could be better, but my KLR had a buzz over 65 mph and I remember my 1970 650 Yamaha moving across the garage floor when idling on its center stand.
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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2011, 06:10:01 am »
I answered 'no' to the poll. I have a 2011 and when the engine is running there are only the normal vibes that you would associate with a motorcycle. I had some issues with my hands going numb, but I solved that problem with bar risers, grab on grip covers, Kaoko throttle lock, and a Corbin seat. Running up the rpm's There are phases of vibration that occur, none of them problematic.

Define normal vibration.  I know my motorcycle experience is only a year old but I certainly feel that for the money and today's technology, this thing shouldn't vibrant or buzz like this. Another person on here works near by and is willing to let me check his bike. I am going to get with him to see what I find out.   I wonder what I will find if I put an accelerometer on it.  This would tell me what frequency it is buzzing at. Also what the amplitude is. I think that could be compared to the engine to see if there is a match.
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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2011, 02:23:57 pm »
Define normal vibration.  I know my motorcycle experience is only a year old but I certainly feel that for the money and today's technology, this thing shouldn't vibrant or buzz like this. Another person on here works near by and is willing to let me check his bike. I am going to get with him to see what I find out.   I wonder what I will find if I put an accelerometer on it.  This would tell me what frequency it is buzzing at. Also what the amplitude is. I think that could be compared to the engine to see if there is a match.

I've ridden a Harley for the last 5 years, it vibrates a lot, especially at idle. The Kawasaki in comparison is like a Swiss watch! When a 1352 cc engine is running I expect there to be some indication that it is doing so. What I meant was that on my 2011 there is nothing out of the ordinary through the rpm range that would give me pause. I used to own a 1987 C10, it had more vibration than the C14 but was still a joy to ride. My old 1984 KZ 1100 has more vibration than the C14 as well, but not a problem. Normal vibration to me means that you can feel your engine running, but you can ride your bike without any issues.

I like your idea of doing a comparison ride, hope that will sort out the problem.
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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2011, 08:18:01 pm »
Define normal vibration.  I know my motorcycle experience is only a year old but I certainly feel that for the money and today's technology, this thing shouldn't vibrant or buzz like this. Another person on here works near by and is willing to let me check his bike. I am going to get with him to see what I find out.   I wonder what I will find if I put an accelerometer on it.  This would tell me what frequency it is buzzing at. Also what the amplitude is. I think that could be compared to the engine to see if there is a match.

I've ridden a Harley for the last 5 years, it vibrates a lot, especially at idle. The Kawasaki in comparison is like a Swiss watch! When a 1352 cc engine is running I expect there to be some indication that it is doing so. What I meant was that on my 2011 there is nothing out of the ordinary through the rpm range that would give me pause. I used to own a 1987 C10, it had more vibration than the C14 but was still a joy to ride. My old 1984 KZ 1100 has more vibration than the C14 as well, but not a problem. Normal vibration to me means that you can feel your engine running, but you can ride your bike without any issues.


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I like your idea of doing a comparison ride, hope that will sort out the problem.

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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2011, 12:22:51 am »
No vibration on my 2011. I really don't feel any buzzing. Maybe I'm just not sensitive enough; but I think this bike is really smooth. I haven't really cranked her to the Red Line though. I've never had the need to be up there.  My brother thinks the Connie is smooth also. he rides an M109R.
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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2011, 01:15:38 am »
I just came from an M109R cruiser v-twin. Just bought a 2011 connie. It is glass smooth!

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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2011, 11:41:39 am »
Seems this poll is running neck and neck. Either inconclusive or it is demonstrating that there are vibrations out there.  I just wanted my experience to be much more positive than this.

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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2011, 12:54:03 pm »
No vibrations on my 2010 that I can tell although I do get some numbness on the throttle side pinky, mostly because I tend to over grip the throttle.  My only comparison is my 09 KLR, which I've come to call 'the eggbeater'   :motonoises:   I do Murph's risers and Phil's wedeges installed.
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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2011, 03:05:32 am »
This is all really subjective. I just picked up my 2012 today and it is smooth until about 4k rpm, then it has a little buziness - the Zx14 I just traded for it was also similar. However, both are smoother than the Yamaha V4 I also traded, which itseld was really smooth for a cruiser. I rode from the dealer home 70 miles and noticed the vibes pick up about 4K RPM but are not enough to numb my hands. They are minor and what I would consider normal, especially considering the handle bars are mounted solidly to the triple clamp, and are themselves long (making them more susceptible to harmonis, I would think).

ACR, because your MC experience is so new, I'd guess you don't have much to compare it against. Both the Zx14 and Concours are smoother than the 2003 ZX-9 I had. That doesn't mean your bike isn't abnormal, but there is no way for us to objectively compare without switching bikes.

Have you though of trying some gasket material or rubber between the handle bar mount points? I also wouldn't be surprised if a TB sync and a fueling remap (via PCV or the ECU flash) helped. I recall other instances (not on this motorcycle) where TB sync and fuel remaps helped smooth the engine out, which reduced vibrations.

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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2011, 05:19:29 am »
This is all really subjective. I just picked up my 2012 today and it is smooth until about 4k rpm, then it has a little buziness - the Zx14 I just traded for it was also similar. However, both are smoother than the Yamaha V4 I also traded, which itseld was really smooth for a cruiser. I rode from the dealer home 70 miles and noticed the vibes pick up about 4K RPM but are not enough to numb my hands. They are minor and what I would consider normal, especially considering the handle bars are mounted solidly to the triple clamp, and are themselves long (making them more susceptible to harmonis, I would think).

ACR, because your MC experience is so new, I'd guess you don't have much to compare it against. Both the Zx14 and Concours are smoother than the 2003 ZX-9 I had. That doesn't mean your bike isn't abnormal, but there is no way for us to objectively compare without switching bikes.

Have you though of trying some gasket material or rubber between the handle bar mount points? I also wouldn't be surprised if a TB sync and a fueling remap (via PCV or the ECU flash) helped. I recall other instances (not on this motorcycle) where TB sync and fuel remaps helped smooth the engine out, which reduced vibrations.

If your has a very minor buzz at 4K, then it sounds like yours is a smooth one, congrats.  I've ridden another of the same year as mine, and they were substantially different.  There was nothing subjective about it.

The vibration on mine is also worse under load, so that's another variable.  If I start to 'gently' increase speed from 3K RPM in 6th gear, the vibs in the foot pegs would numb the bottoms of my feet if I just held it at that acceleration rate.  It really kicks in once it gets above 3500RPM.

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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2012, 10:10:19 pm »
Warning- Thread resurection

I've been chasing the buzz in my bike for as long as I can remember.  Consistantly starts above 3500 and as described by others very pronounced in higher RPMs.

Only real checks have been torques but haven't  aggressively chased it.  Planning to get a TB sync at some point in a hope that it may help.... :sign0085:


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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2012, 01:57:17 am »
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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2016, 09:31:09 pm »
I have a little buzz on my 2011 with risers and foam grips.  The buzz has not put my hands to sleep but I do notice the vibration since I've been riding an ST1300 for a few years.  Thought maybe I could dampen the vibration by placing rubber under the handle bar mounts.
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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2016, 02:06:17 pm »
I answered 'no' to the poll. I have a 2011 and when the engine is running there are only the normal vibes that you would associate with a motorcycle. I had some issues with my hands going numb, but I solved that problem with bar risers, grab on grip covers, Kaoko throttle lock, and a Corbin seat. Running up the rpm's There are phases of vibration that occur, none of them problematic.

This - excepting I haven't gone to an aftermarket seat.  I think any in-line 4 will numb your hands if you leave them on the bars long enough.  Throttle lock (Omni cruise in my case) solved that problem for me.  And - I'm not sure the numbness was from vibration (which is minimal at best) or from arm position.  In addition to risers - I have wedges as well.
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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2016, 01:06:29 pm »
I have a 2012 and had an issue with a buzzing sound from the front at speed and could not locate it by riding. One day I was drying it after a wash and used a damp chamois to remove water spots from the front fender and noticed the same sound when the synthetic clothe would skitter across the paint. The sound turned out to be coming from the throttle side of the fender where it met a black plastic winglet if you will located adjacent to the front shock. So I isolated the joint between that side winglet and the fender with some adhesive and the sound is gone. All this time is was two pieces of plastic vibrating to make that noise.

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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #45 on: December 22, 2016, 03:50:37 pm »
My 2014 vibrates much less than my previous FJR 2005, even after doing the un authorized throttle body adjustments every year. The Concours is much smoother with no adjustments.
The FJR vibrates starting at 4200 RPM. My friend has a 2014 and same problem

 My concours has no cruise control but much smoother than a FJR in my books. On the JFR, I was always looking for a six gear In order to get rid of the buzzing vibration. 
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Re: 2011 Concours 14 buzz or vibration poll
« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2016, 12:05:20 am »
Tires and tire balance can also create buzz. I noticed this when I got new tires. I use a Cat O-Ring to cure hand numbness and when I have new tires I use it less. Old cupped tires create a lot of vibration.
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