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2018 C14 pulling to the right
« on: September 10, 2018, 09:30:10 pm »

I searched high and low to see if I can find anything as to why my bike pulls to the right while decelerating and my hands are not on the handlebars.

This is a brand new bike with about 1300 miles.

Anyone ever had that issue and know how to resolve it?

I will call the dealer tomorrow, but just wanted to see if this is "normal".

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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2018, 10:13:47 pm »
Wire harness or something pulling on steering?

Put on center stand and see if it pulls to right after wheel lifted off ground.
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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2018, 10:18:24 pm »
Definitely not normal. Agree with Harry and put on stand as a start to see if it the handlebars turn right. Could be cables/wires pulling it. Or something unbalanced on the fork? Check to see if its level or equal.
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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2018, 11:02:04 pm »
I put it up on the centerstand and lifted the front wheel up in the air and moved the wheel to one side or another. Even put it straight - but nothing obvious. I took the handlebar from full lock on the left to full lock on the right - there was slight tightness in the cables, but I didn't feel it was enough to do any pulling.

I don't know how to check if there is something unbalanced in the fork though. I will measure the fork and see if both sides match tomorrow morning.

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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2018, 11:58:51 pm »

I searched high and low to see if I can find anything as to why my bike pulls to the right while decelerating and my hands are not on the handlebars.

This is a brand new bike with about 1300 miles.


Anyone ever had that issue and know how to resolve it?

I will call the dealer tomorrow, but just wanted to see if this is "normal".

well, it doesn't sound 'normal', but then decelerating with your hands off the bars doesn't sound to normal either..

I'm sure the dealer will iron it out when you call, and explain the issue, and ask him to have his tech "recreate the scenario" to ascertain the problem...

this is the bike that you just bought, and was fine right up till now, correct?
I bought a 2018 last month for 12,150, and they threw in the Kawi touring seat - 400-500 value. I could have haggled a bit more, but didn't really feel like it. There was another dealer that would let it go for 11,899 - but he is a grumpy old guy with no customer service and no Kawi touring seat.

I needed to pay tax and title, but no set up fees or anything..

Just a data point.

sounds a bit like there may have been a reasonable doubt if "setup" was actually done, and if they tested it out...  but hey, they never charged a fee... :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

I would go over this with a fine tooth comb, go down the checklist as shown in the owners manual (hope they supplied that to you...) and check the fluids, and bolt tightness on everything... best of luck, tell us what they "find".

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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2018, 12:22:38 am »
Crown in the road , It's a good Idea to keep at least one hand on...

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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2018, 12:37:41 am »
Crown in the road , It's a good Idea to keep at least one hand on...

I know I know the earth's rotation :(

yeah, but it's so hard to do Facebook and text people with only one hand.. :))

just kidding...
question tho...

was the rear brake being activated in any manner, during the decell? even just a little bit...?
what were the settings on the K-ACT/braking modes set to also, during this "occurrence"..?


I love my ABS on my '08, but since the redevelopment of 'improved braking systems' Kaw has enacted, I still have some issues, and related doubts, about just how "good" they really are, and failures of expensive components recently have me very skeptical about their study...
JMHO...

the 'new' braking system applies braking to the front right side rotor ONLY, during a rear wheel "application of the brakes, which may be a precourser of some issues in this 'new system', we'eve already seen a marked increase of pad wear so far, on the front right side, associated with the 'new brakes', so we may be see a precursor to some newer issues that ain't quite ironed out yet...

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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2018, 01:11:04 am »
The decel is from me Letting go of the throttle, not braking or anything. It had the problem from day 1, but I was too mesmerized by all the other stuff, so I didn’t complain until now.

Good one on the cellphone :). All the cagers around me do it, so why not me!? J/K
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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2018, 01:19:08 am »
The decel is from me Letting go of the throttle, not braking or anything. It had the problem from day 1, but I was too mesmerized by all the other stuff, so I didn’t complain until now.

Good one on the cellphone :). All the cagers around me do it, so why not me!? J/K

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let the dealer sort it out, and ask to see the "as delivered inspection" sheet, the pink copy, you should have one also, it came with my bike, I had to sign it... why I had to sign it 'as acceptance' I'll never know...

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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2018, 11:08:33 am »
Yeah, you should try riding boxer Beemer while decelerating. It is a real treat!  :motonoises:

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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2018, 11:52:39 am »
My new 18 does the same thing.  It's more of a quick drift rather than a pull on mine.  I've been trying to evaluate this on better roads that appear flat and the drift is not as bad and is controllable via body english so I"m not too concerned about it. 

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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2018, 06:49:19 pm »
Well, mine can also qualify as a drift and I can get it to go straight down the road if i put more weight on the left side.

I called a dealer close to me and he told me that kawi's answer to the problem might be "don't remove your hands from the handlebar" - problem solved!

But he was very helpful. Asked if the brakes drag, and to loosen the pinchbolts and see if I can bounce the front suspension up and down to reseat the forks, etc. I did all of that, but can't ride it now - a lot of rain here in MD.

I will let everyone know what happens when I get a chance to ride.

Well, Just went out for a ride, much better - not completely gone, but very happy with it.

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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2018, 01:01:34 am »
I rode no handed today on the de-acel a couple times.  Sometimes you just want to relax and have some freedom.  I would say try to get it fixed of course, but don't stop going no handed if you don't want to.

Of course I ride like I want no one in front of me.  Was on I-85 today and I'll say no one passed me.

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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2018, 01:07:58 am »
One thing omitted in this discussion was driveshaft torque that make bike "drift" to the right under decel.


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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2018, 08:02:45 pm »
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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2018, 08:29:37 pm »
This driveshaft set up is soo much better than my old  1978 1100 XS Yamaha, the rear of the bike would lift under acceleration . :o
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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2018, 11:48:53 pm »
I had a bandit 1200 that would go into a wicked head shake under decel with hands off the bars. That was Suzis answer too. Don't remove your hands from the bars. Try this, get the front off the ground, loosen the axle pinch bolts, drop the bike back down and bounce the front suspension a couple time (hold the front brake and force the front down) re torque the axle pinch bolts. Worked for me on the suzi and a method I use every time I have the front wheel off on all my bikes. Seems to let everything find it's home before tightening. Luck.
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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2018, 06:24:43 am »
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Re: 2018 C14 pulling to the right
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2018, 02:16:02 pm »
I had a bandit 1200 that would go into a wicked head shake under decel with hands off the bars. That was Suzis answer too. Don't remove your hands from the bars. Try this, get the front off the ground, loosen the axle pinch bolts, drop the bike back down and bounce the front suspension a couple time (hold the front brake and force the front down) re torque the axle pinch bolts. Worked for me on the suzi and a method I use every time I have the front wheel off on all my bikes. Seems to let everything find it's home before tightening. Luck.
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