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Amsoil ?
« on: July 12, 2017, 07:10:33 pm »
A the risk of completely regretting posting this question.....for those of that have used Mobil 1 10/40W AND tried Amsoil 10/40W did you truly notice any difference with engine/transmission performance?

As a GL1800 Gold Wing owner too, most of us find there is NO real difference using Amsoil in the GW versus a good synthetic oil like Mobil 1. Thinking a good synthetic oil is a good synthetic oil.

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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2017, 07:19:45 pm »
Hi,
       I think you are on the right track! :great:

I run Amsoil in the "Beast" as it is a "ultra modern" state of the art engine!

I have run Mobil 1 in my pickup and wifes car for over 20 years!

I doubt in reality this thinking is valid...... :(

Just a "feel good" placebo effect probably!!! ;D
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2017, 08:51:39 pm »
Actually a good oil thread question to get the festivities started........  :popcorncouple:   I wondered the same thing having only used Mobil 1.
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2017, 08:53:44 pm »
Mobil1 Racing 4T 10w-40

because it has a picture of a race bike on the bottle

and it's relatively inexpensive and readily available

Amsoil is hard to find where I live

I've never experienced one is better than another, just less expensive
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2017, 09:00:25 pm »
^that said and Mobil 1 is expensive enough. I never priced anything else.
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2017, 10:01:46 pm »
I'm a Mobil 1 fanboi but I've wondered the same as well. We have a few local dealers  ;-)

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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2017, 10:14:14 pm »
I ran Mobil 1 but went with the Castrol this last change. I thought the shifting was feeling clicky at around 2,500 miles and after the change it feels slick again.
 
 
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2017, 10:31:45 pm »
I have used the Mobil 1 4T in my C10, and it has been good, bike runs good and shifts fine.

I have used Mobil 1 5w30 in my cars (all 4) for years, and it keeps them running fine, and I can go 6-7k between changes in the daily drivers.

I use Amsoil in my Harley - the 10w40 metric in the primary, gear oil in the trans and the v-twin oil in the engine.

I plan on using Amsoil in the C14, although the 600 mile change I put in Castrol full synthetic because I got a good price online, and I don't intend to leave that in for too long.

Any good synthetic oil will work, and if you maintain your vehicle you might never notice a difference between any of the good oils.

That's just my opinion, but I have put 100's of thousands of miles on my vehicles and they all run good and don't use oil out of the norm.

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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2017, 10:45:45 pm »
A friend of mine will tell you that it matters more that it has oil in it, than the brand of oil. ;)

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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2017, 11:05:46 pm »
Actually a good oil thread question to get the festivities started........  :popcorncouple:   I wondered the same thing having only used Mobil 1.
Always fun to read oil treads!
It is like,  which brand of bottled water is better!  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2017, 12:35:55 am »
Amsoil is good oil but there are different versions now of 'Synthetic' and  '100% Synthetic' the later being more expensive.  I got great results on 100% Amsoil when analyzed  by BlackStone.   
I did not notice any improvement in shifting from Mobil1 to Amsoil but I did notice  a big improvement in shifting when I went from  Amsoil to Motul 5100 which is what I use in my C14.
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2017, 12:55:45 am »
I did not notice any improvement in shifting from Mobil1 to Amsoil but I did notice  a big improvement in shifting when I went from  Amsoil to Motul 5100 which is what I use in my C14.

Motul 5100 4T, $11.59 per qt x 5qt but MOTUL 1gal is available for $37 but still need 1 more qt .
If I could only find MOTUL 5100 here I'd try it.

Mobil1 Racing 4T, $9qt per qt x 5qt

Thanks for the MOTUL tip Daytona Mike, I'm going to "amazon" that next.

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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2017, 03:36:48 am »
I did not notice any improvement in shifting from Mobil1 to Amsoil but I did notice  a big improvement in shifting when I went from  Amsoil to Motul 5100 which is what I use in my C14.
It is rather curious, when I switched back to dyno oil from full synth oil I noticed shifts in lower RPM spectrum have become softer, less clunky. 
It is as if synth oil is too slick to stop spinning gears in time for up/down change! Komisch, ja!

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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2017, 02:50:47 pm »
Amsoil is good oil but there are different versions now of 'Synthetic' and  '100% Synthetic' the later being more expensive.  I got great results on 100% Amsoil when analyzed  by BlackStone.   
I did not notice any improvement in shifting from Mobil1 to Amsoil but I did notice  a big improvement in shifting when I went from  Amsoil to Motul 5100 which is what I use in my C14.
Not to add oil to the fire  :)) , I also use motul 5100. I'm pretty happy with it. In fact, I use motul also in the final drive (not the same weight, of course).
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2017, 06:07:39 pm »
keep seeing folks state that mobile 1 is expensive...I get my mobile one, 4qtrs of 10w30 fully synthetic for 22.95 at walmart...thats not expensive when compared to what the oils protects...jmho
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2017, 06:48:21 pm »
keep seeing folks state that mobile 1 is expensive...I get my mobile one, 4qtrs of 10w30 fully synthetic for 22.95 at walmart...thats not expensive when compared to what the oils protects...jmho

Hi,
      When I was growing up in Georgia....

There was a small time Mechanic that was actually a humble Mechanical Genius! (WWII Vet!)

He used to say...."Oil's cheaper than metal!!!" ;D
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2017, 06:53:31 pm »
keep seeing folks state that mobile 1 is expensive...I get my mobile one, 4qtrs of 10w30 fully synthetic for 22.95 at walmart...thats not expensive when compared to what the oils protects...jmho

Hi,
      When I was growing up in Georgia....

There was a small time Mechanic that was actually a humble Mechanical Genius! (WWII Vet!)

As i grew up we had bikes, speed boats and a small water plane and my father always told me that if for no other reason then peace of mind change the oid frequently and use good quality...I have had almost zero major problems with any machines i have owned and i attribute that in part to my regime...

He used to say...."Oil's cheaper than metal!!!" ;D
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2017, 08:27:15 pm »
I did not notice any improvement in shifting from Mobil1 to Amsoil but I did notice  a big improvement in shifting when I went from  Amsoil to Motul 5100 which is what I use in my C14.

Motul 5100 4T, $11.59 per qt x 5qt but MOTUL 1gal is available for $37 but still need 1 more qt .
If I could only find MOTUL 5100 here I'd try it.

Mobil1 Racing 4T, $9qt per qt x 5qt

Thanks for the MOTUL tip Daytona Mike, I'm going to "amazon" that next.

Earlier today I ordered Motul 4T.  I use to run it in my Guzzi Stelvio, figured it was good enough for the C14
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2017, 08:48:09 pm »
Okay, I'll be the one to mix it up a little. I started using Rotella T6 in my C14 approx. 110,000 -120,000 miles ago. Now at 182,000 I don't see any problems.

$19.50 a gallon at Wal Mart! I'm just not paying $10 - $12 a quart for oil & doing 4 -5 oil changes a year. With a filter that's $70.00 per change.

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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2017, 08:57:21 pm »
keep seeing folks state that mobile 1 is expensive...I get my mobile one, 4qtrs of 10w30 fully synthetic for 22.95 at walmart...thats not expensive when compared to what the oils protects...jmho
Is that a 4T motorcycle oil you're referencing?
I stopped by my local walmart and they don't carry any 4T in "gallon" containers, just quart and it's $9/qt
I wish it was $5.75/qt
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2017, 09:04:03 pm »
Wesson, that's the ticket!
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2017, 09:06:20 pm »
My 2008 C14 never had any engine issue whatsoever and I ran Castrol 4T petroleum every 2500miles
It was $5/qt

It only had 38000 miles, not 120,000 miles
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2017, 09:07:56 pm »
Okay, I'll be the one to mix it up a little. I started using Rotella T6 in my C14 approx. 110,000 -120,000 miles ago. Now at 182,000 I don't see any problems.

$19.50 a gallon at Wal Mart! I'm just not paying $10 - $12 a quart for oil & doing 4 -5 oil changes a year. With a filter that's $70.00 per change.

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That's very interesting!
I just read "Bobtheoilguy"
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2334311
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2017, 09:38:50 pm »
I ran Mobil 1 15-50 in my C10 and my GL1800 for years. Only quit because it got too hard to find. Never experienced any problems with either bike.
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Re: Amsoil ?
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2017, 09:54:35 pm »
My synthesis of all the WISDOM shared everywhere is part synthetic has benefits, motorcycle oil generally good, so I use Actevo in mine and she runs great.

Funny story: An old friend of mine gave me his 1968 VW bug back in about 1984. It was in OK shape. But his grand pronouncement was that I should do as he did and only use 80W aircraft oil in the engine. Those engines had such loose tolerances, and he swore it kept the thing running. I thought to hell with that, and put in 20-50 at the first change. Got leaks at the seals. Went out and found that high weight aircraft stuff, no more leaks. What I loved about the story is that although people spend way too much time thinking and arguing about oil, it really can make a difference in some settings (aside from having oil good, no oil bad).
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