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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2017, 04:44:40 am »
I'll chime in to say I cannot imagine needing more sport, as I barely twist my wrist and I'm 30-80 in a heartbeat, and when I hanker for some miles I'm able to chew them up in comfort for hour after hour. Really, I love acceleration with an unhealthy passion. I don't give a crap about speed, but acceleration, that gets me going. It's the g's man, the g's. Yet I can go to market and bring home a good supply of groceries!

Not a ride out there that does these two things better, for anything close to the same price.
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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2017, 11:20:35 am »
The church group I ride with is mostly young guys on sport bikes
The other day I let one of them sit on the Mule with the russell seat he was in awe of how comfortable it is
Our usual meet and ride consist of about a 30-40 mile ride from church to somewhere to eat These guys think they have done a lot of riding and head home after I on the other hand go knock out at least the rest of my tank
Young mans touring bike old mans sport bike
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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2017, 09:12:51 pm »
I'm not sure what defines sport toured, anymore. I think my ninja 1000 is classified as a "sport tourer", too, but the concourse is in a different class when it comes to any sort of distance being involved.
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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2017, 08:24:54 pm »
I always thought these were just Fat Ninjas.

I however, never looked at "Sport Touring" as a class of motorcycle. Its a class of enthusiast.

Yes you can define a bike in a class based on engine tune, fairings, seating position, ride height, and blahblahblah.

The truth is you're just riding a motorcycle designed to perform a certain way for a certain enthusiast. "Sport Touring" motorcycles are designed for a rider that loves to go balls to the wall but, also likes to sit back and smell the fresh air running through their vents.

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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2017, 09:44:57 pm »
i don't care what anybody says or thinks.. i love my concours,it's comfy handles well(after mods). has seen 160mph more than once, thanks to steve and area p.it ain't perfect but bang for the buck i think it's great, i'm on my second c14 and can't think of anything i'd rather ride. i've logged over 800,000 miles on many different bikes, but the connie is my favorite..... imho... :great:
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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2018, 02:09:13 am »
Fit a MRA sports screen,Sargent seat,Mountain runner flash,a set of Pirelli Angel GT 'A' spec tyres and it will do me till something better comes along,and I have been waiting a long time for that situation.

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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2018, 08:08:31 am »
Until I moved to Germany my riding group consisted of guys all on pure sport bikes. GSXR's, S100RR's, and Ducati's. The C14 never had a problem staying with or leading the the group except on track days when they had the clear weight advantage. My riding is decidedly on the Sport side of the scale, I just have to work a little harder with the "FatNinja".
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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2018, 03:19:07 am »
When I bought mine in 2012, Kawasaki listed it as a "Transcontinental Super Sport". Now with over 50,000 miles it would still rather be doing 70+ on a twisty back road than plodding along an arrow straight super-slab. Nothing drags, no matter how it's loaded. It stops hard when asked, (although the linked brakes should be ditched) It has the power to pass just about anything on the road, weather it wants to be passed or not. Besides, I'd say anything that crests 100 mph by the time you hit third out of 6 gears is a bit more that a glorified touring machine. Most people I know are scared of mine, and don't know how docile it is below 4000 rpms. It's above 4000 where it gets "sneaky quick" and you'd better be ready. A friend who finally rode it last year, ran it through the first 4 gears without even getting close to red line. When he came back he had that grin on his face. He just looked at me and said, "Man! it sure gets to 100 quick!" As I see it, the biggest problem that holds these back is pesky speed limits and law enforcement.

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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2018, 06:28:12 am »
" As I see it, the biggest problem that holds these back is pesky speed limits and law enforcement."


Speed limits make great 1/2 speed "Suggestions" and Law Enforcement will save your a** when needed. Most of our rides were on Mondays or Wednesdays in the No. Calif. foothills. Very little or no traffic and as long as we were only riding at a "Sporting pace" most of the LEO's left us alone. However saying that we Never raced from corner to corner or got stupid. We had and observed a strict set of rules of behavior, the first being "Ride your own ride". New riders were by invitation only and carefully observed, most were not invited back but politely told why and given suggestions about how to improve. Our youngest member was 54 and everyone had at least 15 years experience and some track time/training.
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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2018, 03:14:02 am »
Hey Deepsea, I couldn't agree more. LEO's have never bothered me. Even one day when I caught up to one way up in northern NY doing 20 over. By the time I saw the dark SUV had the light bar it was too late. I hung back 100 yds, resigning myself to doing the 5 over he was. Suddenly he signaled he was pulling to the shoulder. I thought, "oh boy, here it comes" well, he didn't pull back onto the road until I was at least a half mile ahead. As soon as I was out of sight around the next corner I ran it back up to 15 to 20 over and never saw him again. He basically saw me coming, and got out of my way. The coolest NYS trooper I never met. A very similar event happened to me in Iowa coming back from Colorado. On Rt80 again doing 15 to 20 over, in the third lane passing tractor trailers. A trooper doing a "U" pulled right behind me as I was beside a truck. I thought, "well he's got me" so I completed my pass and started pulling to the shoulder for my ticket, as he blew past intent on getting someone who had passed me a couple miles before. I've always thought my NYS plates would be a handicap espicially out of state, but they haven't so far. Of course the side bags and trunk dont hurt either.
As far as scraping pannels. Nope, maybe touched the pegs a time or two and my toes quite a bit. I T-boned a deer in spring or 16 without going down so I know just how expensive this plastic is. The Connie is the most stable bike I've ever ridden and a pretty tough cookie to boot. I destroyed the front fender, upper nose fairing and headlight assembly, both sides pannels, without damaging the brake lines, windshield, cooling system, suspension or electronics. ($3000 in parts) The trooper asked me how far I was from home. When I said about 50 miles he mentioned that was quite a ways. I said I can't ride this, the blinkers are dangling from the wires, (still working by the way) and the headlights were smashed out. He just looked to the sky and said, "well, the suns still up"... (another exellent NYS trooper in my book) I quickly checked for leaks and found none, the brakes were working, and she fired right up. I rode it to 20 and tried the brakes, which worked as they always did, and had no shimmy or nothing. Insurance covered me for $3800 so I actually made a bit. Of course thats cause I did the work myself, but in doing so I learned that these things are engineered insanily well. Well done Kawasaki! You've got a fan in me for the bike thats saved my butt more that once.

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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2018, 11:50:54 pm »
Hey Deepsea, I couldn't agree more. LEO's have never bothered me. Even one day when I caught up to one way up in northern NY doing 20 over. By the time I saw the dark SUV had the light bar it was too late. I hung back 100 yds, resigning myself to doing the 5 over he was. Suddenly he signaled he was pulling to the shoulder. I thought, "oh boy, here it comes" well, he didn't pull back onto the road until I was at least a half mile ahead. As soon as I was out of sight around the next corner I ran it back up to 15 to 20 over and never saw him again. He basically saw me coming, and got out of my way. The coolest NYS trooper I never met. A very similar event happened to me in Iowa coming back from Colorado. On Rt80 again doing 15 to 20 over, in the third lane passing tractor trailers. A trooper doing a "U" pulled right behind me as I was beside a truck. I thought, "well he's got me" so I completed my pass and started pulling to the shoulder for my ticket, as he blew past intent on getting someone who had passed me a couple miles before. I've always thought my NYS plates would be a handicap espicially out of state, but they haven't so far. Of course the side bags and trunk dont hurt either.
As far as scraping pannels. Nope, maybe touched the pegs a time or two and my toes quite a bit. I T-boned a deer in spring or 16 without going down so I know just how expensive this plastic is. The Connie is the most stable bike I've ever ridden and a pretty tough cookie to boot. I destroyed the front fender, upper nose fairing and headlight assembly, both sides pannels, without damaging the brake lines, windshield, cooling system, suspension or electronics. ($3000 in parts) The trooper asked me how far I was from home. When I said about 50 miles he mentioned that was quite a ways. I said I can't ride this, the blinkers are dangling from the wires, (still working by the way) and the headlights were smashed out. He just looked to the sky and said, "well, the suns still up"... (another exellent NYS trooper in my book) I quickly checked for leaks and found none, the brakes were working, and she fired right up. I rode it to 20 and tried the brakes, which worked as they always did, and had no shimmy or nothing. Insurance covered me for $3800 so I actually made a bit. Of course thats cause I did the work myself, but in doing so I learned that these things are engineered insanily well. Well done Kawasaki! You've got a fan in me for the bike thats saved my butt more that once.
Hey Upstate, We are neighbors and honestly think its a NY thing. I ride per the conditions, road, weather and traffic. Doubling the speed limit is nothing for me. I know I have been spotted doing 20 over and given a free pass. I think its partly the bike. had I been on the CBR 1000 it would be a different story..

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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2018, 02:19:10 pm »
"Hey Upstate, We are neighbors and honestly think its a NY thing. I ride per the conditions, road, weather and traffic. Doubling the speed limit is nothing for me. I know I have been spotted doing 20 over and given a free pass. I think its partly the bike. had I been on the CBR 1000 it would be a different story.."

"a NY thing" I wasn't aware the N.CA Sierra's were in NY. On one ride with six total bikes(1 GSXR, 2 S1000RR's, 1 Aprilla, 1 Fireblade and my C14) we got pulled over by a CHP who said "I didn't stop you to write tickets even though you were exceeding the speed limit by 30 mph. I stopped you to say it's refreshing to see a group of bikes not being stupid. You guys looked like a Ballet going through the curves." He then remarked on the fact that we all looked old enough to be his father and not the young kids he expected. After talking for another 20 minutes about road conditions, bikes etc. he said "Ride safe" then left. Nicest ticket I never got.

To get back on topic. Yes the C14 is a SPORT Touring bike. You just have to work a little harder to "Flick" the FatNinja through the curves.
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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2018, 05:29:45 pm »
Nothin' better than reading these Concours stories, I've noticed police don't seem to look twice at this bike. Last summer I went by a stater doing 20 over and nothin'. I figured it was the bags and upright sitting position telling him I was a tourer.  And I've never been on one that the speedo keeps up with the tach..        Ya this site is pure bike porn. Ha ha KJ

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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2018, 06:47:46 pm »
Lets not get too cocky. Two years ago I got stopped and ticketed for going 72 in a 65 on Interstate 80.
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Re: Apparently the Concours 14 is not a sport touring bike...
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2018, 06:44:22 pm »
Lets not get too cocky. Two years ago I got stopped and ticketed for going 72 in a 65 on Interstate 80.


Yeah I got dinged for 57 in a 55 by a trooper following me in an unmarked Dodge. Indiana troopers and sheriffs are using everything from Camaros/Mustangs to Chargers and RAM 1500s. Not sure why they would bother as I was just puttin along. Last day of the month so I chalked it up to quota.

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Only enforcing speeding. Not left lane slow traffic (they go around on the right), Not cell phone usage (impossible to enforce the way the laws are written they say), not Blacked out tail lamps you can't see when following, not trailers with no lights hooked up.....just speeding.