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Offline KennyS

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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2014, 05:14:54 pm »
Has this really been a big problem..it seemed to me that once they bags were on and locked they were pretty darn secured....have any of you had these actually fall off or are you doing this pin mod because you read the thread.
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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2014, 07:05:04 am »
I've seen one video of it happening and heard of a couple more.  That's a good enough reason for me to do it.
I'm a firm believer of taking easy/cheap steps to prevent bad things that might happen. It's the same reason we buy insurance. 
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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2014, 09:57:10 am »
I ordered and installed these from Amazon. 3/16" x 2" stainless. 14 dollars with shipping. The price has dropped as it is another vendor selling them now.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002GPLCLS/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_3p_M3T1_ST1_dp_1

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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2014, 04:49:21 pm »
I ordered and installed these from Amazon. 3/16" x 2" stainless. 14 dollars with shipping. The price has dropped as it is another vendor selling them now.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002GPLCLS/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_3p_M3T1_ST1_dp_1


Did you by any chance read the source and price I noted in this threads initial post???

Just curious. :beerchug:

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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2014, 06:59:06 am »
Yes, it's just another option if someone has an amazon account and/or wants the stainless pins.

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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2014, 05:06:16 pm »
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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2014, 04:55:15 am »
Is this the whole reason why we are discussing pinning?  :)   :rotflmao:

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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2014, 01:57:48 am »
Looks normal. 

What's the problem?

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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2014, 02:04:58 am »
Looks normal. 

What's the problem?

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Found this on the Muzzy site... thought it was pretty funny that they actually put them on backwards and didn't even realize it then used in their active website!


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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2014, 02:35:04 am »
Lenny, it looks like you have a slight leak from your rear hub.
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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2015, 06:12:37 pm »
Lenny, it looks like you have a slight leak from your rear hub.

that pic was my pic, and my bike...
no, there was no leak on my hub,ni just used a bit to much grease when I lubed the spines,it slings off and does that... no leaks.

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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2016, 12:53:47 pm »
Here is what you all want...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Concours-14-GTR-1400-All-Years-Saddlebag-Retaining-Brackets-/281304903198?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item417f142e1e&vxp=mtr

Have been using them for three years with no issues whatsoever.  Enjoy.


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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2016, 01:27:43 pm »
Here is what you all want...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Concours-14-GTR-1400-All-Years-Saddlebag-Retaining-Brackets-/281304903198?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item417f142e1e&vxp=mtr

Have been using them for three years with no issues whatsoever.  Enjoy.



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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2016, 03:22:39 pm »
Back in the 2007-8 model years, there was a recall on the latches.  Yes, people DID lose their bags.  Kawi stepped up and improved the design.
I thought that solved the whole thing.  I have wrenched on my side bags to see if I can get them to pop loose, and thankfully with no success.  Granted, these pins are cheap insurance, but are people really still losing their bags since the recall?
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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2016, 04:53:33 pm »
I pinned my bags using the McMaster Carr and the instructions given, and the pins are beginning to slide out of place. if I don't push them back in after every commute, I am afraid they will slide clear out, proving worthless.

any suggestions? the pins do have the spring loaded ball at the end, but doesn't seem to matter.

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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2016, 06:30:01 pm »
I pinned my bags using the McMaster Carr and the instructions given, and the pins are beginning to slide out of place. if I don't push them back in after every commute, I am afraid they will slide clear out, proving worthless.

any suggestions? the pins do have the spring loaded ball at the end, but doesn't seem to matter.

having been the first "pinner", I tried to stress in my post on drilling a pilot hole using a 1/8" drill, and then running a 3/16" one in perfectly straight to prevent making the hole oversized and too loose. I guess if yours loosened, this may have occurred. Mine have been on for ages, and I've pulled and reinstalled hundreds of times, not lost one yet... I do carry 2 spare new ones tho, just for insurance... I suppose you could do a single wrap of black electrical tape on the barrel to recreat a snug fir again, or replace them with new ones if the detent balls got smooshed in... or eveen a mini tie wrap thru the split ring and around the lump... all would work.

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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2016, 08:27:33 pm »
If you ride a lot of miles loaded on bumpy roads even well drilled holes will "waller out" a bit, making the pins a loose fit. One of mine did (the one my wife loads up  :-[) A suitable size cotter pin solved the problem. Not as convenient or elegant but it does the job. I'm working on a better solution.

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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2016, 08:54:57 pm »
If you ride a lot of miles loaded on bumpy roads even well drilled holes will "waller out" a bit, making the pins a loose fit. One of mine did (the one my wife loads up  :-[) A suitable size cotter pin solved the problem. Not as convenient or elegant but it does the job. I'm working on a better solution.
Get a washer that the pin barley fits threw, Once the pin is in place push the washer over the pin & ball & it will keep it from working out  :beerchug:
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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2016, 09:22:57 pm »
If you ride a lot of miles loaded on bumpy roads even well drilled holes will "waller out" a bit, making the pins a loose fit. One of mine did (the one my wife loads up  :-[) A suitable size cotter pin solved the problem. Not as convenient or elegant but it does the job. I'm working on a better solution.
Get a washer that the pin barley fits threw, Once the pin is in place push the washer over the pin & ball & it will keep it from working out  :beerchug:
That's what I was thinking about, actually gluing the washer in place. Not sure if glue will stick considering the plastic.

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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2016, 11:48:46 pm »
Has this really been a big problem..it seemed to me that once they bags were on and locked they were pretty darn secured....have any of you had these actually fall off or are you doing this pin mod because you read the thread.
I have been to  many COG events and I always hear about  and/or see a bag that has come off  so I would say it is not a big problem until it happens to you. :beerchug:
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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2016, 12:01:16 am »
bag pinning...re-dux







place the bags on the bike, observe the location I showed with relation to the "ribs" on the bag lower yoke, spot the position. pre-drill the first hole using a 1/8" dia bit, this allows you to spot the hole, drill the guide hole, and remove the bags for drilling thru the mount easily with the correct bit.
before you drill anything insure the 2 screws that hold the plastick "puck" onto the mount are securely tightened, this insures a good and consistant assembly.

Drill to final diameter using a 3/16" diameter bit, do not get "sloppy" and rotate the bit and drill around, drill straight thru, this insures a tight interface to keep the pin in it's happy spot. The pins have a ball detent to reduce the chance of backing out, but after hours of banging around they do move...just check them occasionally, and push them back in firmly if they move.

I got these pins from McMaster-Carr, a great source for "stuff" you may need to fix a bike, modify anything, or get any freaking tool you need....they ship fast, cheap, and sometimes for free...I have had parts from them delivered within 36 hours of ordering...they rock!

I ordered 4, just because I wanted spares.....

http://www.mcmaster.com/#98320a020/=ci7v7g

98320A020 4 Each Zinc-plated Steel Ring-grip Quick-release Pin, 3/16" Diameter, 2.0" Usable Length
they are now $1.47 each, if you buy 2, shipping is the same as if you buy 4....

I got these for IIRC $8 delivered, within 40 hours of calling.

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I'm sharing this from a re-build on "the other place"...
http://zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1152.msg11081#msg11081


Is 3/16 the max dia. you can go with the hole?


I did this a couple of years ago, and have had zero problems.  However, I did notice the Allen head bolts that hold the plastic end pieces in place, were loose, so I lock-tited them
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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2016, 02:34:03 am »
Thanks again for the post, MOB....just pinned mine tonight.  Peace of mind and pretty clever solution.
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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2016, 09:07:16 am »
Thanks again for the post, MOB....just pinned mine tonight.  Peace of mind and pretty clever solution.

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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2017, 02:24:34 pm »
these should work for retaining. I ordered a set to try

cable is 2mm   = .08 in
length 10cm  = 3.93 in

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Colorful-Stainless-Steel-Wire-Keychains-Cable-Screw-Clasp-Key-Ring-10cm-4-2mm-/151792262630?var=&hash=item2357861de6:m:mtI1T-6_4VYENOUR1v-dfZg
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Re: bag pinning...re-dux
« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2017, 03:12:25 pm »
Funny finding this post as I have recently viewed a report about pinned bag's on the Connie.
Is having a bag fly off a common problem, or is this more procautionary?