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Battery in 2014 C-14
« on: October 02, 2014, 04:39:22 pm »
Can anyone tell me if its an AGM battery in the new Concours?  Thanks

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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2014, 11:01:19 pm »
I highly doubt it, FSM says not to remove the battery top seal for fear of leaking. Go to Battery Mart dot com amn get a AGM big crank with 220CCA and it leak proof. Have this on my ZX14, put one on the KLR and soon on the C14

http://www.batterymart.com/c-kawasaki-zg1400-concours-battery.html
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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2014, 02:37:11 am »
I highly doubt it, FSM says not to remove the battery top seal for fear of leaking. Go to Battery Mart dot com amn get a AGM big crank with 220CCA and it leak proof. Have this on my ZX14, put one on the KLR and soon on the C14

http://www.batterymart.com/c-kawasaki-zg1400-concours-battery.html


I also have a Big Crank..
I'm wondering if it's an Odyssey.

 

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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2017, 09:28:01 pm »
I know this is an old discussion.
My battery seems weak when cranking. But is fine after running a few minutes.
I know I need to check the terminals, but I'm assuming I need to get one soon as it's a 2014.

Wondering if everyone is using a AGM battery now?

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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2017, 09:56:11 pm »
I know this is an old discussion.
My battery seems weak when cranking. But is fine after running a few minutes.
I know I need to check the terminals, but I'm assuming I need to get one soon as it's a 2014.

Wondering if everyone is using a AGM battery now?

Ride safe, Ted

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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2017, 10:50:19 pm »
I know this is an old discussion.
My battery seems weak when cranking. But is fine after running a few minutes.
I know I need to check the terminals, but I'm assuming I need to get one soon as it's a 2014.

Wondering if everyone is using a AGM battery now?

Ride safe, Ted

Ted, a couple of questions if you please? Does your battery stay connected to a tender and when did you buy your 2014? Mine (2014) stays connected and I bought in Oct 2015 out of a crate, but no idea if the battery was also in that crate. So far it's good, but I'm always a little skeptical of any battery, car or bike, that is 3+ years old. First sign of weakness and I replace them. Better here than some podunk c-store parking lot in SE Hooterville.
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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2017, 11:27:53 pm »
Old thread, I still have the OEM battery in the 2013 C14, its always on a tender no matter how long it sits in the garage, on one right now.

The battery leads do get loose overtime, also lower temps mean a slower engine turnover when starting that may mimic a weak battery.

Its in the mid 20's here and the KLR turns over a bit slower due to the cold and thicker oil in the CC.

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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2017, 12:42:02 am »
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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2017, 12:48:32 am »
If your battery is past the 5 year mark, or close to it, expect to need a new one regardless of how you maintain it.


The battery tenders put a battery that would usually last 3 without being 'maintained' with a tender to the 5 year mark.  But after that you'll still need to replace it.


I have a 2015 and I'll replace that battery at the end of 2019 regardless of how it works.


Trying to replace a battery on the road is very frustrating.  Preempt it and do it at 5 years. Thats plenty long enough.


If you are having issues now, it may be time if its not regularly topped off by a tender.

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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2017, 01:02:00 am »
That's been my expectation and experiences too.
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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2017, 04:43:49 am »
I will be replacing mine with YUASA.
GYZ16H from Amazon. 92 bucks + free shipping

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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2017, 10:37:30 am »
Thats about right.

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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2017, 12:22:15 pm »
I replaced the battery in my Aprilia last year with a non-agm OEM Yuasa as well. (amazon purchase)
It was 10 years Old.  No exaggeration - 10 YEARS!
It tested and operated absolutely fine, but I just needed the piece of mind to have a new
battery in the bike, and not subjecting myself to getting stranded.

It was maintained from day 1 on an Optimate3 tender,

I researched FePo, LiIon, AGM, and other battery types and brands - and in the end, I went with the trusty
old Lead Acid Yuasa OEM.
If it made it 10 friggin' years, I fig'd "why mess with a good thing"???
https://www.webbikeworld.com/category/review/motorcycle-accessory-reviews/battery-and-charger-reviews/

Agree with everyone here -- 5 year replacement cycle is good policy, especially if you're like us and doing
big miles and long trips.  :great:

I just purchased an Optimate4 to use for the concours.
I am kicking myself for not doing this sooner, but better late than never.

The main reason I decided to finally get a tender for the C14, is that I now have a quick connect port for the charger, ala my warm-n-safe outboard plug-in port for my heated gear.
It's a direct line to the battery, and I bought an SAE to Coax adapter from warm-n-safe to mate up with the
Optimate plug end.  Brilliant.


I did more research on newer battery chargers before I bought the Optimate again, and given the longevity and subjectivity of charging behaviors, couldn't find any evidence of one brand being better than others.  Battery tender has a longer warranty than optimate, but I chose to go with the more sophisticated charging / maintaining electronics on the Optimate, AND my experience with the Optimate3.

https://tecmate.com/?post_type=products&productcategorie=battery-chargers

I have come to believe, owning a battery tender is one of the cheapest, best ways to keep your battery in top shape, and last as long a possible. 

gr

« Last Edit: December 11, 2017, 02:33:13 pm by ghostrider990 »
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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2017, 12:44:33 pm »
Neat.
 
(Sorry to hijack your thread Butch)   :(
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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2017, 02:31:17 pm »
Neat.
 
(Sorry to hijack your thread Butch)   :(

Yeah....i thought that too after I destroyed it.

Apologies to the OP.  :truce:

And nicely done Ron.  :great:

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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2017, 03:37:55 pm »
Well, since we've done it, what kind of connector is that? My pigtail just sort of hangs out the side of the cover (OOPS).  :rotflmao:
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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2017, 01:34:21 am »
Check out my Heated Gear Install thread for all the details!

http://forum.cog-online.org/riding-gear/heated-gear-2017/

But that connector is a Coax plug-in that mates -up to the fused pigtail battery connection from warm-n-safe.

I had thought about installing a tender for a long time, and wanted a cleaner solution than just hanging an SAE jack to one side of the seat or fairing. (like you Ron!)  :nananana:
Also, wanted to try a cig. lighter socket for the charger, but the OEM cig lighter is switched, and wouldn't accept a charge with the bike off, and I didn't have any room behind the panel on the left side.

The one thing I don't like about this connector, is it's a FULL 3/4" diameter hole that has to be drilled in the plastic.
So, it's there to stay!  But it's solid, and made of brass.  Can be purchased from WNS website including the SAE adapter to mate with your charger of choice.

Here's the  Coax connector that mates to the Pigtail:
« Last Edit: December 13, 2017, 01:40:27 am by ghostrider990 »
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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2017, 12:42:44 pm »
Thanks.   :beerchug:
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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2017, 03:21:23 pm »
I bought my used 2008 concours 14 in early 2010,and it had its original battery.    At that time, I also bought  a battery tender junior.

I had to replace my original battery, for this riding season.  I noticed low voltage on start up, but all else was ok.

No idea of I got a "good one" or if that battery tended jr helped, but I cant complain about 9 years of service from the original battery.




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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2017, 03:35:13 pm »
Ted, a couple of questions if you please? Does your battery stay connected to a tender and when did you buy your 2014? Mine (2014) stays connected and I bought in Oct 2015 out of a crate, but no idea if the battery was also in that crate. So far it's good, but I'm always a little skeptical of any battery, car or bike, that is 3+ years old. First sign of weakness and I replace them. Better here than some podunk c-store parking lot in SE Hooterville.

I have to admit, I don't leave it on a tender. In fact, I have never charged it.
Yea I know,,, no wonder it's low.
I've never used a tender on any of my bikes, and they last the normal amount of years, then go bad.
With the heat around here, they normally die pretty catastrophically...
Which is why I assumed this one was about done, and was planning to replace it with an AGM.

I do realize I can put it on a tender and keep it longer.
Just prefer to replace before it's bad. {as I hate the idea of it dying on the road sometimes}

I bought this bike in mid 14.

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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2017, 10:41:53 am »
Ted, a couple of questions if you please? Does your battery stay connected to a tender and when did you buy your 2014? Mine (2014) stays connected and I bought in Oct 2015 out of a crate, but no idea if the battery was also in that crate. So far it's good, but I'm always a little skeptical of any battery, car or bike, that is 3+ years old. First sign of weakness and I replace them. Better here than some podunk c-store parking lot in SE Hooterville.

I have to admit, I don't leave it on a tender. In fact, I have never charged it.
Yea I know,,, no wonder it's low.
I've never used a tender on any of my bikes, and they last the normal amount of years, then go bad.
With the heat around here, they normally die pretty catastrophically...
Which is why I assumed this one was about done, and was planning to replace it with an AGM.

I do realize I can put it on a tender and keep it longer.
Just prefer to replace before it's bad. {as I hate the idea of it dying on the road sometimes}

I bought this bike in mid 14.

Ride safe, Ted

I live just far enough north (in GA) to get some big swings in temps (usually 20/105 degrees winter/summer-but only a few extremes usually) so I started parking my bike on a tender when I had a C-10. What prompted that was my lawnmower batteries were lasting about 2 years and I use that machine for one thing or another, pretty much year round. I began with that one and saw success, so when I got the C-10, the C-14, I did that one too. I've now been through three mowers in 20 years and replaced only one battery and that was before I used a tender.

 Admittedly, I ride the bike more than the "twin bagger" in the shop ;D, but I saw it as cheap insurance. So far, so good (since 2010). I'll get around to replacing the bike battery "just because" I don't like uncertainty maybe next summer. Thanks for the input. 
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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2017, 11:07:04 am »
Just sold my 2004 400 Outlander(ATV) with its original May of 2003 AGM Yusa battery(still working). Had to replace a Sears Diehard battery after 10yrs. of use in my muscle car. My 2011 Can-Am Spyder stil has its original battery.  I am a firm believer in battery tenders. These vehicles spend more time sitting than being used.

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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2017, 01:20:15 am »
Just sold my 2004 400 Outlander(ATV) with its original May of 2003 AGM Yusa battery(still working). Had to replace a Sears Diehard battery after 10yrs. of use in my muscle car. My 2011 Can-Am Spyder stil has its original battery.  I am a firm believer in battery tenders. These vehicles spend more time sitting than being used.

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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2017, 11:03:56 pm »
I highly doubt it, FSM says not to remove the battery top seal for fear of leaking. Go to Battery Mart dot com amn get a AGM big crank with 220CCA and it leak proof. Have this on my ZX14, put one on the KLR and soon on the C14

http://www.batterymart.com/c-kawasaki-zg1400-concours-battery.html


I also have a Big Crank..
I'm wondering if it's an Odyssey.




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Re: Battery in 2014 C-14
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2017, 12:54:10 am »
The original battery which was a AGM didn't last but couple of years. It was replaced under the org warranty. They installed an off brand which was a sealed lead acid. I replaced it resently with the biggest crank amps YUASA that would fit the bike. Happy so far and put the tender on every 2 weeks to keep the clock/kipass from running the battery down.
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