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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2018, 12:42:33 am »
I will second the Murph's oil filter protector. A few years ago while riding a pocket knife in the middle of the road was kicked up by my front tire and put a 1/4" hole in my oil filter. Oil saturated the muffler, front and rear tires and ruined all break pads. The smoke clued me in before the low oil light came on. The engine was ok but I had an expensive tow (I didn't know what had happened), and had to replace all break pads. The Murph's oil filter protector would have saved me much time and money.
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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2018, 09:39:16 am »
No matter what filter you use, I recommend Murph’s oil filter protector. I pop riveted a simple metal tab to it, and it contacts the oil pan, so there is no way the filter can ever spin loose.

https://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?products_id=410&osCsid=8nB04rL5Ce0xTpIufMIDN0
Would you or anyone else have dimensions for the filter guard? I'd like it on my itty bitty six fiddy Versys. I does use the same filters as a C-14. The exhaust may interfere with fitment.

Plus it will give me an opportunity to buy something from Murphs'.   :great:

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2018, 10:05:44 am »
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Been using mobil1 M110a, and had the SAME experience, even after buying a set of "channel-lock" style pliers to grip the filter end.  I usually end-up crushing the filter in very disturbing ways. 
Effort to not over-tighten the filter have been fruitless to resolve.


Not sure I understand. Do you torque the filter to 14ft/lbs per the book or does the filter tighten itself?

I had a hard time taking off the factory filter (like a lot of people on here), so I don't think it is a good idea to torque it to 14ft/lbs. I will do what I do with all the filters that install on all my motorized vehicles - snug it by hand and then a 1/4 to 1/2 turn more.

I do exactly what you do.  :great:

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2018, 01:38:00 pm »
Would you or anyone else have dimensions for the filter guard? I'd like it on my itty bitty six fiddy Versys. I does use the same filters as a C-14. The exhaust may interfere with fitment.

I put a speaker magnet on top of my filter (to attract metal particles) and Murph's filter guard fits over everything easily.
Dimensions are 4" long 2 3/4" OD..
  (if needed) It would be EZ to cut it shorter with a little patience and a hacksaw.

Polishes up nicely if you want to make it pretty for your itty bitty six fiddy Versys..

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2018, 01:43:05 pm »
No matter what filter you use, I recommend Murph’s oil filter protector. I pop riveted a simple metal tab to it, and it contacts the oil pan, so there is no way the filter can ever spin loose.

https://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?products_id=410&osCsid=8nB04rL5Ce0xTpIufMIDN0


Here is a photo of the tab I added to keep the oil filter from spinning off. Takes 5 minutes and two pop rivets. 

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2018, 05:30:37 pm »
Would you or anyone else have dimensions for the filter guard? I'd like it on my itty bitty six fiddy Versys. I does use the same filters as a C-14. The exhaust may interfere with fitment.

I put a speaker magnet on top of my filter (to attract metal particles) and Murph's filter guard fits over everything easily.
Dimensions are 4" long 2 3/4" OD..
  (if needed) It would be EZ to cut it shorter with a little patience and a hacksaw.

Polishes up nicely if you want to make it pretty for your itty bitty six fiddy Versys..

Ride safe, Ted

Thanks for the info, Ted, but I don't know about that whole polishing idea.

I did have to break down and wash her the other day to get my recent love bug collection removed.

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2018, 09:39:08 pm »
Yes, I know it's a sin, but thought it might be worth doing {once} before you install it.

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2018, 11:02:56 pm »
I use the stock Kawasaki filters that I buy 5 or 6 at a time off of ebay.  I usually get them for under $10.00 each.  They come in the Kawasaki boxes and sometimes come with new crush washers.  I have been using them for 56k miles with no issues on my 2012 Concours.

in the past I had a 2008 Concours that I used the Purolator Pure One filters (PL14610) without issue.  They were handy because my local Auto Parts store always had them in stock.  I used them for 30K miles without issue.

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2018, 12:57:27 am »
Yes, I know it's a sin, but thought it might be worth doing {once} before you install it.

Ride safe, Ted
I've got one on the way. The filter is a bit exposed on these bikes, facing front kinda close to the tire path. I do like farkles.

I may just polish it for S&Gs. It would be the only shiny bit on the bike.
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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2018, 12:56:12 pm »
There, I fixed it for ya..   :nananana:

I may just polish it for S&Gs. It would be the only shiny bit on the bike, for awhile.

Heck who knows,,, that "shiny bit" may even inspire you to actually wash it...   :great:

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2018, 04:57:25 pm »
There, I fixed it for ya..   :nananana:

I may just polish it for S&Gs. It would be the only shiny bit on the bike, for awhile.

Heck who knows,,, that "shiny bit" may even inspire you to actually wash it...   :great:

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Ride safe, Ted

Thanks(I think?) for the fix.

I just did wash it a coupla days ago. It should be good at least until the outdoor shower that seems to happen at Cliff's shindig in April.

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2018, 09:41:15 pm »
OMG!!  You washed it... Oh, the shame...    :nananana:
     See ya at Cliff's. Hopefully we won't get the stor  err shower this year...
          Let us know how the filter cover works out for you...

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2018, 01:45:28 am »
OMG!!  You washed it... Oh, the shame...    :nananana:
     See ya at Cliff's. Hopefully we won't get the stor  err shower this year...
          Let us know how the filter cover works out for you...

Ride safe, Ted

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2018, 12:12:43 pm »
HiFlow racing oil filter to suit Kawasaki ZG1400 A8F-EGF Concours ABS (GTR1400) 2008-16 Oil Filter HF303RC. Available from Ebay or Amazon.If you have a magnetic sump plug which are drilled you can tie wire the filter through a hole in the nut to the sump plug or not.

interesting..
(I'm missing the justification of tieing a wire from the fliter to a 'drilled' magnetic drain plug in sump tho..)

as we can now see, the K&N, and the HiFlow, share the same canister....hmmmmm......
coincidence?


Link to information on Hi Flow oil filters: https://wemoto.wordpress.com/2013/09/04/the-lowdown-on-hiflo-motorcycle-oil-filters/ Only TUV approved filter.Not so K&N.
K&N oil filters used to be made in Korea,they were excellent,but I believe they are now made in China: http://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall-alert-rappel-avis/hc-sc/2017/65116r-eng.php

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2018, 12:54:11 pm »
OMG!!  You washed it... Oh, the shame...    :nananana:
     See ya at Cliff's. Hopefully we won't get the stor  err shower this year...
          Let us know how the filter cover works out for you...

Ride safe, Ted

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 :hum:, something going on at Cliff's? Let me know when so I can be there.  :)

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2018, 02:14:39 pm »
OMG!!  You washed it... Oh, the shame...    :nananana:
     See ya at Cliff's. Hopefully we won't get the stor  err shower this year...
          Let us know how the filter cover works out for you...

Ride safe, Ted

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 :hum:, something going on at Cliff's? Let me know when so I can be there.  :)

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2018, 02:21:40 pm »
Cliff, mebbe I should explain.
   Even if you don't put on your rally, some of us will be there to ride Arkansas in the Spring.

Bye the bye: Your invited to ride with us... (as we'll be coming by your house anyway)..  >:D

Getting back to the discussion; While we're there, you can help us decide which is the best tire/oil/filter/etc etc etc...

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2018, 11:21:33 pm »
Yes, I know it's a sin, but thought it might be worth doing {once} before you install it.

Ride safe, Ted
I've got one on the way. The filter is a bit exposed on these bikes, facing front kinda close to the tire path. I do like farkles.

I may just polish it for S&Gs. It would be the only shiny bit on the bike.

The protector will not fit over a long filter when it's already mounted on the Versys 650. The exhaust is in the way, not even close. I picked up some shorty filters for the next few changes, we'll see how it works out with them. It will be close.
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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2018, 02:22:52 pm »
Arghhhhh!!

NOTE: If it don't work, {after you polish it} you could always give it to me..  :great:

Glad I could help,
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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2018, 12:07:17 am »
Arghhhhh!!

NOTE: If it don't work, {after you polish it} you could always give it to me..  :great:

Glad I could help,
   Ride safe, Ted

Polish or no polish, this guard will be on the next oil filter.


Maybe I have something else laying around that I can give you....Found it. Four quarts of used Rotella. It's even in a Rotella jug. You should be able to get a couple thousand more miles on it.  :great: :rotflmao: :beerchug:
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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2018, 12:18:10 am »
Gee, yer a nice guy.   :rotflmao:

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #46 on: October 06, 2018, 01:56:45 pm »
Gee, yer a nice guy.   :rotflmao:

Ride safe, Ted

I know, right?

I'll bring it next time we meet up or maybe I'll get someone to bring it to Jennings.  :great: :beerchug:
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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #47 on: October 06, 2018, 04:00:39 pm »
Uh, err, uh, err, yea, uh, err ,,, yea right...   :hum:

Ok, do that...  I'll be happy to oil yer tires for ya...

I think we've stole the discussion....   :threadjack:

Being a nice guy's, let's return to the regularly scheduled discussion:

In another discussion, someone mentioned their Kawasaki filter seemed to have kept the oil cleaner.
Has anyone experienced this?

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Re: best oil filter?
« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2018, 06:30:26 am »
Kawasaki OEM if your bikes still under warranty.
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