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Offline medic8008

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« on: November 08, 2009, 05:59:00 pm »
OK great day today here in the northeast sunny 65 deg had great ride.Now the but there is always a but.  In the center of the upper tripple tree just below the ign switch there is or should i say was a bolt. It came off while riding and hit me in the boot.Anyway now when I look down i can see streight through to the front fender. Met two great guys at marcus dairy asked them what this bolt is for. One says just a cap  no mechanical function the other says it hols my tripple tree to the steering(scary). Anyway I rode home about 60 miles no problems. Does anyone know what this bolt is for ? Thanks    Bruce  
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2009, 10:57:00 am »
Don't ride the bike until you replace it. That is the steering stem bolt and it should be torqued to 76ft/lbs. The only thing holding your triple tree on right now are the fork pinch clamps. This is NOT good. If they come loose and the top triple clamps lifts off the steering stem, you may find yourself holding the handlebars with them not connected to the front wheel.    Go straight to your dealership and order the part. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.            
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2009, 02:00:00 pm »
Oh, and by the way, when you get your new bolt and get ready to install it, you need to first loosen the left and right side pinch bolts on the upper triple clamp. Then you can install the new bolt and tighten it to spec. When you get done, then go back and re-torque the pinch clamp bolts.  
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2009, 06:31:00 pm »
This scared the bejeezus out of me and I don't even have a C14.    Though I doubt we'll ever know, it'd be nice to discover where (assembly or shop) the slackassery occurred that left this bolt improperly secured from the get go. Is this an issue that's common with the C14? I, for one, value and appreciate the ability to steer on my C10 and would want that to continue on the next generation C14.        
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2009, 01:39:00 am »
Thanks guys. Fred as you are a guru about these bikes i will take your advice and not ride the bike. The parts are on order. I feel this should be a warrenty issue as the bike only has about 800 miles on it but I would rather lay out the 30 bucks for the parts than ride insafely to the dealer.I do have a question though. The tripple tree appears to be aluminum and has fine threads where the bolt fits. I do not see any threads on the steering stem so how does this bolt hold the tripple tree to the steering stem. Am I missing other parts?  
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2009, 12:13:00 pm »
The bolt threads into the steering stem itself. See page 14-7 in the manual.    Several bikes have had this bolt come loose on them, and my suspicion is that someone at the factory is forgetting to tighten them. I don't think the dealer has to install this during set up, but I could be wrong. I would have to see one come out of the crate to know for sure. Whatever the case, somewhere along the way, it isn't getting properly torqued and I have heard from several owners that it has either been found loose or has fallen off.    I would press the dealer for a replacement part under warranty.  
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2009, 10:35:00 pm »
ONCE AGAIN THANKS ALOT FOR THE INFO.THE DEALER IS MAKING GOOD ON THE BOLT AND WASHER AND PAYING SHIPPING TO MY DOOR.THIS TOOK A BIT OF WORK SINCE ONE OF THERE TECHS SAID"YOU CAN RIDE IT HERE IT WILL HOLD TOGETHER YOU MIGHT JUST FEEL A BIT OF PLAY WHEN BRAKING." AFTER A BIT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE SERVICE MANAGER HE AGREED THE TECH WAS WRONG AND SAID HE WOULD EITHER SEND A TOW OR THE PARTS.I ELLECTED THE PARTS. CAN'T SAY I WOULD TRUST THEIR TECHS AFTER THOSE REMARKS.ANYWAY THANKS AGAIN.    BRUCE  
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2009, 12:24:00 am »
In a way, the tech was correct, you probably could have ridden the bike as long as the pinch clamps on the fork tubes were tight. However, I would never recommend doing this, because if it did come loose, it would have disastrous results. While 90% of the time you could probably get away with it, the 10% that it would fail would have some pretty bad results. I've done riskier stuff in my life, but I would really hesitate to recommend to others to try it.      
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2009, 06:48:00 pm »
Personally, I think it's the same guy in the Kawi plant but they move him around to different stations.  The dealer should check this stuff out but we all know how that goes.  We've seen that particular nut fall off or just be plain loose, but it's not a regular thing.  Mine was tight.  I had things fall off my C10 when I bought it new so I don't think it would scare me away from the C14.  

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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2009, 01:00:00 am »
Where is the C-14 assembled?  Can we blame americans or Japan.  Rick :blush: