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Cam chain tensioner gasket
« on: March 22, 2018, 07:07:31 pm »
Hi, Can anyone tell me if the CCT on a 2012 Concours is supposed to have a gasket, please? I took mine out during valve adjustment and there wasn't one but, when I looked at a schematic, it shows a gasket. Also, as far as I know, the valve kit I bought from Murph's did not come with the gasket unless I lost it somehow. Please advise. Thanks!
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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2018, 07:19:47 pm »
yes, there is a thin paper gasket on the cam chain tensioner.  When I did my valve adjustment the gasket was stuck to the engine block...  So check both surfaces carefully -- you may find it.

I was surprised (and disappointed) to see that Murphs kit did not include a new gasket -- especially since the kit included some other parts that I felt were unnecessary.  Mine was in "okay" shape, so I re-used it...  But next time I'll definitely make a point to order a new one.
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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2018, 07:22:53 pm »
Thank you very much for the quick reply! I'll check the block.
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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2018, 08:02:12 pm »
Why remove the CCT? Did you suspect a problem?
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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2018, 08:50:20 pm »
Quote from: Deepsea on March 22, 2018, 08:02:12 pm
Why remove the CCT? Did you suspect a problem?
You must remove the tensioner to perform a valve adjustment.
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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2018, 09:17:01 pm »
Not so. Ive done three valve adjustments on my C14 without removing it.
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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2018, 09:38:37 pm »
Quote from: Deepsea on March 22, 2018, 09:17:01 pm
Not so. Ive done three valve adjustments on my C14 without removing it.

Don't know what to tell ya, then...  That's a new shortcut, to me.  I'm not sure I like it.

Since you have to remove the camshafts to do the adjustment...  and that means you have to remove the chain off the sprockets...  you have to leave the chain loose/slack.  The tensioner is going to extend to full length.  Seems like you'd want to remove the tensioner to reset it.

Kawasaki service manual says to pull the tensioner...  So I do.  It's only 2 bolts.
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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2018, 09:43:01 pm »
Quote from: Killface on March 22, 2018, 07:07:31 pm
Hi, Can anyone tell me if the CCT on a 2012 Concours is supposed to have a gasket, please? I took mine out during valve adjustment and there wasn't one but, when I looked at a schematic, it shows a gasket. Also, as far as I know, the valve kit I bought from Murph's did not come with the gasket unless I lost it somehow. Please advise. Thanks!

I'm surprised, I'll shoot a note to him, and have him add it to the kit, as one of the people that gave input on its creation, I did miss saying to add it.. but, in all truth, its probably fine, and as noted, either stuch to the head, or to the tensioner.. and it isn't a high pressure seal anyways.. I never replaced mine during 2 intervals...
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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2018, 09:50:13 pm »
Quote from: Deepsea on March 22, 2018, 09:17:01 pm
Not so. Ive done three valve adjustments on my C14 without removing it.

Not trying to make a wave here, but I'm a bit surprised about that, as noted, it is a viable part of the valve service.. I removed, and reset mine, and still had to push hard when inserting it, prior to snapping it in place and having it "reset".. I still recommend removing it, and inspecting it at the least, resetting it and reinstalling as noted in the FSM. Like I said, even reset and retracted, it still offered some resistance during reinstall, I would hate to have too much tension on it, and wear those naughty plastic slider bits the chain runs in.. just my opinion tho, as I know you have been inside this engine more than most folks. So I'm not gonna say it "can't be done".
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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2018, 07:40:39 pm »
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I was surprised (and disappointed) to see that Murphs kit did not include a new gasket -- especially since the kit included some other parts that I felt were unnecessary.

 The kit was put together after polling several of the forum folks with track records of doing valve adjustments. No one mentioned the part in questioned .   We will be adding it to the kit and adjusting the price .  Any more parts you folks would like to see in there?


Thanks to MOB for bring this to my attention

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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2018, 08:26:29 pm »
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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2018, 11:22:07 pm »
Quote from: Deepsea on March 22, 2018, 09:17:01 pm
Not so. Ive done three valve adjustments on my C14 without removing it.
is too so.. :nananana:
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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2018, 07:44:03 pm »
From 4 7 2018 on the part in question is now included in the basic kit.

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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2018, 03:16:59 am »
Interested to know how you can remove the chain without removing the tensioner. Pulling like heck on the chain to get it off the sprocket?
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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2018, 01:42:57 pm »
Quote from: gsun on April 08, 2018, 03:16:59 am
Interested to know how you can remove the chain without removing the tensioner. Pulling like heck on the chain to get it off the sprocket?
I really don’t see the advantage of trying.
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Re: Cam chain tensioner gasket
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2018, 07:08:42 pm »
Quote from: gsun on April 08, 2018, 03:16:59 am
Interested to know how you can remove the chain without removing the tensioner. Pulling like heck on the chain to get it off the sprocket?

Removing the cams is no big issue, once the top chain guide is removed, and the exhaust cam caps are removed, that cam rotates freely and slides right out, just as will the exhaust cam... the issue is getting them back in place correctly, and snugged down timed correctly, without the tensioner clicking out ......
I've pulled the cams without removing the tensioner, but prior to reinstall, I pull retract, and reset the tensioner, and insert it once the cams are in position, snugged down, and all looks correct... even then, when inserting it the tensioner tends to release prior to seating, requiring some force to get it in there.
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