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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2017, 11:22:56 pm »
I hoped for just one more post...that would have been the post where you explained, or showed us how your flash deals with fuel cut.

Obviously, you dont have to, but Ivans posted 4 videos on the topic. ..it does not look like a big deal to show this, especially of someone has a dyno and data logger.

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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2017, 11:44:39 pm »
I hoped for just one more post...that would have been the post where you explained, or showed us how your flash deals with fuel cut.

Obviously, you dont have to, but Ivans posted 4 videos on the topic. ..it does not look like a big deal to show this, especially of someone has a dyno and data logger.

I ride my bike on a road... I don't ride my bike on a dyno.. scenery sucks..
Let's face it bro, if you flash a couple hundred ecu's, and have zero complaints, over a few years... then just drop it..
Steve ain't a person that has to post a half dozen "testimonies" on his website, to justify anything, and frankly, he does well at keeping tight lipped about what he does... and should... as his final outcome far excedes what is necessary to place him as viable.

I take great insult, as he surely does.. we haven't spoken recently about this, but its on my agenda.. that such vehemently argued crap is being thrown about, with the concept of "one bike" owned by the developer, and thrown in our faces on a daily basis ( oooh, I made a rhime just in time...) over this silly argument..
And still, you have no clue as to what Steve actually does program into the flash.. not a single solitary clue...

He should NOT have tonreveal his complete data structure to you, or anyone.. which Ivan doesn't do either, he (Ivan) only usesnwhat he (again, Ivan) feels would help his selling point..

Lots of people, you included, haven't a clue.. I mean. %1 clue, as to how this programming, and structure works..

Just stop the insanity / justification, etc.,  and enjoy your bike... frankley put.. let those people who can read, understand, and see history.. and a timeline... make their choices...

I've promised the COG officers and director, I would TRY to be a nicer person and not be confrontive this year.. but it gets hard, being the ex-tech editor, to condone this any longer.

Next phone call you have with Ivan, tell him to put up, and become an industry member, and to get online, and support his b/s... and drop the drivvel as its you, against a heck of a lot of members right now, that just see a pig with lipstick as being a pig with lipstick..
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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2017, 03:54:18 am »
Here, here MOB.  :great:
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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2017, 01:30:06 pm »
MOB with the KO... Gawwwd this was so great.  :)

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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2017, 03:53:35 pm »
Im not sure Id chalk up a win in my column, if I were flashing ecu's....

Look for it in your bikes. See if your tuner winning a forum argument helped your bike run better, or got rid of your fuel cut.

To prove this, all someone has to do is this simple test.

Put the bike in 2nd or 3rd gear and bring it up to 7000 rpm or so… close the throttle, and operate the kill switch on the handlebar  on/off/on/off repeatedly.
 
*****(do not touch the throttle during the kill switch operation)******

You will find that it makes no difference because the engine isn’t running.

The longer the decel time, the more time you have to repeat the test over and over.
Higher gears are better for this test because decel is slower and takes more time to come down.
You can hear and feel when the injectors come back on as you decel.

 

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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2017, 04:26:53 pm »
rcannon409-----just stop please! I have tried to stay away from commenting, but reading your posts on Ivan's flash is like having to sit thru the ads they make you watch before you can watch a video. You like his flash---we get it! Please move on.
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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2017, 08:56:11 pm »
rcannon409,

Have you ridden a bike with Steve's EVO flash?

Or any of Steve's other flashes?
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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2017, 10:20:09 pm »
rcannon409,

Have you ridden a bike with Steve's EVO flash?

Or any of Steve's other flashes?


Turbo, I don't need to....  I've ridden enough bikes without fuel cut disabled that I would never spend my money on a flash that doesn't include that.

(see my post on this board in 2015 that I have already referenced above)

You should stop by Ivan's shop since you are in his area and see if he would let you try his work firsthand so you can compare it yourself and see the difference.... maybe then you won't think that I'm an idiot.  :) :)

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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2017, 10:42:43 pm »
rcannon409: Dude, I can feel the troll vibes off you that just won't quit. I have this image in my mind of a Cartman type behind a computer asking his Mom to wipe his azz after a bucket of KFC skins and cheesy poofs.

Drop it, and move onto the next squirrel in your periphery. Oh, look, Godzilla!

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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2017, 11:26:18 pm »
This thread is doing nothing but creating anger.

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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2017, 11:31:11 pm »
This thread is doing nothing but creating anger.

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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2017, 01:14:47 am »
It's not making me angry. What it is doing is showing how narrow minded RCannan is. Without experiencing Steve's flash he believes he's qualified to judge it. That's like telling everyone how bad XYZ's PFM Radio is without ever seeing the radio.
  RCannon I thought you were a better person than that. Oh well, it's not the first time I've been wrong.


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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2017, 02:38:34 pm »
Oh, please.  Don't stop now!!! :popcorncouple: :deadhorse:

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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2017, 03:37:30 pm »
It confirmed to me that I made the right decision to listen to the folks here when I was looking into buying an ECU flash as it was something I couldn't see or explain.  I trusted these guys on this board that I would be impressed with it and I am still very much impressed with it.  Smooth as silk!  Thanks again Steve.
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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2017, 12:12:06 am »
    I am convinced now that it's a strategic plan. Use the advertising blitz method by bombarding the forum with infomercials. Of course you need to change them slightly to make it look like different infomercials. Thus you have titles like:

 - "Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash"
 - "Ivans performance flash review"
 -  or one I just found titled: "Ivans New reflash for the Concours 14".

     All simple variations of the same infomercial to get unsuspecting consumers to spend money on a certain product, in this case a ECU re-flash. The best part is we get sucked right in like the phony studio audience asking questions and getting excited on how the product works. Billy Mays would have been proud. Maybe not on Billy's level since I can't remember folks getting upset with Billy. Maybe the infomercials require a little bit more polishing before the next infomercial is released on the unsuspecting audience. I guess this one is more in line with the Ronco Smokeless Ashtray.
   Maybe if we just ingnored these infomercials, the Billy Mays wanna be may stop airing his advertisements.  ;)

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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2017, 12:52:04 am »
You guys are silly.
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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2017, 01:04:35 am »
That's insulting when you guys compare me to someone who's only worth 10 million dollars.

I figured Susanne Sommers, or such. Or, that lady who has the mop movie....and I'm pretty sure I could have talked about any other available flash, and been just fine.

But, this is new,  and way different than anything else that's available.
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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2017, 02:15:22 am »
How can you say "Way different" when you haven't even tried any other?
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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2017, 12:35:28 pm »
The software he uses is a lot different than whats commonly available.

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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2017, 12:52:03 pm »
U mad bro? *trollface*

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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2017, 12:58:21 pm »
   Back about 25 years ago, I had a couple Rottweillers. Absolutely sweet, loving dogs, but if you know anything about Rot's they are not to be trifled with.  There was this kid that lived next door, he was about 8 years old, and to say this kid was an idiot would be kind. My yard is chain link fenced. This kid would aggravate the dogs any chance he'd get. He'd yell at them and hit the fence with balls and sticks, and run up and down the fence dragging a stick so it sounded like a card in a bicycle rim. This made the dogs crazy. It was their fence, and they would go crazy barking at him. I used to have to go out and calm the whole situation down, and always tell the kid to stop doing that. He was very persistent, no quit in him, even when it would be in his best interest.

  So one day I hear this blood curdling scream out by the road. I look out the window, and I see the kid in the road, frozen with fear. He'd been taunting the dogs at the closed gate. But someone forgot to latch the gate. The dogs were out, and had him surrounded. I got out there quick, and got the dogs back inside the yard. The kid was crying and shaking, and had urinated himself.

   He never ever poked the dogs again.

  I probably posted this story for a reason.

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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2017, 01:35:55 pm »
So Steve,

The reason the story is posted because your flash makes a Concours go as fast as rottweilers through an unlatched gate, or it will it make you pee yourself?  I have to ad, I could not be happier with the service I received from you and the flash.   :beerchug:

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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2017, 02:29:22 pm »
It seems Steve has a LOT of Rottweilers these days. 
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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2017, 03:39:17 pm »
I guess the fact that I have always used a PC with Windows qualifies me to judge Apple,  even though I've never even touched an Apple computer. Now that is some twisted logic.
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Re: Concours 14 Fuel cut - Ivans performance ECU flash
« Reply #49 on: November 10, 2017, 06:19:01 pm »
The injectors in my old 85 BMW would shut down completely if you closed the throttle and were above about 1500 rpms. They would automatically start working if you coasted in gear and got below thst rpm. My 96 Toyota does it too. So i would think a bike like the C14 does the same.

Im sorry that I missed this, yes, this is exactly what I am talking about, I posted the videos so that if someone wanted to identify the problem their bike has, they could see this demonstrated, and know that Ivan includes this in all his ecu flash.