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Offline Eric

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Ebay ECU?
« on: September 20, 2018, 03:12:58 pm »
Forgive another newbie question, but I've been searching here for the answer for 30 minutes and haven't had any luck yet.

I planned on sending my ECU to Steve this winter for a flash, but see lots of them for sale on ebay for ~$50 and thought about buying a "spare" and sending that so I don't have to wait.  However, won't a new ECU be worthless without it's fob since the KIPASS feature is all built in?  Some threads mention 2 "ECUs", one for fueling and one for KIPASS, but when I look at the parts fiche I only see one.

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Re: Ebay ECU?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2018, 03:19:32 pm »
Just my .02 I dont have a C14 but SISf turnaround time is quick from what I have heard with the flashes I know hes quick with the C10 stuff
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Re: Ebay ECU?
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2018, 04:09:57 pm »
 I wouldn't advise doing that, unless you absolutely cannot put your bike down for even a couple days.The ECU's don't have the kipass info in them, so they're not connected to the fobs per se. But they are coded to the bike, and for security reasons the new ECU would need to be "keyed in" by someone with a KDS unit for your bike to recognize it. On top of that, the ecu's are Part Number specific, in that you will want to replace your ecu with another of the same part number. All in all, it's just cheaper and easier to have your original ECU flashed.  HTH, Steve
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Re: Ebay ECU?
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2018, 04:44:19 pm »
That probably explains whey they're so cheap!
So, back to plan B, wait for the snow to fly then send off my ECU.  Plan A was for a full AreaP system, but after reading dozens and dozens of posts about the trade-offs in power in the mid-range where I ride 99% of the time, I grudgingly admitted to myself that it wasn't the best route...  So, AreaP slip on, just because I want to be able to hear my bike and I don't like the look of the stock muffler, and a mountain runner flash.
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Re: Ebay ECU?
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2018, 06:54:15 pm »
That probably explains whey they're so cheap!
So, back to plan B, wait for the snow to fly then send off my ECU.  Plan A was for a full AreaP system, but after reading dozens and dozens of posts about the trade-offs in power in the mid-range where I ride 99% of the time, I grudgingly admitted to myself that it wasn't the best route...  So, AreaP slip on, just because I want to be able to hear my bike and I don't like the look of the stock muffler, and a mountain runner flash.

  I've re-worked the area p flash, no trade offs now  ;) Steve
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Re: Ebay ECU?
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2018, 07:14:23 pm »

  I've re-worked the area p flash, no trade offs now  ;) Steve
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Really?!  Back to plan A then!  I didn't think you could keep the mid-range due to the larger header diameter.  So I'll wait on the canyon cages till then too so I don't have to work around those changing the exhaust.
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Re: Ebay ECU?
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2018, 08:19:22 pm »
i have steve's new areap flash. love it. runs like a stripped a$$ ape and no flat spots. steve has hit another home run... ;)
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Re: Ebay ECU?
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2018, 12:54:26 am »
Crap yall  made me go looking at area p stuff now i want it. >:(
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Re: Ebay ECU?
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2018, 10:28:48 am »
Another SISF Area P flash here, running with a ZX14 Muzzy full exhaust.

I noticed no loss of midrange power at all, more if anything and now it sounds like it's as fast as it is!   :motonoises:  :beerchug:
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