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Offline Slambo

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First valve adjust observations
« on: November 09, 2017, 01:23:54 am »
In the middle of my first valve adjust at ~ 18,250 miles.  Definitely doable for a regular guy used to doing some mechanic work.  Like everyone says it is tedious work to get to the valves, just taking my time to avoid breaking anything.  Found ten of sixteen valves out of spec tight...7 of the 8 exhaust valves were tight.  Spark plugs looked perfect, will change anyway.  Plan to drain and replace coolant and do throttle body balance also.  Any words of advice for routing the throttle body vacuum lines I will leave behind for next time?  Fred’s videos are extremely helpful...definitely recommend them, although they do tend to put me to sleep!
Just thought I would pass along some words of encouragement for anyone thinking about doing it the first time.  You can do it.

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Re: First valve adjust observations
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2017, 02:08:09 am »
Definitely not looking forward to my first  valve adjust.   I just finished checking the valves on my V-Strom for the 5th time,  75K miles on it and the valves only needed 1 adjustment at 30K.  My previous one had 62K and only needing 1 adjustment at 15K.  Hoping  the Connie is the same as checking is a lot easier than having to adjust.  Obviously  it's going to be a lot harder getting to the motor on the Connie! >:(
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Re: First valve adjust observations
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2017, 01:01:42 pm »
Definitely not looking forward to my first  valve adjust.   I just finished checking the valves on my V-Strom for the 5th time,  75K miles on it and the valves only needed 1 adjustment at 30K.  My previous one had 62K and only needing 1 adjustment at 15K.  Hoping  the Connie is the same as checking is a lot easier than having to adjust.  Obviously  it's going to be a lot harder getting to the motor on the Connie! >:(

You'll be fine, just take your time.  Before I did the valves on my Connie, the only experience I had with valve adjustments was on a KLR650 and my KZ1000.  Do you have Fred's videos?  They help a lot with removing all the plastic, wiring, and brackets.  My bike had 25K miles on her and 14 of the 16 valves were either at the bottom range or too tight.  I spent the better part of one day just getting to the valves.  There's a wealth of info on these forums if you get into trouble.  Good luck!
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Re: First valve adjust observations
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2017, 04:30:37 pm »
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Plan to drain and replace coolant and do throttle body balance also.

Just be aware when you undo the coolant plug/bolt to drain the coolant, it will shoot out much further than expected. There are several including my self who got a surprise and pretty wet. Cap was off. Other than that pretty much straight forward.   
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Re: First valve adjust observations
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2017, 07:11:19 pm »
Thanks for the heads up on the coolant...good to know!
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Re: First valve adjust observations
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2017, 11:01:23 pm »
Amazing how when doing your own valve checks you find so many out of spec. A dealer checks them and says “all in spec, good to go”. Your findings are similar to mine, since I adjusted 15 out of 16 valves the first time.   Agree with Fred’s videos being helpful. 2x or More play speed helps a lot. 
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Re: First valve adjust observations
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 10:07:06 am »
I soooo need to do this at 18500 miles now, and I JUST had all the plastic off, including the tank.  >:(

If ONLY I could find a trustworthy Kawi Tech.

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Re: First valve adjust observations
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2017, 10:40:44 am »
I did mine at 26600. At that mileage the valves had tightened up a bit but none were out of spec. I adjusted everything to the loose end. Not a bad job but nothing I would want to do under a clock or in one day. Just take your time and double check your work. The how to video is good to have so you can follow along.
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Re: First valve adjust observations
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2017, 06:53:24 pm »
Nope.....Not doing it.  The tools I'm used to working with are larger than the entire bike.  Not to mention my patience is historically short.  I took mine to the only dealer in upstate NY that I trust back in October.  With just over 15k they did the valves the coolant, oil and filter, throttle and put new PR2's on front and back.  Thing feels better than new and I didn't do this  >:(
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Re: First valve adjust observations
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2017, 11:44:45 pm »
I also like doing my own stuff, but when I had 22k, I had someone do the job. After doing my own sparkplugs, I thought "no way am I doing the valves"!
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Re: First valve adjust observations
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2017, 01:13:16 am »
I also like doing my own stuff, but when I had 22k, I had someone do the job. After doing my own sparkplugs, I thought "no way am I doing the valves"!

Gosh, if you can do the spark plugs you can definitely do the valves.  You're 90% of the way there once you get the plugs out.
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Re: First valve adjust observations
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 01:40:00 pm »
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Re: First valve adjust observations
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 08:43:54 pm »
FYI, my once a year sale on my videos is now active.

Fred, I'm referencing your videos now (for valve check/adjustment), along with the service manual. Performing the work, this long Thanksgiving weekend.

Super helpful having both references IMO.
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Re: First valve adjust observations
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Re: First valve adjust observations
« Reply #14 on: Today at 12:45:33 am »
Rich (MOB), you seem to be overly concerned about anything I do on this forum, and you obviously have had a vendetta against me for some time now, and everyone on this site knows this.  You have done your best to belittle and berate me at every turn and essentially try to drive me off this site altogether. You are the sole reason I don’t post on here anymore.

I’ve had enough of you and I’m not going to put up with your crap anymore.  All you have done in the years I’ve seen you on here is insult people and try to make yourself out to be oh so smarter than everyone else.  You continually made folks angry in your very short term as tech-ed, so much that folks came to me complaining about you, and I let Guy know about it.  Ever since then you have had it out for me, and you take any and every opportunity to try to take a poke at me.  Anyone with half a brain can see through your veiled attempts and knows what all this is really about.  You want to seek revenge on me in any way you can. 

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Re: First valve adjust observations
« Reply #15 on: Today at 04:23:15 am »
I'm going to chime in here as well, in spite of going off topic.  I have not been a frequent poster, but have been a member of COG for several years.  In fact, I recently attended the Big Bend event and met some really AWESOME people (my first ever event), including some on the COG board.  I spent some time chatting with them about you Fred, what a great man of character you are, and an excellent resource to the community over the years.  They all agreed!  I met you personally when you did my valves up in Ft. Worth a year ago.  Although at the time, I didn't want to mention here on the forum, but you came ALL THE WAY down to San Antonio, not once, but TWICE to fix an issue on my bike, to "make it right".  Who does that?!  Who provides service like that?!

But geez guys, can we bury the hatchet finally?  And yes Fred, many of us have heard about this silly feud, and yes, it came across quite obviously in MOB's post. (nothing subtle about that).

It would be nice if we could all get along, as the great community we obviously are.  Otherwise, I think the board should consider taking some kind of action, whatever that's deemed to be.  Just my two cents....