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Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« on: October 14, 2014, 02:59:58 am »
For those of you out there that have purchased either, or both -- which would you recommend?

Looking at Fred's site, the videos seem to cue-in on several things that I either HAVE done, or don't plan on doing by myself (ie: valve job).

I have som extra Paypal $$$ needing to get used constructively, and either of these seems to be a good place to depart with said ca$h.

Advice please!  :)

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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2014, 03:11:15 am »
You defiantly need the manual. It has all the recommended work to be done and when. As well, it has all the torque values and everything necessary to take care of the bike. Fred's videos are great if you are doing your own work. I use both but never take the bike to a service shop. I would say get both, but I don't know how much work you do on your bike. Heck, you can always sell either one here if you don't need it!

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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2014, 03:50:42 am »
Hi,
      Get both! Neither are perfect, but ALL info is good in the end! :great:
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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2014, 06:29:46 am »
buy the factory manual.

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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2014, 09:40:09 am »
If you plan on doing serious work such as a valve job, get both for sure. And research this forum for additional tips.  You simply can't get too much information...even avoiding one little mistake will pay back far more than the cost of the videos and manual combined.
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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2014, 11:41:35 am »
I have found a lot in the manual which isn't on Fred's videos, but many common operations the videos gave me what I needed to be able to do them.
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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2014, 12:32:21 am »
I use them both equally, but it is definitely sometimes nice to see the task done and note the techniques that were used.  Fred's videos warns you away from pitfalls.

I do not always use the same procedure as Fred does in his video and viewing Fred's Video I usually play it at a faster rate than what it was recorded at because some times Fred's procedures seem slow and tedious.  Fred's video's are certainly a good thing to have.

If you are hesitant to tackle a certain task Fred's video's walk you thru a step by step procedure.

The shop manual is especially handy to look up fastener torques and other misc. specifications.
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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2014, 02:13:14 am »
agree, both is the answer due to the specific technical specs listed in the manual.  freds videos are fantastic, however. im a visual learner and being able to see a repair process at-will is priceless for me.
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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2014, 03:50:12 am »
For those of you out there that have purchased either, or both -- which would you recommend?

Looking at Fred's site, the videos seem to cue-in on several things that I either HAVE done, or don't plan on doing by myself (ie: valve job).

I have som extra Paypal $$$ needing to get used constructively, and either of these seems to be a good place to depart with said ca$h.

Advice please!  :)

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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2014, 03:29:41 pm »
Thanks guys.

Spent the $$$ on Dr. Lee's Kawi Svc manual.

Money well-spent!  :great:

I may still buy Fred's Videos as well.

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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2017, 01:45:44 pm »
If you are only going to buy one or the other, my advice is always to get the OEM Kawasaki service manual.

Having said that, if you're interested, I currently have my videos marked down for my once a year sale.
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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2017, 01:55:23 pm »
The manual is the "standard" for all service procedures.  All you need to know about the bike is in there.  What additional resources like Fred's videos do is fill in any gaps that YOU might have in your experience in performing the procedures. 

If you have to choose, choose the manual.  The videos are a nice-to-have.  The manual is a must-have IMHO.
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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2017, 02:08:11 pm »
Nice Bump Fred!

And now that I'm considering doing my valves myself......  :great:

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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2017, 05:50:06 pm »
So after reading this and getting a recent recommendation to get a Factory Service manual, I shopped online for one today instead of watching the Macy's Parade. OEM site says put it on your wish list and it'll send it to you local dealer. Also says they're out of stock on 2014's at the moment. Unless you buy a knock off (I won't) where else are you guys finding them?
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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2017, 07:30:03 pm »
So after reading this and getting a recent recommendation to get a Factory Service manual, I shopped online for one today instead of watching the Macy's Parade. OEM site says put it on your wish list and it'll send it to you local dealer. Also says they're out of stock on 2014's at the moment. Unless you buy a knock off (I won't) where else are you guys finding them?

They show up in the FOR SALE area on this forum often enough.  You can also find them on EBAY but be careful as there are fakes there.  Look for the proper "perfect bound" volume vs. one with a different binding system.  Yes, perfect binding is a real thing:

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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2017, 07:49:27 pm »
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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2017, 11:52:47 pm »
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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2017, 03:39:32 pm »
I'd like to add that although I purchased the paper version of the service manual I also purchased the electronic version which I find extremely useful. It allows me to print out the page or pages that I need when performing a specific task. This saves the pages from finger and hand prints and also saves the binding of the manual.  I recommend Fred's Video's very highly.

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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2017, 10:48:54 pm »
I'd like to add that although I purchased the paper version of the service manual I also purchased the electronic version which I find extremely useful. It allows me to print out the page or pages that I need when performing a specific task. This saves the pages from finger and hand prints and also saves the binding of the manual.  I recommend Fred's Video's very highly.

Did you get that through a dealer?  I’m not having luck finding that anywhere.
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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2017, 01:36:46 am »
Staylo,

I got mine from the dealer.  Couldn't get the official version online.  The dealer didn't stock it; it took about a week to get.


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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2017, 10:19:21 am »
Get both and you better hurry if you want Fred's video's. Sounds like he's done.
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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2017, 01:16:14 pm »
I bought the Kawasaki shop manual, and as a parting give to Fred, I just orders the videos. (hope he reconsiders.) It's way better to have too much information than not enough...

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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2017, 07:40:21 pm »
I bought the Kawasaki shop manual, and as a parting give to Fred, I just orders the videos. (hope he reconsiders.) It's way better to have too much information than not enough...

Same here I just got my order in, and I have the shop manual too
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Re: Fred's Videos vs. Kawi Shop Manual?
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2017, 12:08:05 am »
I bought the Kawasaki shop manual, and as a parting give to Fred, I just orders the videos. (hope he reconsiders.) It's way better to have too much information than not enough...

Same here I just got my order in, and I have the shop manual too

Yep, I've found both to be helpful ...
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