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Offline Nickrides

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Jerky off idle throttle response
« on: July 23, 2019, 12:34:07 pm »
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Hi Gents
My awesome, otherwise, C-14 has some quite jerky throttle response opening and closing the throttle While riding.
If I completely eliminate the cable play with this help?
Is there anything I can do?
Thanks in advance!

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2019, 12:48:09 pm »
1. Yes you can close the gap between the throttle cables
2. A reflash, all I can speak for is Steve's Mt. Rider flash it made a huge difference I rideability. The flash was a big improvement in the bikes street manner and a significant improvement in power.
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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2019, 01:34:05 pm »
Smoothness in throttle response was the biggest improvement I notice with Steve's mountain runner flash.  It completely eliminated the sudden lurch when you come onto the throttle from idle.  I do still have a little bit of play in my cables, but not much so I didn't mess with that.
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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2019, 06:24:06 pm »
Even with the flash, in my opinion this bike will always be more "jerky" on the throttle since it's shaft-driven.  I do have Steve's flash, and the bike has never had as smooth a response as compared to my old chain drive Ninja 650.  Still, I've learned to compensate for this by revving higher before an up-shift and letting off throttle more slowly.

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2019, 06:30:20 pm »
 Nickrides,
 This is a common complaint and yes there is a fix. Get it flashed and youll be amazed how much better you enjoy riding it.
  Ive owned a couple of C14's now and rode a few others. Tried everything.
  Ran a few different versions of Steve's flash and  I just got Steve's new Mountain Runner Premium .
  This is by far the smoothest shifting on off throttle C14 I've every ridden.
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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2019, 10:04:08 pm »
OK
Reflash
What is it and how do I do it or get it performed?

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2019, 10:46:27 pm »
Found the FLASH link
Thanks!!

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2019, 02:13:51 pm »
Nickrides,
 This is a common complaint and yes there is a fix. Get it flashed and youll be amazed how much better you enjoy riding it.
  Ive owned a couple of C14's now and rode a few others. Tried everything.
  Ran a few different versions of Steve's flash and  I just got Steve's new Mountain Runner Premium .
  This is by far the smoothest shifting on off throttle C14 I've every ridden.

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2019, 08:26:06 pm »
Hey Yo
So I spoke with Steve and he's gonna reflash my C-14 ECU
After the flash and bar back installation [ if they ever arrive] I'm gonna be rocking in the free world!

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2019, 03:27:21 pm »
Nickrides,
 This is a common complaint and yes there is a fix. Get it flashed and youll be amazed how much better you enjoy riding it.
  Ive owned a couple of C14's now and rode a few others. Tried everything.
  Ran a few different versions of Steve's flash and  I just got Steve's new Mountain Runner Premium .
  This is by far the smoothest shifting on off throttle C14 I've every ridden.

I'm glad to read this, my MRP Re-flash is shipping back to me right now. I can't wait to install and hope I have the same first impressions...

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2019, 04:35:16 pm »
Are you going from stock to the MRP?
I went from MR to MRP and love it.
If your going from stock to MRP, the change will be more noticeable than mine.
Report back with your findings...

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2019, 05:12:23 pm »
Stock to MRP as I've always put in 91+ anyway...I live in the CA Mountains but take runs out to the empty desert all the time, MRP seems to be the best choice after talking with Steve.

I'm hopping for the jerkiness to be smoothed out some as well. I liked on Steve's website how he said you'll stop bumping heads with your passenger..LOL! That's such a true statement on how jerky the bike really is.

I hope to get some riding time in next week...and will be sure to post comments.

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2019, 05:35:54 pm »
I went from stock, to MRP on my '08, and can say for certain, it's an eye opener...  :) :) :great:

I kick my own butt for waiting soooo long... but then, the MRP outshines everything prior, so I don't feel so bad.  ;)

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2019, 08:56:29 pm »
I went from stock, to MRP on my '08, and can say for certain, it's an eye opener...  :) :) :great:

I kick my own butt for waiting soooo long... but then, the MRP outshines everything prior, so I don't feel so bad.  ;)

I looked at this back before MR and waited because I live in the mountains and wanted back pressure.
Then MR came out I was going to jump on it but life got in the way.
Finally got around to looking at this again and low-and-behold MR became MRP...so I finally jumped on it.  :rotflmao:

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2019, 01:36:56 pm »
Enjoy !!
When you first ride the bike some of the changes will bel subtle..
Blasting away from your Buddy will be EZ to notice...   :motonoises:
After awhile your brain will pick up the changes and you'll smile {a lot}.  :great:

  for instance; doing twisties in 4th or 5th instead of 2nd or 3rd..
                     pulling away from a stop easily
                     shifting thru the gears smoothly

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2019, 02:47:31 pm »
Ted,

What is this "shifting thru gears smoothly" thing you speak of?

Light turns green, accelerate "briskly", reach 60, pull clutch lever, shift to 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th, release clutch.  :motonoises: :motonoises:

Well, I guess that is pretty smooth...    ;D

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2019, 03:24:14 pm »
I'm old, but not that old....     :rotflmao: 
       Unlike you / <evil grin>   :nananana:
"I" use all the gears and accelerate "briskly" !!   :motonoises: :great:

I have no idea how it's done, but the Flash definitely makes the shifts smoother..

Ride safe, Ted

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2019, 04:14:34 pm »
Hey, which one of us is retired ya' old xxxx?     :D    (You are retired, right?)

& I love the MR flash. Unfortunately, the above technique only works once in a while commuting.    :(   All those other drivers keep getting in MY way on MY road!!!    :rotflmao:   So, going smoothly thru the gears is a regular occurrence. Nickrides, the flash is the best farkle you can get for the bike.

Well, Vancouver is closer so certainly hope to get there. But the wife keeps talking about using all my vacation time to explore possible retirement locations... We'll see.

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Re: Jerky off idle throttle response
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2019, 04:30:59 pm »
Yes, I are retired..  :great:

Drivers on My Road "get passed" as I shift smoothly..  :motonoises:

"Yer not thinking [sneaky e'nuff]".    :rotflmao:
    ie;  Vancouver (and other rally sites) "ARE" possible retirement location's.. :)

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