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Offline Harry Martin

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KIPASS article found via FaceBook
« on: September 15, 2017, 02:49:41 am »
More interesting (new to me) KIPASS Info:

http://www.motorcycleproject.com/text/kawasaki_kipass.html

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Re: KIPASS article found via FaceBook
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2017, 01:17:45 pm »
Interesting....I would still rather just have keys in exchange for Electronic Cruise control !

BTW - if you have a pacemaker you should not ride a C14  because KIPASS may screw with your pacemaker !!! - seriously !
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Re: KIPASS article found via FaceBook
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2017, 07:39:58 pm »
thanks, a good read for sure. :beerchug:
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Re: KIPASS article found via FaceBook
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2017, 11:27:12 pm »
Interesting....I would still rather just have keys in exchange for Electronic Cruise control !

BTW - if you have a pacemaker you should not ride a C14  because KIPASS may screw with your pacemaker !!! - seriously !


 So the milliwatt output of KIPASS is more hazardous to a pacemaker than the .5 watt output of a cellphone ?

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Re: KIPASS article found via FaceBook
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2017, 11:52:28 pm »
Interesting....I would still rather just have keys in exchange for Electronic Cruise control !

BTW - if you have a pacemaker you should not ride a C14  because KIPASS may screw with your pacemaker !!! - seriously !


 
 So the milliwatt output of KIPASS is more hazardous to a pacemaker than the .5 watt output of a cellphone ?


Seems the antenna on the C14 is the hazard.

See these Interesting reads...

http://www.lifebeatonline.com/content/dam/bostonscientific/quality/education-resources/english/ACL_Smart_Key_Systems_101408.pdf

http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions/Arrhythmia/PreventionTreatmentofArrhythmia/Devices-that-may-Interfere-with-Pacemakers_UCM_302013_Article.jsp

I would think the energy spike would be the hazard, like an EMP, could interfer with pacemaker at the wrong moment.
Scary stuff. I think mostly they are covering their butts with the warning. Legal department and bean counters trying to avoid problems. Reading literature from several pacemaker manufactureres don't see a problem...but still, big K just trying to avoid trouble.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2017, 12:03:48 am by Harry Martin »
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Re: KIPASS article found via FaceBook
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2017, 10:58:16 am »
I still contend that KIPASS is a solution in search of a problem. What's the theft numbers on a Concours anyway?  Motorcycle thieves go after models with larger numbers on the road as they part out the bikes (e.g. H-D, sport bikes, dirt bikes). Sport tourers are not (usually) high theft targets.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2017, 01:02:12 pm »
Interesting....I would still rather just have keys in exchange for Electronic Cruise control !


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Re: KIPASS article found via FaceBook
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2017, 04:43:06 pm »
Very interesting about the battery being unique to the concours.  I'd like to know more.  People seem to be replacing the battery with whatever is inexpensive without issues.

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Re: KIPASS article found via FaceBook
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2017, 06:12:39 pm »
MISTY is a symmetric key algorithm with a 128 bit cryptovariable.

The key exchange uses Diffie Hellman  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffie%E2%80%93Hellman_key_exchange

For the amount of traffic passed, it is highly secure.

A few times I have had the 315 MHz simplex channel be desensed by external RF, the low frequency RFID in contact with the front key assembly has always worked.
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Re: KIPASS article found via FaceBook
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2017, 02:23:13 pm »
Not sure how KIPASS is going to keep your Connie from being rolled up on a trailer and driven away. Seems to be the MO around here.
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Re: KIPASS article found via FaceBook
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2017, 04:26:07 pm »
I still contend that KIPASS is a solution in search of a problem. What's the theft numbers on a Concours anyway?  Motorcycle thieves go after models with larger numbers on the road as they part out the bikes (e.g. H-D, sport bikes, dirt bikes). Sport tourers are not (usually) high theft targets.

it's not the concours they want, it's the zx14ish engine parts :motonoises: Steve
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Re: KIPASS article found via FaceBook
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2017, 07:37:11 pm »
How does KIPASS prevent that?
I agree it's a solution looking for a problem, meanwhile putting money
in dealer pockets. Not the gut working on the bike  but the dealer owners.