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Title: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: sininja on March 16, 2018, 07:42:26 pm
My 2011 was still qualified for another 3yr warranty extension since it was bought as a carryover but I declined this time...  between the lack of qualified or even adequate Kawi dealers in MN and the general bulletproofness of these bikes I decided to update to Steve's latest flash and a new to me seat I'm picking up tomorrow.  Still have an almost new set of Roadsmart lll's from last summer since I've been off two wheels due to some medical stuff as well.  I'm excited and ready to roll now!
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 16, 2018, 08:25:19 pm
Bummer....
For the price of another extension, and the protection it provides, for the price of a pair of tires, it would pay for itself when you need new tire pressure sensors...

https://www.ronayers.com/oemparts/p/kawasaki/21176-0748/sensor-tpms-315mhz (https://www.ronayers.com/oemparts/p/kawasaki/21176-0748/sensor-tpms-315mhz)

https://www.bikebandit.com/oem-parts/detail/kawasaki/21176-0748/b3207696 (https://www.bikebandit.com/oem-parts/detail/kawasaki/21176-0748/b3207696)


https://www.amazon.com/SENSOR-315MHZ-Genuine-Kawasaki-Motorcycle/dp/B00SHZY5YC (https://www.amazon.com/SENSOR-315MHZ-Genuine-Kawasaki-Motorcycle/dp/B00SHZY5YC)

https://www.motosport.com/oem-parts/part-number/21176-0748 (https://www.motosport.com/oem-parts/part-number/21176-0748)

http://www.2wheelpros.com/oem-parts/kawasaki-sensor-tpms-315mhz-21176-0748-part.html (http://www.2wheelpros.com/oem-parts/kawasaki-sensor-tpms-315mhz-21176-0748-part.html)


https://www.kawasakipartshouse.com/oemparts/p/kawasaki/21176-0748/sensor-tpms-315mhz (https://www.kawasakipartshouse.com/oemparts/p/kawasaki/21176-0748/sensor-tpms-315mhz)

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Kawasaki-Concours-14-TPMS-Tire-Pressure-315-MHZ-Sensor-21176-0748-New-OEM/726877069 (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Kawasaki-Concours-14-TPMS-Tire-Pressure-315-MHZ-Sensor-21176-0748-New-OEM/726877069)

Wow, Walmart????? :rotflmao:

And even then, its a selling point if you decide to sell the bike... if you changed your mind.
I simply don't get the cost versus the buying farkles thing, when you don't protect the bike the farkles go on.

Best of luck tho, and may you ride long and trouble free. :great:
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: sininja on March 16, 2018, 08:47:28 pm
there's no Kawi dealers in MN I'd let touch my wheels.  I do however have one of the best private wrenches available that does battery changes in the tpms sensors so that played a big roll in my decision.  There is no other bike out there that has this kind of performance in this price range with this reliability.  I'm keeping it for more than 3 years now.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Bud on March 16, 2018, 08:54:18 pm
Bummer....
For the price of another extension, and the protection it provides, for the price of a pair of tires, it would pay for itself when you need new tire pressure sensors...

[url]https://www.ronayers.com/oemparts/p/kawasaki/21176-0748/sensor-tpms-315mhz[/url] ([url]https://www.ronayers.com/oemparts/p/kawasaki/21176-0748/sensor-tpms-315mhz[/url])

[url]https://www.bikebandit.com/oem-parts/detail/kawasaki/21176-0748/b3207696[/url] ([url]https://www.bikebandit.com/oem-parts/detail/kawasaki/21176-0748/b3207696[/url])


[url]https://www.amazon.com/SENSOR-315MHZ-Genuine-Kawasaki-Motorcycle/dp/B00SHZY5YC[/url] ([url]https://www.amazon.com/SENSOR-315MHZ-Genuine-Kawasaki-Motorcycle/dp/B00SHZY5YC[/url])

[url]https://www.motosport.com/oem-parts/part-number/21176-0748[/url] ([url]https://www.motosport.com/oem-parts/part-number/21176-0748[/url])

[url]http://www.2wheelpros.com/oem-parts/kawasaki-sensor-tpms-315mhz-21176-0748-part.html[/url] ([url]http://www.2wheelpros.com/oem-parts/kawasaki-sensor-tpms-315mhz-21176-0748-part.html[/url])


And even then, its a selling point if you decide to sell the bike... if you changed your mind.
I simply don't get the cost versus the buying farkles thing, when you don't protect the bike the farkles go on.

Best of luck tho, and may you ride long and trouble free. :great:

Hope your abs pump lives long...as MOB said....wish you luck!  The prices of some of the parts on these scare me to death.....windshield motor assembly is $630! :-\ Don't ask me how I know.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: sininja on March 16, 2018, 08:57:48 pm
Again...  there isn't a Kawi dealer in MN that I would trust.  My private wrench flushes all my fluid every spring.  If something happens to pop up in the next three years I'm confident he can get me on the road for less than msrp parts at the dealer.  I'm confident in the bike too, these things are great.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 16, 2018, 09:30:16 pm
there's no Kawi dealers in MN I'd let touch my wheels.  I do however have one of the best private wrenches available that does battery changes in the tpms sensors so that played a big roll in my decision.  There is no other bike out there that has this kind of performance in this price range with this reliability.  I'm keeping it for more than 3 years now.

 :great:
I understand, and as you have an '11 model, your sensors should be first gen, and have no issue replacing the batteries...
As for my listings in my post, it was just to show others,nthat there is no "low priced"  OEM part, so if one gets damaged, the cost is what it is.
I was sincere in my comment wishing you the best with your bike, and I agree that when maintained, they can be pretty tough to beat as far as reliability goes.
Not sure if you visit the "other" Concours / ZG site, where other folks bring up issues that have occurred requiring warranty replacement of parts that broke, but as that site has been up and running longer, it does provide a bit more history of mechanical foibles..

Also sorry to hear there are no qualified dealerships in your state, that can provide trusted service on warranty issues, that saddens me, as I've been very lucky in both Virginia, and Ohio, to have trustworthy care providers when called upon... even tho I do my own work, when it comes to a warranty issue Kaw needs to be aware, provide service, and add it into the database as issues; when that part of the "system" is missing, it just exascerbates and hides the problems they need to correct, thru the feedback from owners.

Again, ride long and enjoy,
 :motonoises: :motonoises: :beerchug: :great: :great:
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Steve in Sunny Fla on March 16, 2018, 11:20:37 pm
Well maybe I'm shortsighted, but I let my warranty expire this year also. It had more to do with the fact that after having the tech strip the rotor threads out of the front wheel when the rotors were replaced under warranty, I figure I'd rather do any fixin' and at least know the work was done right. Steve
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: cuda on March 17, 2018, 12:01:44 am
Mine is a 2011 and I never wasted my money on a extended ... :nananana:

About 15 - 18 years ago I was on a airplane flight with two executives of one of those insurance company's

They must have been in the bar before the flight because they were quite talkative , they expressed to me that

most of the money goes  to the person SELLING you the contract  , not the Insurance company , because soo

few file a claim , I NEVER buy such  insurance .

PS I don't use a big aftermarket windshield  , if anything I use Copperdawg in the summer for air flow wind

noise does not bother me , I only drive local , till I retire . 

On the other hand I do buy insurance on such things as my Polaris RZR , because it has broad coverage like the

 first  $5,000 medical coverage , liability , accident ... cheap also.

I also have a million umbrella policy with my home owners ins. also cheap compared to the amount of

coverage. ;)
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: C. Moore on March 17, 2018, 10:48:46 am
I never used mine either. In fact I've never used one on any vehicle I've purchased.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: oldnslo_MO on March 17, 2018, 04:22:21 pm
i purchased the extended 3 year on my 09 for 340$.. at 84000 miles the bevel drive gear box shot craps. without the warranty i would have been out over 1000$ i was happy i bought the warranty. i have also purchased the extended on my 2016 for 350$, peace of mind is worth the money,only takes one failure and it will pay for itself, imho.... :)
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: barberman on March 18, 2018, 04:54:02 pm
Interesting hearing about these extended warranties. $350 for a three yr.?  When I bought my 2012 14 it had a warranty that had a year left on it. (the original warranty was $900.00)   When talking w/ the company (RPM) they offered a three yr. extended for $50.00 .  When I received the paperwork it was extended to 5 yrs.  So when I discovered my valve cover seeping I was happy because it enabled me to sneak in a valve check at that time as well. Kinda of a no brainer at 50 bucks.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: old n slow on March 18, 2018, 06:38:57 pm
A three year FACTORY warranty for about 35 cents a day....I couldn't pass it up, even knowing I was going to sell the bike. I think it is the best "farkle" you can buy. I know it influenced my purchase and it influenced the guy who bought it from me.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Harry Martin on March 18, 2018, 07:25:06 pm
My luck has always been this - I never have had to use an extended warranty on anything - EVER.

On top of all that, I trust my own wrenching.

So, I don't know on this one.
My bike warranty ends in June.
I guess I have a little time to mull it over.
I can buy a lot of nice new tools with all the money I have saved by not purchasing extended warranties.

Here it is 2+ years later and my FOB battery is just now complaining about being too low voltage.
My very first C14 repair to date.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 18, 2018, 08:58:22 pm
Interesting hearing about these extended warranties. $350 for a three yr.?  When I bought my 2012 14 it had a warranty that had a year left on it. (the original warranty was $900.00)   When talking w/ the company (RPM) they offered a three yr. extended for $50.00 .  When I received the paperwork it was extended to 5 yrs.  So when I discovered my valve cover seeping I was happy because it enabled me to sneak in a valve check at that time as well. Kinda of a no brainer at 50 bucks.


I don't think the plan you got offered was Kawasaki's KPP, it was another plan, which may not offer any real protection...

KPP is now up to $370 thru our special dealer offering, who has provided this price for many years to our group...

Contact info
http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-14-zg1400-general-chat-and-tech/gtpp-36-month-extension-for- (http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-14-zg1400-general-chat-and-tech/gtpp-36-month-extension-for-)$339-updated-2232013/msg108056/#msg108056

The thread is many pages, so reading the first couple, and final couple should explain all, and show how many customers felt about his offering...

Best of luck on you bike, ride safe and far...
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: oldnslo_MO on March 19, 2018, 12:16:08 am
My luck has always been this - I never have had to use an extended warranty on anything - EVER.

On top of all that, I trust my own wrenching.

So, I don't know on this one.
My bike warranty ends in June.
I guess I have a little time to mull it over.
I can buy a lot of nice new tools with all the money I have saved by not purchasing extended warranties.

Here it is 2+ years later and my FOB battery is just now complaining about being too low voltage.
My very first C14 repair to date.
been wrenching on scooters for over 50 years, have built several basket cases, the wrenching part is not the real issue, it's the cost of the very expensive parts that i like the warranties. :)
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Egodriver71 on March 19, 2018, 10:52:25 am
Mine expires for good next month.

I'm at the tail end of my 2nd extension.

I guess I need one of these now...

https://teespring.com/i-am-the-warranty?tsmac=store&tsmic=tavarish#pid=211&cid=5288&sid=front (https://teespring.com/i-am-the-warranty?tsmac=store&tsmic=tavarish#pid=211&cid=5288&sid=front)

(https://vangogh.teespring.com/v3/image/QvdfuklYMqcvgzkSmcF1jU5gu1k/480/560.jpg)
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: 4Bikes on March 19, 2018, 11:24:00 am
I'm in the 7th of 9 years for the warranty.  I haven't come close to needing it yet.  I replaced the TPMS batteries myself since I didn't want the new style that would have been installed with the warranty.  I seldom if ever buy an extended warranty.  As much as I ride, I thought this one would be worth it for the relatively low cost.  But as mentioned, the C-14's are bullet proof. 

If you really think about it, it's actually not such a bad thing to buy it and not use it.  Consider it a tip paid to Kawasaki for making such an awesome defect free bike.  Do I really want to go thought the aggravation of replacing the rear drive and feel good because it's covered?  Not.   :great:
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Just Cliff on March 19, 2018, 11:43:16 am
Buying a extended warranty is the same as going to Vegas. You're placing a bet that your bike will break. Most likely you'll lose, just like Vegas.

Never extended or needed mine. 

Cliff   :beerchug:
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Guest on March 19, 2018, 12:02:44 pm
I did the warranty extension game.  I normally skip the warranties because I figure they wouldn’t offer them if they didn’t make money...  but the forums were saying they were a good value on the C14.  Only thing I got covered was the TPMS sensors.  If I had to do it again, I’d skip the warranties.  It doesn’t help that I can’t trust the shops to work on my bike, anyway.

The only time I bring it to a shop, anymore, is when I HAVE to.  North Carolina does annual “safety inspection” and I can’t DIY that.  I had to sit quietly and watch two techs man-handle my C14.  It was painful.  I finally objected to management when they were continuing to rev/redline the engine in the bay and giggling.  Unfortunately I believe this behavior is par for the course.

My wife and I bought new cars, last year.  One of the dealers asked if we had “regularly serviced the trade in?”  Yep.  Then the follow up: “At the dealer?”  Nope, we prefer the services to be done properly.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 19, 2018, 11:33:30 pm
My luck has always been this - I never have had to use an extended warranty on anything - EVER.

On top of all that, I trust my own wrenching.

So, I don't know on this one.
My bike warranty ends in June.
I guess I have a little time to mull it over.
I can buy a lot of nice new tools with all the money I have saved by not purchasing extended warranties.

Here it is 2+ years later and my FOB battery is just now complaining about being too low voltage.
My very first C14 repair to date.
been wrenching on scooters for over 50 years, have built several basket cases, the wrenching part is not the real issue, it's the cost of the very expensive parts that i like the warranties. :)

And that Sir, was my point. :great: :great: :great: :great: :great:
I've always serviced my own bikes, I don't put anyone down for not having someone else touch them, its just the price of the part that drives it... and if a tech at a Kaw dealer can't change a tire, to install said replacement sensor (speaking primarily to those owning '13 and up models), and program it, well not much can be done. I lucked out and got new old style sensors when mine went titzup. I change my own tires, have for 9 years now, so no big issue for me to re do my batteries...

In the coming years, the painful fee of the sensor replacements and tech KDS programming of same, for '13 and up bikes, will again create animosity about this bike. Nuff said, BTDT.. got the Tee Shirt.
 :rotflmao: :beerchug: :beerchug:

Has anyone "excercised" their rear shock preload knob recently on a '13 and up bike? Just curious, as that issue was never rectified as far as I know...  now I opened the "I just bought a Penske shock..." and it doesn't apply.. can o worms...

I wish I was rich, or wealthy, I know, I'm  Rich by name, not by nature... :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: cuda on March 20, 2018, 02:31:25 am
Buying a extended warranty is the same as going to Vegas. You're placing a bet that your bike will break. Most likely you'll lose, just like Vegas.

Never extended or needed mine. 
 
Cliff   :beerchug:



That's cuz ya don't ride nuff. :motonoises:  garage queen.

Oh wait that's mine, 200,000 really?
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Harry Martin on March 20, 2018, 04:23:35 am
Bummer....
For the price of another extension, and the protection it provides, for the price of a pair of tires, it would pay for itself when you need new tire pressure sensors...

[url]https://www.ronayers.com/oemparts/p/kawasaki/21176-0748/sensor-tpms-315mhz[/url] ([url]https://www.ronayers.com/oemparts/p/kawasaki/21176-0748/sensor-tpms-315mhz[/url])

[url]https://www.bikebandit.com/oem-parts/detail/kawasaki/21176-0748/b3207696[/url] ([url]https://www.bikebandit.com/oem-parts/detail/kawasaki/21176-0748/b3207696[/url])


[url]https://www.amazon.com/SENSOR-315MHZ-Genuine-Kawasaki-Motorcycle/dp/B00SHZY5YC[/url] ([url]https://www.amazon.com/SENSOR-315MHZ-Genuine-Kawasaki-Motorcycle/dp/B00SHZY5YC[/url])

[url]https://www.motosport.com/oem-parts/part-number/21176-0748[/url] ([url]https://www.motosport.com/oem-parts/part-number/21176-0748[/url])

[url]http://www.2wheelpros.com/oem-parts/kawasaki-sensor-tpms-315mhz-21176-0748-part.html[/url] ([url]http://www.2wheelpros.com/oem-parts/kawasaki-sensor-tpms-315mhz-21176-0748-part.html[/url])


[url]https://www.kawasakipartshouse.com/oemparts/p/kawasaki/21176-0748/sensor-tpms-315mhz[/url] ([url]https://www.kawasakipartshouse.com/oemparts/p/kawasaki/21176-0748/sensor-tpms-315mhz[/url])

[url]https://www.walmart.com/ip/Kawasaki-Concours-14-TPMS-Tire-Pressure-315-MHZ-Sensor-21176-0748-New-OEM/726877069[/url] ([url]https://www.walmart.com/ip/Kawasaki-Concours-14-TPMS-Tire-Pressure-315-MHZ-Sensor-21176-0748-New-OEM/726877069[/url])

Wow, Walmart????? :rotflmao:

And even then, its a selling point if you decide to sell the bike... if you changed your mind.
I simply don't get the cost versus the buying farkles thing, when you don't protect the bike the farkles go on.

Best of luck tho, and may you ride long and trouble free. :great:


Looking at them prices...that is just highway robbery. K has us over a barrel.
I can go to Sam's Club and replace all 4 car tire TPMS sensors for less than the cost of one C14 TPMS sensor.
I believe in making a profit, but does it have to kill the customer?

This is why I would rather look for an alternative such as the Garmin Zumo and install the $70 TPMS.  :(
Still mulling it over.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: 4Bikes on March 20, 2018, 11:20:49 am
I run the Zumo TPS sensors.  They work great, have decimal place accuracy for the pressure.  The battery is simple to change and you don't even need to unscrew the sensor from the valve stem to change it.  They also alarm for low pressures and track each tire with graphs.  It's interesting to see how the pressure changes with tire temperature.  I still run the C-14 TPMS and they track together, the Garmin is just more granular, 

Front
(http://users.etown.edu/r/ruttersm/cog/Tirepressfront.jpg)

Rear
(http://users.etown.edu/r/ruttersm/cog/tirepressrear.jpg)


Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: KevinRLI on March 20, 2018, 12:29:13 pm
I broke a tooth off 3rd gear on my 2012. The bike was in the shop for 3 weeks ( Thanksgiving holiday delayed things too ) and they had to remove the engine entirely. Then split the case to fix the gear. It would have cost 2K+. Something to think about.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Harry Martin on March 20, 2018, 02:50:44 pm
I broke a tooth off 3rd gear on my 2012. The bike was in the shop for 3 weeks ( Thanksgiving holiday delayed things too ) and they had to remove the engine entirely. Then split the case to fix the gear. It would have cost 2K+. Something to think about.

That is a LOT of something to think about.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: sininja on March 20, 2018, 04:16:04 pm
I would consider that a very rare problem.  I'm confident my mechanic can fix with used parts for much less if it gets to that point.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: KevinRLI on March 20, 2018, 04:46:52 pm
I would consider that a very rare problem.  I'm confident my mechanic can fix with used parts for much less if it gets to that point.

Yeah? Well someone just posted on the COG FaceBook page the same thing happened to them on a 2015. Broke a tooth off a gear.  Maybe not as rare as you think?
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Just Cliff on March 20, 2018, 05:09:49 pm
I would consider that a very rare problem.  I'm confident my mechanic can fix with used parts for much less if it gets to that point.

Yeah? Well someone just posted on the COG FaceBook page the same thing happened to them on a 2015. Broke a tooth off a gear.  Maybe not as rare as you think?

There have been quite a few that broke 3rd or 4th gear. I agree that there are times when ext. warranty is a good thing. More often than not it's never needed. Just comes a point where you have quit buying extended warranty's & insurance.

Cliff   :beerchug:
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Jerdurr on March 20, 2018, 05:39:38 pm
I broke a tooth off 3rd gear on my 2012. The bike was in the shop for 3 weeks ( Thanksgiving holiday delayed things too ) and they had to remove the engine entirely. Then split the case to fix the gear. It would have cost 2K+. Something to think about.

Exactly the same friggin issue on my 2012!! Thank god covered under warranty, did the exact same job. I'm gonna extend my warranty come september. I was under hard accel and all of a sudden the gear came loose, rev's sky high, I was like WTF??!?!?!?

Then crawled home avoid that gear. Dangerous though!
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: sininja on March 20, 2018, 08:36:45 pm
I would consider that a very rare problem.  I'm confident my mechanic can fix with used parts for much less if it gets to that point.

Yeah? Well someone just posted on the COG FaceBook page the same thing happened to them on a 2015. Broke a tooth off a gear.  Maybe not as rare as you think?

lmao whatever.  a few failures in thousands of bikes??? 
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Roger B on March 20, 2018, 09:17:57 pm
I would consider that a very rare problem.  I'm confident my mechanic can fix with used parts for much less if it gets to that point.

Yeah? Well someone just posted on the COG FaceBook page the same thing happened to them on a 2015. Broke a tooth off a gear.  Maybe not as rare as you think?

There have been quite a few that broke 3rd or 4th gear. I agree that there are times when ext. warranty is a good thing. More often than not it's never needed. Just comes a point where you have quit buying extended warranty's & insurance.

I'm not doubting some people have had 3rd or 4th gear breaking, and it sounds like it is more prevalent than I thought before.   I'm just wondering why it wouldn't be more of a problem with the ZX14 / ZX14r, being how they are ridden.  Should be the same transmission, correct ?


Cliff   :beerchug:
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Harry Martin on March 20, 2018, 09:19:36 pm
Just got a letter today from Mother K...

Kawasaki Protection Plus...choose your plan:

3 years $704
2 Years $627
1 Year  $517

Sincerely,

Kawasaki Motors Corp, USA
800-357-8540

Where do i sell my soul?  :(
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: KevinRLI on March 21, 2018, 09:38:08 am
My 2012 went in for warranty service 3 times. 1st time was to fix an oil leak from the top of the motor. While it was in I had them do the valve check and that saved me a ton of money. 2nd issue with the broken gear as I said above. 3rd time was a short in the wiring harness. Riding along and the ignition fuse blew. Bike just died. So yeah it was well worth it to me. The cost however was not as high as someone just wrote. I paid $360 when I bought the bike to have the 3 extra years. 6 years total.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: cuda on March 21, 2018, 12:40:59 pm
I wonder what they dropped in your motor to make the gear chip, did they adjust your valves or check them.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: KevinRLI on March 21, 2018, 03:40:45 pm
I wonder what they dropped in your motor to make the gear chip, did they adjust your valves or check them.

It's a known issue... 3a valves were out of tolerance and adjusted.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 21, 2018, 07:31:41 pm
Just got a letter today from Mother K...

Kawasaki Protection Plus...choose your plan:

3 years $704
2 Years $627
1 Year  $517

Sincerely,

Kawasaki Motors Corp, USA
800-357-8540

Where do i sell my soul?  :(


 :rotflmao: ;)

Right here Harry...

Post 380?
http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-14-zg1400-general-chat-and-tech/gtpp-36-month-extension-for- (http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-14-zg1400-general-chat-and-tech/gtpp-36-month-extension-for-)$339-updated-2232013/



$359 for 36 months.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Harry Martin on March 21, 2018, 08:19:56 pm
Just got a letter today from Mother K...

Kawasaki Protection Plus...choose your plan:

3 years $704
2 Years $627
1 Year  $517

Sincerely,

Kawasaki Motors Corp, USA
800-357-8540

Where do i sell my soul?  :(


 :rotflmao: ;)

Right here Harry...

Post 380?
[url]http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-14-zg1400-general-chat-and-tech/gtpp-36-month-extension-for-[/url] ([url]http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-14-zg1400-general-chat-and-tech/gtpp-36-month-extension-for-[/url])$339-updated-2232013/



$359 for 36 months.


Yea...looking at it with a magnifying glass right now...
Is this the exact same plan? If so...I'm selling my soul.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 21, 2018, 08:28:55 pm
Just got a letter today from Mother K...

Kawasaki Protection Plus...choose your plan:

3 years $704
2 Years $627
1 Year  $517

Sincerely,

Kawasaki Motors Corp, USA
800-357-8540

Where do i sell my soul?  :(


 :rotflmao: ;)

Right here Harry...

Post 380?
[url]http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-14-zg1400-general-chat-and-tech/gtpp-36-month-extension-for-[/url] ([url]http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-14-zg1400-general-chat-and-tech/gtpp-36-month-extension-for-[/url])$339-updated-2232013/



$359 for 36 months.


Yea...looking at it with a magnifying glass right now...
Is this the exact same plan? If so...I'm selling my soul.


Yes Harry, this is the lowered price structure I worked with Pete to get, for the true Kawasaki KPP plan, the one you got the Kaw letter about, for $700+
Jump on in, the water is fine....
https://youtu.be/SBjWHBHlvAs

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 21, 2018, 08:37:48 pm
Oh, and I'll give you my permission to create a cartoon image of me saying that, and printing it on a tee shirt, if you send me some of them... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :)) :))
https://youtu.be/SBjWHBHlvAs


Lemme know, I'll send a good photo... :rotflmao:
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: sininja on March 22, 2018, 01:06:16 am
I would consider that a very rare problem.  I'm confident my mechanic can fix with used parts for much less if it gets to that point.

Yeah? Well someone just posted on the COG FaceBook page the same thing happened to them on a 2015. Broke a tooth off a gear.  Maybe not as rare as you think?

lmao whatever.  a few failures in thousands of bikes???


Not to be argumentative, but your "few failures" aren't a viable ratio to the thousand(s) of bikes you compare it to..
In reality, this forums C14 reports, and owner totals, pretty much represent much less than 10% of the bikes out there, so 5 reports of a similar or exact same failure, here, on this forum, does equate to a larger issue than it appears. Also, others on the "other forum" have had a similar total, doubling this. I'm not trying to say the bike is prone to this failure, but there are enough of them with this issue, and the linked brake valve body issue, that go unseen.
With that said, would you consider 5 instances, on merely a couple hundred(and that's actually stretching the figure... let's use 250 bikes as a working number)  an issue?
 :??:
As for the question asked by someone else, about the transmission being the same as a zx1400 model, yes, its similar, and shares parts, but those bikes are lighter weight, seldom loaded down with extra weight for travel, chain drive bikes.. not shaft drive which is heavier, and places more decelleration loading, and accelration load thru resistance, which can be the reason it surfaces in the ZG model more frequently than the ZX... the tranny in both is robust, but whacking a 2 gear downshift on the ZG will always result in more stress on those gears, than the chain driven ZX does.  Back in time, around the second year of production, Kaw actually did some "inspection and trade off services" so they could examine the wear characteristics of the bevel drive output units, some of our members were lucky to be part of that program, and I think the change over in that bevel drive gearing in 2015, was the result of that testing and analysys done back in '09-'10...  that ratio change was kind of misunderstood by folks, thinking it "assisted in easier take offs" from a stop, when in my mind, after seeing a few transmissions grenade when being worked hard on earlier models, it was clear to me the bevel gear change was done to reduce the stress on the tranny during "spirited downshifts"...
Food for thought. ;)

nope.  a handful of people on the internet having an issue with no true measure of maintenance history or use does not mean a damn thing. 
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Upstate Pete on March 22, 2018, 02:54:29 am
I let mine expire after the initial 3 year. Haven't had a problem to date (6 years on). Haven't had a leak of any kind. Only thing is replacing the battery's in the tire sensors. modified the front to accept a replaceable battery, and will probably do the back this year. only problem is the new replaceable battery disconnects at over 80 mph. starts working again under that though. Other than that I don't know what to say... run it till it don't run no more. These things are tanks. tranny problems haven't cropped up on mine to date. Running full synthetic everywhere. Motul 7100 in engine and mobile 1 for gear oil. She's been as smooth as silk. I guess you have to abuse them.

bite me if you don't like what I said.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: KevinRLI on March 22, 2018, 01:15:13 pm
I would consider that a very rare problem.  I'm confident my mechanic can fix with used parts for much less if it gets to that point.

Yeah? Well someone just posted on the COG FaceBook page the same thing happened to them on a 2015. Broke a tooth off a gear.  Maybe not as rare as you think?

lmao whatever.  a few failures in thousands of bikes???


Not to be argumentative, but your "few failures" aren't a viable ratio to the thousand(s) of bikes you compare it to..
In reality, this forums C14 reports, and owner totals, pretty much represent much less than 10% of the bikes out there, so 5 reports of a similar or exact same failure, here, on this forum, does equate to a larger issue than it appears. Also, others on the "other forum" have had a similar total, doubling this. I'm not trying to say the bike is prone to this failure, but there are enough of them with this issue, and the linked brake valve body issue, that go unseen.
With that said, would you consider 5 instances, on merely a couple hundred(and that's actually stretching the figure... let's use 250 bikes as a working number)  an issue?
 :??:
As for the question asked by someone else, about the transmission being the same as a zx1400 model, yes, its similar, and shares parts, but those bikes are lighter weight, seldom loaded down with extra weight for travel, chain drive bikes.. not shaft drive which is heavier, and places more decelleration loading, and accelration load thru resistance, which can be the reason it surfaces in the ZG model more frequently than the ZX... the tranny in both is robust, but whacking a 2 gear downshift on the ZG will always result in more stress on those gears, than the chain driven ZX does.  Back in time, around the second year of production, Kaw actually did some "inspection and trade off services" so they could examine the wear characteristics of the bevel drive output units, some of our members were lucky to be part of that program, and I think the change over in that bevel drive gearing in 2015, was the result of that testing and analysys done back in '09-'10...  that ratio change was kind of misunderstood by folks, thinking it "assisted in easier take offs" from a stop, when in my mind, after seeing a few transmissions grenade when being worked hard on earlier models, it was clear to me the bevel gear change was done to reduce the stress on the tranny during "spirited downshifts"...
Food for thought. ;)

nope.  a handful of people on the internet having an issue with no true measure of maintenance history or use does not mean a damn thing.

Full synthetic every 3000 miles and never abused. Whatever. I've already wasted 3 minutes of my life I'll never get back on this nonsense. Cancel your warranty and may Murphy be with you.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Gitbox on March 22, 2018, 01:26:55 pm
Quote
There is no other bike out there that has this kind of performance in this price range with this reliability.

<cough>FJR<cough>  :great:
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: TimR on March 22, 2018, 05:44:12 pm
I am quite jealous of those who never use or buy an extended warranty.  I was able to buy 2 3 year extensions through MOB's buddy. I ended up with a final drive leak which I'm sure paid for the purchase of the extended warranties.  And unlike many others I still have the original front rotors. But for the low cost that MOB was able to get for us the extended warranty for me was piece of mind knowing if something major happened my wallet was not going to be completely depleted.

There is a retired mama K tech near by who claims he was one of the guys the techs called if they could not figure something out. His opinion of K parts quality was less than stellar.  -talking clamps and bearings. Keep in mind it's been about 10 years since I last spoke to him and might even be no longer with us.     
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: KevinRLI on March 22, 2018, 06:06:42 pm
Quote
There is no other bike out there that has this kind of performance in this price range with this reliability.

<cough>FJR<cough>  :great:

<Cough> H2 SX SE <Cough>
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 22, 2018, 06:58:39 pm
Quote
There is no other bike out there that has this kind of performance in this price range with this reliability.

<cough>FJR<cough>  :great:

<Cough> H2 SX SE <Cough>

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

$22,000.00 +
And only a 12 month factory warranty....    . Extended 12, 24, 36, & 48 month optional...

 :hum:
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: KevinRLI on March 23, 2018, 12:40:43 pm
Quote
There is no other bike out there that has this kind of performance in this price range with this reliability.

<cough>FJR<cough>  :great:

<Cough> H2 SX SE <Cough>

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

$22,000.00 +
And only a 12 month factory warranty....    . Extended 12, 24, 36, & 48 month optional...

 :hum:

And out performs anything else in the Sport Touring class. You get what you pay for.
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: cuda on March 24, 2018, 03:48:08 am
I better sell my bike soon , I know i'm doomed  :truce: :truce: :truce:
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: cuda on March 30, 2018, 12:34:39 am
I would consider that a very rare problem.  I'm confident my mechanic can fix with used parts for much less if it gets to that point.

Yeah? Well someone just posted on the COG FaceBook page the same thing happened to them on a 2015. Broke a tooth off a gear.  Maybe not as rare as you think?
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Yeah if was on f g book it must be true ::)
You know this reminds me when I first got my 2011 (new) I grew up on dirt bikes then only street bikes BUT it was 25  some years since I last had a bike, so  to be honest with you it took me a few thousand miles to get the feel back like I use to have , one day leaving a stop light making a left turn  I flubed  a shift I remember It was ME not the bikes fault and it made a noise only in that gear 3rd I believe , had the original factory warranty so was not worried , the noise slowly went away, what happen god knows , but what I do know It was MY fault , I really believe many of these PROBLEMS are REALLY the driver's fault , I'm very honest so I admit it was me, well  If it had continued to make noise I would have used the warranty as it was the bikes fault ,
Just a true story .      :pokestick: I change my Royal Purple oil every 9 to 10,000 miles 
Title: Re: let my warranty expire today...
Post by: Deepsea on April 05, 2018, 02:36:42 pm
Never had a warranty. When I purchased my 09 in 12 it was already expired. Since I do all of my own maintenance / repairs it's not a worry.