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Looking at a new 2016
« on: September 02, 2017, 05:34:42 pm »
Scheduled a test ride of a new 2016 C-14 in black. The dealership had to service the bike for the fist time just so I can ride it, they are asking $12,998. What do you guys think? Anyone have anyone have any negotiation tactics I should take with me?

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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2017, 05:45:49 pm »
It won't be long til the 18's are out.  I purchased my 17 in May for 13k and some change.  I think you can do a little better than that.  Maybe somewhere around 10k or so OTD.

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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2017, 05:56:13 pm »
I'd say there is a reason that dealer still has a soon-to-be 2 year old bike on the floor.  They are not really interested in selling bikes.  I'd been looking at something closer to $11K for a leftover 2016.  If you're willing to travel I'll be you might find one in the low to mid 10's.  Shop around!
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2017, 06:01:00 pm »
Does it have to be a 2016?  Here's a dealer in OK that is offering a NEW 2015 for under $10K.  Do a fly-and-ride.  A plane ticket will save you thousands.  Contact the dealer directly on these EBAY ads.  You have to go there anyway to take delivery in person.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-Kawasaki-Concours-/322703024000?hash=item4b22995f80:g:35kAAOSwq1NZgeZF&vxp=mtr
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2017, 06:02:18 pm »
I'd say there is a reason that dealer still has a soon-to-be 2 year old bike on the floor.  They are not really interested in selling bikes.  I'd been looking at something closer to $11K for a leftover 2016.  If you're willing to travel I'll be you might find one in the low to mid 10's.  Shop around!
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2017, 06:07:52 pm »
Does it have to be a 2016?  Here's a dealer in OK that is offering a NEW 2015 for under $10K.  Do a fly-and-ride.  A plane ticket will save you thousands.  Contact the dealer directly on these EBAY ads.  You have to go there anyway to take delivery in person.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-Kawasaki-Concours-/322703024000?hash=item4b22995f80:g:35kAAOSwq1NZgeZF&vxp=mtr

I have been thinking of doing this... However time is a big factor.
This dealer has sold three in the last month. They are buying older unsold bikes in crates from all over the country.
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2017, 06:12:01 pm »
Any Northwest guys who know this local market have any input?
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2017, 09:09:51 pm »
Does it have to be a 2016?  Here's a dealer in OK that is offering a NEW 2015 for under $10K.  Do a fly-and-ride.  A plane ticket will save you thousands.  Contact the dealer directly on these EBAY ads.  You have to go there anyway to take delivery in person.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-Kawasaki-Concours-/322703024000?hash=item4b22995f80:g:35kAAOSwq1NZgeZF&vxp=mtr

I have been thinking of doing this... However time is a big factor.
This dealer has sold three in the last month. They are buying older unsold bikes in crates from all over the country.


If they are a bonifide Kaw dealer, and buying older crated bikes for the program, Kaw is assisting that effort, so id say that $13k price is too high.
Especially for a soon to be 2 year old "new" bike....
Kaw assists inter dealership transfers, and allocates funds to both the overstocked dealer, and the buying dealer, along with freight fees, un unassembled bikes...
They do this as a "bike in a box" ain't earning any money on service, or parts...
That said, the dealership you have been talking to is confident they can "make a lucritive profit" on their venture as advertised... they wouldn't be doing it for any other reason, and also doing so, raises their "sales platform" to get priorities on quantities of brand new current release bikes...
All in all, the only winner here is that dealer...
I would say an $11,250 price, out the door, and no "freight or extra charges rolled in" would be fair for all...based on Kaw actual dealer costs..
Also, keep in mind, Kaw warrantee does not begin, until a bike is sold and registered, so... picking an extended warranty up would be wise... but don't pay them $600 for it..... check the sticky post we have for reduced priced extended warranties... wise move.

Best of luck on your purchase, just don't be swayed by glitz and glamour, and a fast talking sales guy...

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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2017, 10:07:45 pm »
Any Northwest guys who know this local market have any input?
Mine was 13 OTD with extra year warranty included. I got it from Bellevue Powersports. Depending where you are looking, you could find a bit cheaper.

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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2017, 10:51:40 pm »
Does it have to be a 2016?  Here's a dealer in OK that is offering a NEW 2015 for under $10K.  Do a fly-and-ride.  A plane ticket will save you thousands.  Contact the dealer directly on these EBAY ads.  You have to go there anyway to take delivery in person.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-Kawasaki-Concours-/322703024000?hash=item4b22995f80:g:35kAAOSwq1NZgeZF&vxp=mtr

I have been thinking of doing this... However time is a big factor.
This dealer has sold three in the last month. They are buying older unsold bikes in crates from all over the country.


If they are a bonifide Kaw dealer, and buying older crated bikes for the program, Kaw is assisting that effort, so id say that $13k price is too high.
Especially for a soon to be 2 year old "new" bike....
Kaw assists inter dealership transfers, and allocates funds to both the overstocked dealer, and the buying dealer, along with freight fees, un unassembled bikes...
They do this as a "bike in a box" ain't earning any money on service, or parts...
That said, the dealership you have been talking to is confident they can "make a lucritive profit" on their venture as advertised... they wouldn't be doing it for any other reason, and also doing so, raises their "sales platform" to get priorities on quantities of brand new current release bikes...
All in all, the only winner here is that dealer...
I would say an $11,250 price, out the door, and no "freight or extra charges rolled in" would be fair for all...based on Kaw actual dealer costs..
Also, keep in mind, Kaw warrantee does not begin, until a bike is sold and registered, so... picking an extended warranty up would be wise... but don't pay them $600 for it..... check the sticky post we have for reduced priced extended warranties... wise move.

Best of luck on your purchase, just don't be swayed by glitz and glamour, and a fast talking sales guy...


11,250 is Kelly Blue Book on a 2016 in excellent condition so certainly shouldn't be an insulating offer for me to throw out there. The bike has 25 miles on it now and was all me I had to ride it across the lot just to get the anti-lock light to go out. They did include a 6 year warranty extension and do not charge shipping and set up. Everything out the door came to $14477.45.
My bank is great and they will put that Kelly Blue Book price in there face in my behalf they always have.
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2017, 11:13:28 pm »
Any Northwest guys who know this local market have any input?
Mine was 13 OTD with extra year warranty included. I got it from Bellevue Powersports. Depending where you are looking, you could find a bit cheaper.
How long ago and was it a 2016? I haven't checked with Bellevue Motorsports but there are three 2016s I have found in the area three different dealers and they are all priced the same.
With what I am finding I think I will throw the $11,250 price that Man of Blues and Kelley Blue Book say out there and settle for a deal somewhere close to what you got.
I got to say this could be tough I have fallen in love with this bike, it is hard to imagine Steve's tuning could improve on it much. It was impossible to keep a poker face when I returned from my ride with perma grim on it. LOL
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2017, 12:02:24 am »
Scheduled a test ride of a new 2016 C-14 in black. The dealership had to service the bike for the fist time just so I can ride it, they are asking $12,998. What do you guys think? Anyone have anyone have any negotiation tactics I should take with me?

Show them the add on cycletrader for a 2017 @ $11,688!

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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2017, 12:45:44 am »
Scheduled a test ride of a new 2016 C-14 in black. The dealership had to service the bike for the fist time just so I can ride it, they are asking $12,998. What do you guys think? Anyone have anyone have any negotiation tactics I should take with me?

Show them the add on cycletrader for a 2017 @ $11,688!
Got a link to that? My quick trip through Cycle Trader found prices higher than what my dealer is asking with the exception of one 2016 pre owned with 1900 miles on it.
Not sure I would want to bring up Cycle Trader to negotiate for a lower price.
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2017, 01:02:25 am »
Bellevue Kawasaki has a 2017 listed for $12,999.00 but buyer pays shipping and set up about $800
They don't show anymore new C-14s in their inventory.
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2017, 01:50:11 am »
"I got to say this could be tough I have fallen in love with this bike, it is hard to imagine Steve's tuning could improve on it much."
My '15 was good now it is fantastic. I have about 15,000 KM (about 10,000 miles) with the flash and I appreciate it more with every ride. So smooth.  :beerchug:
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2017, 01:54:22 am »
Try Sport Cycle in Rockingham NC. I got my "14 for less than what the local dealer wantd for a left over '12. What they quote is out the door. No BS add ons at checkout.
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2017, 02:14:16 am »
...Everything out the door came to $14477.45.

My 2016 C14 was $13k otd APR05, 2017 in Colorado
I requested "in the box", they located one and they charged $100 pick up charge from another shop
Color is important to me and 2 miles odo was worth the cost
I had to drive 150 miles to trailer it back home

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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2017, 02:56:07 am »
Scheduled a test ride of a new 2016 C-14 in black. The dealership had to service the bike for the fist time just so I can ride it, they are asking $12,998. What do you guys think? Anyone have anyone have any negotiation tactics I should take with me?

Show them the add on cycletrader for a 2017 @ $11,688!
Got a link to that? My quick trip through Cycle Trader found prices higher than what my dealer is asking with the exception of one 2016 pre owned with 1900 miles on it.
Not sure I would want to bring up Cycle Trader to negotiate for a lower price.
The one I saw is advertised by a dealer in Irvine ,Ca. Is not the OTD price but I got a e-mail from him with OTD , and if my local dealer won't make me a better deal with on a 16 I will be heading to So Cal soon for a 17!

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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2017, 05:47:32 pm »
Found another bike identical to the one I am looking at here locally listed for a $1 more. Looking like the final price on this bike is resting entirely up on my negotiation skills and shopping for the absolute best financing...
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2017, 03:55:23 am »
Here is a link to a picture of the bike. https://goo.gl/photos/8z7quhXMGiKFu8Xq8
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2017, 05:34:03 am »
When finance manager presented options, I had in front of me the following 36mo - 0%, 48mo - .5%, 60mo - 4.99%.  I tend to keep bike on average 4-5 years. So I chose 48mo, combined with 48mo warranty, I am covered if anything should happen to DuckTape during financing period.
I am a lousy negotiator, so I gave him my final answer - which in my head sounded reasonable - and stood my ground.
I am sure someone with better negotiation skills could have gotten better price. But the bike was right color - I didn't like green stripe on black body Connie - and my bum itching to get in the new saddle, I was done searching...

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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2017, 06:08:19 am »
When finance manager presented options, I had in front of me the following 36mo - 0%, 48mo - .5%, 60mo - 4.99%.  I tend to keep bike on average 4-5 years. So I chose 48mo, combined with 48mo warranty, I am covered if anything should happen to DuckTape during financing period.
I am a lousy negotiator, so I gave him my final answer - which in my head sounded reasonable - and stood my ground.
I am sure someone with better negotiation skills could have gotten better price. But the bike was right color - I didn't like green stripe on black body Connie - and my bum itching to get in the new saddle, I was done searching...

Cheers...

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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2017, 12:05:52 pm »
Hi,
       Let's see....

I paid $ 11,200 in 2013 for a 2012 with 1900 miles on it!(still had stickers on it!!!)

This was NOT OTD, I also got the extended warranty added on!

The main reason I was at the Dealership to begin with was I needed financing.

I only had $2000 to put down!

Later, work got a little more steady, and I paid it off ahead of time, but...

The financing, got me riding!!! :motonoises:

I try for "bargains" but will settle for "fair"!!! :great:

At that time a new 2013 was $16,000!!! :truce:
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
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Re: Looking at a new 2016
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2017, 07:13:53 pm »
... cheapest that I found... no added frills
https://romneycycles.com/In-Stock-Inventory/New-In-Stock/Search/NEW?mn=concours
Thanks for.posting this, just happens to be the offer I made them. I guess I'll know Tuesday???
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