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Title: Madstad brackets
Post by: andydude on September 12, 2015, 08:14:07 pm
Anyone here try the Madstad adjustable windsheild brackets on the C14 ?? Curious if it would put too much wind pressure on the windsheild mechanism ??    Thanks for any replies !!
Title: Re: Madstat brackets
Post by: lather on September 13, 2015, 02:02:54 am
i have about a thousand miles on them. No problems so far but I only run it in the full down position
Title: Re: Madstat brackets
Post by: AmphibSailor on September 13, 2015, 02:33:37 am
I run them. At first, used them with the CEE Bailey and now run them with the MRA XScreen.  Really reduced turbulence and smooth the airflow on each wind screen.  I rank them up there with my favorite farkels....

 :beerchug:
Title: Re: Madstat brackets
Post by: Conniemike on September 13, 2015, 02:34:53 am
I put them on about a month ago. Maybe 1500 or 2k miles. I really like them. I also have the laminar lip with the stock shield. The Madstats have been the biggest improvement to the wind problems. Sometimes now it's almost too quiet. I never raise the shield at all anymore. Being able to change the angle made a huge difference.
                                                                             Mike
Title: Re: Madstat brackets
Post by: andydude on September 13, 2015, 11:55:55 am
Thank you for the comments guys , sounds like a good product !!
Title: Re: Madstat brackets
Post by: Chewy on September 13, 2015, 06:25:12 pm
Stupid question What are mad stat brackets and where do ya find them Have 3 bikes and Connie does have the most wind buffeting on helmet Thanks
Title: Re: Madstat brackets
Post by: andydude on September 13, 2015, 10:07:28 pm
Sorry, i had misspelled it : www.Madstad.com (http://www.Madstad.com)
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Dave on September 14, 2015, 03:50:00 pm
I put these on about a month ago.  Stock windshield.  Drastic reduction in wind buffeting at interstate speed.  I went from wearing ear plugs to not needing them at all. 
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: dlama on September 15, 2015, 03:31:00 am
I have also had great success with the Madstad Brackets. I did a two up trip to California from East Texas with the wife after adding the Madstad brackets. The comfort increase was amazing but not perfect. Then I added an Aeroflow tall windshield and have found the best combination for my use. Plenty of air for summer but NO buffeting. The adjustment stays down almost all the time. I am 6ft tall and have a taller than stock seat. This farkle was the final add on that made my Connie a fantastic long distance touring machine. Less sporty, but now I can eat the miles in big chunks, day after day...
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Waxbean on September 16, 2015, 03:07:58 am
These comments put me over the top and I ordered a set today. I hope I like them.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Gibby on September 16, 2015, 05:00:00 am
I'm curious about rain protection with more of a gap on the low end.  I understand this improves/smoothes the aerodynamics. Does anyone have any input about rain protection?

Gibby
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Debs on September 16, 2015, 06:25:17 am
Can someone post some pics of the set up.. I would be interested to see what they look like on the bike.

Thanks

 :)
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: lather on September 16, 2015, 01:04:51 pm
I'm curious about rain protection with more of a gap on the low end.  I understand this improves/smoothes the aerodynamics. Does anyone have any input about rain protection?

Gibby
I had same concern. Rode last week in some light to moderate rain. No noticeable loss of protection from the rain.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Steve in Sunny Fla on September 16, 2015, 01:30:21 pm
Interestingly, we have a fellow Cogger who now works at Madstad... I just called him and told him about this thread  :great: Steve
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Capo on September 16, 2015, 03:57:53 pm
Madstad appreciates all the positive feedback from COG. As far as pics I believe that on the Madstad website there is at least one, but lets see some real time cogger pics! Thanks again!
Capo
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Dave on September 16, 2015, 04:32:44 pm
I have before and after pics and can post them when I get home.  I can also attest to there being little difference(loss) in rain protection.  My first interstate trip out using them I was caught in a ridiculous rain storm for over an hour at night.  Granted your still going to get wet.... :(   
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Dave on September 17, 2015, 12:34:24 am
I have before and after pics and can post them when I get home.  I can also attest to there being little difference(loss) in rain protection.  My first interstate trip out using them I was caught in a ridiculous rain storm for over an hour at night.  Granted your still going to get wet.... :(   
Here you go folks.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: dlama on September 21, 2015, 04:00:30 am
(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/dlama0514/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/A7F14357-A728-4F71-90CB-52879784E3FF_zpsolnscu2n.jpg) (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/dlama0514/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/A7F14357-A728-4F71-90CB-52879784E3FF_zpsolnscu2n.jpg.html)

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(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/dlama0514/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/D27461DE-0DCE-4E8D-A6E9-7758610B211B_zpsq8abzim7.jpg) (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/dlama0514/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/D27461DE-0DCE-4E8D-A6E9-7758610B211B_zpsq8abzim7.jpg.html)

(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u387/dlama0514/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/B9EE20F6-E44F-4019-B00F-A9BF3936FD63_zpsewltkbda.jpg) (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/dlama0514/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-07/B9EE20F6-E44F-4019-B00F-A9BF3936FD63_zpsewltkbda.jpg.html)

With the OEM windshield I rode through a couple rainstorms. It almost seems impossible but the air gap under the MadStad bracket does not have a significant negative impact on dust, rain, or bugs coming through to hit me behind the windshield. The air is shooting up so hard behind the windshield it channels everything over your head at any cruising speed.

After installing the Aeroflow on top of the MadStad bracket the benefits increased with no negatives for me personally. I have been in flash floods and several showers both light and heavy and the air gap between the windshield and the fairing merely blows the water up the inside of the Aeroflow and shoots it well over my head and of my pillion.

There is a change in the look of the bike but I do not find it offensive, ugly or even ungainly. After enjoying the benefits and seeing all of the changes to the C14 made for long distance riding I am perfectly satisfied with the bike and hope to put another 75,000 miles on it over the next 5 years.

The MadStad bracket is one of the best things I ever did to modify this fine machine. Anyone considering the change that needs less buffeting in the cockpit might consider this $100 item quite a bargain for the resulting quiet ride and comfort of better wind management.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Debs on September 24, 2015, 10:56:36 pm
Sent them an email to see if they ship to the UK but no reply..  :38:
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Max on September 25, 2015, 04:47:56 pm
just ordered a set for caraxes,  the forward adjustment may be just what the cut down factory short screen needs.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Waxbean on November 16, 2015, 04:46:36 pm
So got about 400 miles on it now with the stock shield. It was way better. May try it withe MRA shield in the spring.  Still vast improvement but disappointed with the mounting of it. Downside is the bracket is made with three 6mm holes on each side and it should be 5mm, 6mm, 5mm so as not to be sloppy. (I made special 5mm bolts with a 6mm short shoulder to fix) Also don't like the way you secure the plastic windshield holders by putting a bolt and washer sloppily on the outside of the plastic. (had to make shouldered inserts to fit inside stock holes). Also the rubber screw plugs pulls up thru the windshield so added plastic spacers in the windshield hole to keep this from happening. And lastly the middle bolt comes with a double plastic washer that  has a too large outside diameter for the rubber gasket to slide over. (fixed with a one piece washer with the proper 17.5mm diameter).
So all in all nice brackets. Good improvement for buffeting. Piss poor thought put into mounting.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: MikeB_CA on November 16, 2015, 05:22:47 pm
Madstad + MRA X-creen = best!

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a209/mikeb2411/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/20150815_173920_zpsqcdkt192.jpg) (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/mikeb2411/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/20150815_173920_zpsqcdkt192.jpg.html)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a209/mikeb2411/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/20150815_174007_zpslrxbilpn.jpg) (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/mikeb2411/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/20150815_174007_zpslrxbilpn.jpg.html)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a209/mikeb2411/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/20150815_173907_zpsd3u0yoat.jpg) (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/mikeb2411/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/20150815_173907_zpsd3u0yoat.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: andydude on November 16, 2015, 10:09:04 pm
Thank you guys for all the great write ups and pics !! This seems like a very worthwhile mod !! I'll be looking at getting one for next riding season !!  :great:
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: pechorin75 on November 17, 2015, 11:08:25 pm
Still vast improvement but disappointed with the mounting of it.

Sort of my experience as well. I kept thinking I must not have gotten the correct hardware. In the end the shield and brackets seemed secure, and I had enough bolts of the right sizes, but it wasn't really confidence inspiring. There were like 10 pieces of hardware left over. I'm all for spares, but this seemed like a random assortment.

Anyway, that aside, it actually makes the stock windshield usable, so I'm pretty happy with it. I'm going to try a CalSci Large-Wide here in the next week and see how that goes. 
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Hiddenmickey on November 18, 2015, 03:00:48 am
I ordered a set and received them in about a month. After reading the instructions, the hardware kit seemed wrong.  Nothing matched on the parts list.  I emailed Madstad and sent pictures.  I got no reply, but about 5 days later I received an envelope in the mail with more nuts and bolts and stuff.  There was no further explanation or instruction.  The new hardware also did not match with the list on the instructions.  Mixing the old hardware with the new stuff also did not match what I was supposed to have.  I emailed again with no response.  I called with no answer on their end.  I emailed for a return authorization if they can't help me with the hardware. They promptly issued a return number, without any question or offer of help.  They also promptly refunded my money.  I am so disappointed.  The brackets themselves seemed very well made, and I was looking forward to the improvement on the bike.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Skiee on November 18, 2015, 09:40:12 am
I ordered a set and received them in about a month. After reading the instructions, the hardware kit seemed wrong.  Nothing matched on the parts list.  I emailed Madstad and sent pictures.  I got no reply, but about 5 days later I received an envelope in the mail with more nuts and bolts and stuff.  There was no further explanation or instruction.  The new hardware also did not match with the list on the instructions.  Mixing the old hardware with the new stuff also did not match what I was supposed to have.  I emailed again with no response.  I called with no answer on their end.  I emailed for a return authorization if they can't help me with the hardware. They promptly issued a return number, without any question or offer of help.  They also promptly refunded my money.  I am so disappointed.  The brackets themselves seemed very well made, and I was looking forward to the improvement on the bike.
Pretty much the same experience I had. I chose not to contact them and find the bolts myself.

Norm
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: pechorin75 on November 18, 2015, 03:09:04 pm
I think I saw in another thread that they were moving or something last month, so that probably explains the difficulty with contact. My brackets shipped the day after I ordered them....only problem I had was the hardware.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: lather on November 19, 2015, 03:28:19 pm
I ordered a set and received them in about a month. After reading the instructions, the hardware kit seemed wrong.  Nothing matched on the parts list.  I emailed Madstad and sent pictures.  I got no reply, but about 5 days later I received an envelope in the mail with more nuts and bolts and stuff.  There was no further explanation or instruction.  The new hardware also did not match with the list on the instructions.  Mixing the old hardware with the new stuff also did not match what I was supposed to have.  I emailed again with no response.  I called with no answer on their end.  I emailed for a return authorization if they can't help me with the hardware. They promptly issued a return number, without any question or offer of help.  They also promptly refunded my money.  I am so disappointed.  The brackets themselves seemed very well made, and I was looking forward to the improvement on the bike.
Pretty much the same experience I had. I chose not to contact them and find the bolts myself.

Norm

MY hardware also did not match the instructions but I was able to install with what they included. By the way my left adjusting knob vibrated loose and was lost. A new knob is only a  3 or 4 bucks but shipping was $24! I just put a suitable allen head bolt on since I never adjust it.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Gibby on November 19, 2015, 04:37:47 pm
This is very disappointing to hear.  I was hesitant to pay so much for mere brackets but really close to pulling the trigger.  For that kind of money though I refuse to buy sub par products even if it's just the hardware.   Really too bad, guess I'll just wait until they get their act together.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Old Steve on November 23, 2015, 12:28:25 am
I'm having a very similar experience with the non-matching hardware.  I chalked it up to having kits for umpteen different bikes and only umpteen/2 bins to keep hardware in.  Now I'm getting nervous.  I sent an email to support@madstad describing the situation.  I'll update when I hear back from them.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Capo on November 23, 2015, 09:28:31 pm
As a Concours owner end an employee of Madstad I will make it my personal issue to get to the bottom of the  C14 dissatisfaction.  there is nothing manufactured by Madstad that is not of the finest craftsmanship,  it's possible that errors can be made between the printing of an instruction manual and the list of required hardware for an installation,  so if you could please feel free to PM  with any further issues and I will do my best to PM anyone who has made a complaint thus far,  I have tens of thousands of miles on my Madstad products,  and I really don't see any legitimate complaint about craftsmanship or performance happening with one of these systems.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Old Steve on November 24, 2015, 01:29:56 am
As a Concours owner end an employee of Madstad I will make it my personal issue to get to the bottom of the  C14 dissatisfaction.  there is nothing manufactured by Madstad that is not of the finest craftsmanship,  what mistakes can be made between the printing of an instruction manual and the required hardware for an installation,  so if you could please feel free to PM  with any further issues and I will do my best to PM anyone who has made a complaint thus far,  I have tens of thousands of miles on my Madstad products,  and I really don't see any legitimate complaint about craftsmanship or performance happening with one of these systems.

Hi James,
Thanks - PM sent.  The brackets look badass.  I think I just got the wrong bag of screws.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Capo on November 24, 2015, 02:41:21 pm
Ok folks there was a discrepancy in the list of hardware on the instruction manual in the list of hardware that we provide for that installation. As we're doing an installation on a Concours 1400 tomorrow morning there will be a revised and corrected list of hardware that is provided with  your purchase. thank you very much for your patience in allowing us to deal with this issue.

 
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Alan_Yucius_FL on November 24, 2015, 05:16:07 pm
As a Concours owner end an employee of Madstad I will make it my personal issue to get to the bottom of the  C14 dissatisfaction.  there is nothing manufactured by Madstad that is not of the finest craftsmanship,  it's possible that errors can be made between the printing of an instruction manual and the list of required hardware for an installation,  so if you could please feel free to PM  with any further issues and I will do my best to PM anyone who has made a complaint thus far,  I have tens of thousands of miles on my Madstad products,  and I really don't see any legitimate complaint about craftsmanship or performance happening with one of these systems.


  James,   After you get the HARDWARE ISSUE straightened out, what are the chances of doing a GROUP BUY RATE   for COG MEMBERS??  I would be more interested if the price was say, 20% less.  Maybe sales would double on the brackets!!   Pass it along to upper management.
                           Thanks   ALAN in S. Fl    ;)
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Gibby on November 24, 2015, 05:48:13 pm
As a Concours owner end an employee of Madstad I will make it my personal issue to get to the bottom of the  C14 dissatisfaction.  there is nothing manufactured by Madstad that is not of the finest craftsmanship,  it's possible that errors can be made between the printing of an instruction manual and the list of required hardware for an installation,  so if you could please feel free to PM  with any further issues and I will do my best to PM anyone who has made a complaint thus far,  I have tens of thousands of miles on my Madstad products,  and I really don't see any legitimate complaint about craftsmanship or performance happening with one of these systems.


  James,   After you get the HARDWARE ISSUE straightened out, what are the chances of doing a GROUP BUY RATE   for COG MEMBERS??  I would be more interested if the price was say, 20% less.  Maybe sales would double on the brackets!!   Pass it along to upper management.
                           Thanks   ALAN in S. Fl    ;)

+1 and Roger that. 

If the hardware issue is resolved and group buy were a go you could count me in.   :beerchug:
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Jeff on November 24, 2015, 07:05:24 pm
+1 on the count me in if the hardware issue is resolved as well as a group discount for COG members. ;)
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Alan_Yucius_FL on November 24, 2015, 08:44:24 pm
+1 on the count me in if the hardware issue is resolved as well as a group discount for COG members. ;)


                                                                                                         :great:
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: pechorin75 on November 25, 2015, 04:55:04 am
Helluva lot of good that does those of us who bought at full price AND got the wrong hardware  ::)
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Capo on November 25, 2015, 11:14:37 am
As of yet it only appears that EXTRA HARDWARE has been included. I will know more after today's c14 install. Thanks for standing by.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Capo on November 26, 2015, 11:36:51 am
Okay guys this is how you attach the brackets to your bikes with the hardware that you were provided,  which is the correct hardware you just received too many pieces.
 first in the center hole is an m6x16 button head socket screw with a metal  flat washer and a lock washer on top of it.  and then in the center holes are in 5 X 16 Phillips head truss screws with a metal flat washer and lock washer on top of it.

 as far as attaching the shield to the bracket now you use the m5 X25  Phillips head screws with a rubber washer below the shield on the top and bottom holes a plastic washer above the shield and in the center hole you're going to use the large shoulder washer with a metal washer above it.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Steve in Sunny Fla on November 26, 2015, 12:51:29 pm
I can personally assure y'all that Madstad is addressing the issue. Capo is personally attending to it, and they are using my bike as the prototype bike for a new shield system! I think y'all will be impressed with what they come up with. Stay tuned - Steve

Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: cuda on November 26, 2015, 10:28:13 pm
Well I hope they send me the new design :o
Two weeks ago I ordered a set and have not received them yet , not in any hurry, but would sure like to get the new design.


Has anyone tried them with that small Copperdawg sport shield , I love that shield around town but not at 70+mph :(
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Old Steve on November 27, 2015, 07:17:56 pm
Okay guys this is how you attach the brackets to your bikes with the hardware that you were provided,  which is the correct hardware you just received too many pieces.
 first in the center hole is an m6x16 button head socket screw with a metal  flat washer and a lock washer on top of it.  and then in the center holes are in 5 X 16 Phillips head truss screws with a metal flat washer and lock washer on top of it.

 as far as attaching the shield to the bracket now you use the m5 X25  Phillips head screws with a rubber washer below the shield on the top and bottom holes a plastic washer above the shield and in the center hole you're going to use the large shoulder washer with a metal washer above it.

Capo,
I don't think we're quite there yet.
I used the two m6X16 socket screws in the center holes of the brackets connecting to the bike.
Then I used two of the four m5X16 Phillips head screws on each side.  So far, so good.
Each of the above six screws got a lock washer and a flat metal washer.  Now I'm out of flat metal washers.

I mean no offense, but I cannot be certain how to parse your sentence about attaching the shield to the bracket.  One thing I'm sure of is that I will need at least two more metal washers than were included with the kit.
The heads of the six m5X25 Phillips head screws and the plastic washers slip right through the screen.  The large plastic shoulder washers seem like they would help, but I only have four of them.  The small plastic shoulder washers are just barely bigger than the holes in the screen, and I don't trust them to hold at speed.
As far as I can tell, I'm going to need two more large shoulder washers and six more metal washers, but that last sentence is a doozy, so I'm not sure.
Can I ask you to take another look at the picture I sent and verify that the parts I have correspond to your instructions?
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Capo on November 28, 2015, 03:54:37 pm
Old Steve, I believe that you are correct in that you are 2 m5 metal washers short. Pm your addy please.
The large shoulder washers will be used in the center holes of your screen, sandwiched between a metal washer above and a rubber washer below, using an m5x25 screw. This will be tightened loosely at first leaving room to place a rubber washer between your screen and brackets for the top and bottom holes, tighten screws, place stock trim piece in place use m5x25 with plastic washer in the remaining 4 holes.


Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Old Steve on November 28, 2015, 11:41:00 pm
Capo,
Thanks for the clarification.  I picked up a couple of m5 washers from the local Ace, and got it done.  I took a quick zip on a nearby highway so I could get up to moderate speed  >:D
I noticed a definite reduction in wind noise, and the backdraft "suck-in" effect is completely gone.  It did seem like I was getting a bit more breeze on my elbows, but I don't expect that to be a problem.  I'm looking forward to getting on the freeway for a proper shakedown, but so far, so good!

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Capo on November 30, 2015, 11:38:17 am
Great Old Steve! We got that sorted! Ride safe, and enjoy!
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: CalculatedRisk on December 03, 2015, 12:45:21 am
Please let us know when the new & improved design is out.

I'm getting quite a farkle list for when I have some $$$.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Capo on December 04, 2015, 12:06:47 pm
I'm not at all sure what you are referring to.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Jeff on December 04, 2015, 12:50:07 pm
Capo,

I believe Calculated Risk when referring to the "new and improved design" simply means that the correct hardware and ONLY the correct hardware be included with the brackets.....no extra pieces and only the pieces required.  I personally am mechanically challenged so having incorrect pieces or extra pieces in a project boggles my mind.  A manufacture should provide clear, simple, precise installation instructions. 
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Bakerman on December 04, 2015, 02:16:47 pm
I would think that as a manufacturer, Madstad would want to keep their costs as low as possible by only including what is required.  Adding additional pieces only increases production costs and customer confusion.  This could also help reduce the price of the kit.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: MikeB_CA on December 04, 2015, 03:56:37 pm
So, the 2 center "rubber nuts" spun and pulled completey out of my brackets...both of them

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a209/mikeb2411/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/20151121_185414_zpsrjp18szj.jpg) (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/mikeb2411/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/20151121_185414_zpsrjp18szj.jpg.html)

I emailed Madstad and they responded with "by the looks of the nut in the picture you used a power driver on the screws which destroyed them. We will send new screws to you.". A "power driver" on the screws for my windscreen...REALLY? I responded with, "if using my hand and a phillips screwdriver are a power driver then, "yes", I used a power driver". I proceeded to tell him, as nicely as I could, that I would NEVER use a power driver on my windscreen fasteners! Never have and never will, on any screw or bolt on my bike...sheesh ::)
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Waxbean on December 04, 2015, 06:56:00 pm
And so a need for a new and improved kit....Mike I could tell those rubber plugs wouldn't hold so since I have access to a lathe I made up spacers( out of delrin) to fit inside the windshield holes(top and bottom 4) to create a solid stop between the top of the rubber and the back of the top trim piece. Works like a charm and holds everything snug and in place. Shouldn't be to hard to fabricate even with out a lathe and really should be included with the install kit.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Jeff on December 04, 2015, 07:23:12 pm
Looks like Madstad still has quite a ways to go to provide a reliable product? ???
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Capo on December 04, 2015, 09:02:48 pm
The instruction manual and the hardware provided is correct it has been revised. As far as the well nuts that were destroyed of the above user he is the only customer that has ever complained of such an issue with one of the Madstad systems,  and you must have been using that number two Phillips screwdriver with some serious wrist action man,  there is no need to tighten anything like a gorilla on anything on your motorcycle except maybe your head bolts with a torque wrench.  your instruction manual strictly States snug and not overtighten, simply follow the instructions provided.  we are always improving our designs however,  but what Madstad offers is nothing less than stellar craftsmanship there is no reason to over torque a screw to the point of destruction  of anything.  I have tens of thousands of miles, a high-side, and a head on collision with my Madstad system folks,  never an issue never a complaint not even about a well nut.   Sorry if I sound harsh, but I have been a Cogger long before I was employed by Madstad and this product had me  long before my employment started.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Rev.Brian on November 11, 2017, 05:10:00 pm
I installed Madstad brackets on my 2017 last night. The bag of screws, washers, etc. was a mess. At least 10 leftover parts. I am a huge Madstad fan. Have used them on other bikes but... I'm really concerned. Some of these rubber stoppers have pulled out. Washers don't precisely align. Does anyone have any advice for better screws, wingnuts, etc ? The bracket is great. I'm just not sure the windshield will stay on.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Motor Psycho on November 12, 2017, 12:38:27 am
I put those brackets on my 2015. Madstad apparently does know that the windshields are different on 2015 and newer. I ended up at the local hardware store for longer screws and new rubber grommets. Once installed it's great. One of the best mods I've done.
Title: Re: Madstad brackets
Post by: Rock on November 12, 2017, 08:18:25 pm
All:

I just received an MRA X screen and mounted on my 2013 C14 w/stock shield. The parts seem to be of a very good quality but I had issue with the instructions. However, I called them and the customer service guy was very helpful. After two hours it was on and looks good. Two short rides and I like. There are so many position possible with the stock screen. I'm 5'10" and have found about two different positions that work well for me around town and on the freeway.

I got this system after a "ride" to Boston from GA; two days each way of 11-12 hrs and tons of turbulence! I'd say at 70 mph turbulence and noise reduced at least 70%.

Phil