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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2017, 10:49:34 am »
I end up needing metric fasteners, for work.  Even in a town like Salt Lake, I have at least 5 bolt and nut supply companies.  Any of them would have this bolt. The head is never the correct wrench size, but it would get you by until you could order the correct one.

Do you have anything like that, near you?  Often times if you need just (1), they wont even charge.

PM me if you cant find the correct size.  I'll stop in to one of the places, grab one,  and send it to you. If we do this quickly, we could probably have it to you by Tuesday.

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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2017, 03:03:59 pm »
I end up needing metric fasteners, for work.  Even in a town like Salt Lake, I have at least 5 bolt and nut supply companies.  Any of them would have this bolt. The head is never the correct wrench size, but it would get you by until you could order the correct one.

Do you have anything like that, near you?  Often times if you need just (1), they wont even charge.

PM me if you cant find the correct size.  I'll stop in to one of the places, grab one,  and send it to you. If we do this quickly, we could probably have it to you by Tuesday.
Thanks. Found a cogger with an OEM locally - I'll be picking it up tonight at the Sac Meet & Greet.  I appreciate the effort and thought!

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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2017, 10:59:09 pm »
I know I can hear it in my head. Stoopid Bolt.  :)) :))
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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2017, 11:22:04 pm »
Be careful as it threads in.  The thread pitch you are looking for is 1.25mm   Right between the normal choices you often times find at the hardware store. You will feel it.  If the pitch is off, it tries to start, but won't quite do so.

I watch ebay.  In the winter, I'll search for someone parting whatever bike I have.  A person can usually work out a deal for the pile of bolts, clips,and misc hardware they have laying around after the part out.

Of course, I've never needed any of the big bolts, just because I have them.

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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2017, 11:55:28 pm »
Be careful as it threads in.  The thread pitch you are looking for is 1.25mm

Should be 1.5mm. On any drawing with metric fasteners and the thread pitch is not given, it's always coarse thread. Coarse thread on m10 is 1.5. As per the machinery handbook. Which has been industry standard for 100 years.

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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2017, 08:54:05 am »
This thread on the other forum says the pitch is 1.25. 
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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2017, 09:51:34 am »
This thread on the other forum says the pitch is 1.25.

Leave it to a heavy industries manufacturer to just throw the book out. I HATE engineers.

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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2017, 10:49:46 am »
It's moot at this point.  The OP said:

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Thanks. Found a cogger with an OEM locally - I'll be picking it up tonight at the Sac Meet & Greet.  I appreciate the effort and thought!

I assume that "Sac" really means "Sat" but the OEM part is going to be the right one.  But an M10 could be either 1.0 or 1.25 thread pitch and I'm not sure which it is.  If you're in a pinch to figure it out, there is an identical bolt on the other side in the same place.  Pull it out and count the threads.
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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2017, 10:55:29 am »
If this is the bolt you replace when putting on canyon cages it is 1.25 pitch, at least on my 09 it was.

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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2017, 10:59:08 am »
This thread on the other forum says the pitch is 1.25.

Leave it to a heavy industries manufacturer to just throw the book out. I HATE engineers.


I know your rule is correct if it were one of my German made air compressors.  I wonder if there is a different "motorcycle" standard?   Maybe not even a "motorcycle"standard. I know ktm uses some bolts that need a 13mm wrench.  We won't find that on our Japanese bikes, unless it's an accessory.

Maybe this rule goes out the window when it gets an official part number, and an 8.00 price?

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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2017, 11:09:30 am »
This thread on the other forum says the pitch is 1.25.

Leave it to a heavy industries manufacturer to just throw the book out. I HATE engineers.


I know your rule is correct if it were one of my German made air compressors.  I wonder if there is a different "motorcycle" standard?   Maybe not even a "motorcycle"standard. I know ktm uses some bolts that need a 13mm wrench.  We won't find that on our Japanese bikes, unless it's an accessory.

Maybe this rule goes out the window when it gets an official part number, and an 8.00 price?


I think it's more likely that we're just looking at an exploded diagram, and not an actual machine print and parts list.

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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2017, 12:30:09 pm »
It's moot at this point.  The OP said:

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Thanks. Found a cogger with an OEM locally - I'll be picking it up tonight at the Sac Meet & Greet.  I appreciate the effort and thought!

I assume that "Sac" really means "Sat" but the OEM part is going to be the right one.  But an M10 could be either 1.0 or 1.25 thread pitch and I'm not sure which it is.  If you're in a pinch to figure it out, there is an identical bolt on the other side in the same place.  Pull it out and count the threads.
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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2017, 12:45:09 pm »
This thread on the other forum says the pitch is 1.25.

Leave it to a heavy industries manufacturer to just throw the book out. I HATE engineers.


I know your rule is correct if it were one of my German made air compressors.  I wonder if there is a different "motorcycle" standard?   Maybe not even a "motorcycle"standard. I know ktm uses some bolts that need a 13mm wrench.  We won't find that on our Japanese bikes, unless it's an accessory.

Maybe this rule goes out the window when it gets an official part number, and an 8.00 price?


I think it's more likely that we're just looking at an exploded diagram, and not an actual machine print and parts list.


There appears to be a JIS standard?   https://www.nutsandbolts.com/jis.html


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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2017, 05:48:34 pm »
To everyone posting above - THANKS!!!!!  I appreciate your input, thoughts and assistance.

Here's the skinny:

The bolt is M10-1.25x45mm 

The only way to get this bolt, from anyone, is to order it.  I found a M10-1.25x50mm Grade 8 Zinc plated locally and finger threaded it in most of the way just to confirm 1.25.

Kawasaki  never refers to it in any other way than M10x45 - parts diagram and service manual (I'm told) show only this spec. And leave us to guess what they consider standard (just read rcannon's JIS article)

Discussed taking out the other bolt so we could check it - didn't want to if we didn't have to. So finding a $1 overlong test bolt saved us that. (cause with the way things are going, the engine would have fallen out and I would have had to do the 6 bolt mount&bracket re-install torquing pattern)

All cause I didn't want to  pay Mama Kawa's $40 rush charge to get the OEM part here in time for my trip. I've spent double that in mine and other peoples time. Sorry and thanks.


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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2017, 10:06:19 pm »
Stoopid bolt.
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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #40 on: September 09, 2017, 01:23:35 am »
I have a m10x1.25x45 bolt. It's the one you didn't take home last night. Let me know if you need it.


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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #41 on: September 09, 2017, 01:49:47 am »
Stoopid bolt.
Let's be honest - 50% stoopid bolt and 50% stoopid cheap Wandrng

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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2017, 01:51:58 am »
I have a m10x1.25x45 bolt. It's the one you didn't take home last night. Let me know if you need it.
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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2017, 01:55:38 am »
One COGger to another:
  If you need it quick {and if I were closer}, I'd just let you use mine...
     Wish I had thought of it sooner.

When do you need it?

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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2017, 02:02:22 am »
One COGger to another:
  If you need it quick {and if I were closer}, I'd just let you use mine...
     Wish I had thought of it sooner.

When do you need it?

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Re: Need an engine mount bolt. Fell out...
« Reply #45 on: September 09, 2017, 01:40:47 pm »
Ok, enjoy your ride.

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