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Need radiator for C-14
« on: April 07, 2018, 08:57:28 pm »
Well,  I am now proof that a radiator guard/screen is a good investment for the C-14.  Enjoying a ride while at the SC Wildflower rally and I took a direct hit from a small rock in the upper portion of the radiator.  This of course caused a leak and the need for a replacement radiator.

Does anyone have one for sale?  I have a 2013 although I am not sure if there is any difference between 1st and 2nd gen C-14's.

Please send me a PM or let me know you have one available.

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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2018, 09:15:47 pm »
Well,  I am now proof that a radiator guard/screen is a good investment for the C-14.  Enjoying a ride while at the SC Wildflower rally and I took a direct hit from a small rock in the upper portion of the radiator.  This of course caused a leak and the need for a replacement radiator.

Does anyone have one for sale?  I have a 2013 although I am not sure if there is any difference between 1st and 2nd gen C-14's.

Please send me a PM or let me know you have one available.

Steve

Have you tried a radiator repair shop? It's possible they could repair it.


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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2018, 10:02:28 pm »
Just curious do yo have a fender extender?
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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2018, 11:27:27 pm »
I am cursed with radiator issues. Because I was bringing the wife and 10 year old to one of the NE rally's I had to tow my C14. 1st time towing it and very nervous. I strapped that thing down so tight my Dinali split air horn (horn part where stock horn was) put a hole in my radiator. So I immediately ordered a $125 radiator I found on Amazon. Then I went to a local radiator shopo and had the broken one fixed. $50 bucks and I was back in business. When I got home I had the new one waiting for me. Not wanting to ride with a repaired radiator I installed the new one.

Then I had a little oops. I high sided at 60 after hitting black ice on the parkway. Needless to say my radiator didn't survive. $7000 in damages and I'm back on the road. The mechanic that worked on the bike said the radiator I had in there was Chinese s***. So back with the $900 kawa radiator thanks to the accident.

I do have a radiator guard on the bike and even though a tiny rock managed to get through on the very top right side and put a hole in it..... I put the repaired radiator I had back in and had that one repaired.

Now a year later... The repaired radiator sprung a leak where the repair was. So put the one I had repaired previously in...

UGH!!! Last part of the story? I traded the C14 for an H2 SX SE.

Point of the story... Don't buy cheap s***. Get a used one off ebay.
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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2018, 12:41:58 am »
Mylers Radiator repair in Utah. Fast, good, cheap, end of story. ALL they do is M/C rads. Having my ZX-10 done by them right now.
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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2018, 12:03:21 pm »
I am cursed with radiator issues.

I do have a radiator guard on the bike and even though a tiny rock managed to get through on the very top right side and put a hole in it..... I put the repaired radiator I had back in and had that one repaired.


Kev -

Curious.....did you have to replace the Coolant each time you swapped a radiator??
That can dget pricey as well.  $20 a gallon, or so depending what you use.

Also, agree with some of the above responses: Radiator guard AND a fender extension is cheap insurance.  Less than $150 vs. a $900 OEm radiator.  Fair trade.

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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2018, 12:06:03 pm »
I am cursed with radiator issues.

I do have a radiator guard on the bike and even though a tiny rock managed to get through on the very top right side and put a hole in it..... I put the repaired radiator I had back in and had that one repaired.


Kev -

Curious.....did you have to replace the Coolant each time you swapped a radiator??
That can dget pricey as well.  $20 a gallon, or so depending what you use.

Also, agree with some of the above responses: Radiator guard AND a fender extension is cheap insurance.  Less than $150 vs. a $900 OEm radiator.  Fair trade.

gr

Whatever I had around the garage... Prestone?

I did have a guard but not a fender extender.
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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2018, 12:34:12 pm »
Just add a raw egg and a tablespoon of pepper ... :)
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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2018, 03:05:55 pm »
I do not have a fender extender, but this would not have prevented the rock from hitting the radiator.  The rock came in between top of fender and underside of the lights, so kind of a direct hit.   My plan is to buy one off ebay and install that.  I agree that buying a cheap radiator is just asking for trouble.  I need to get the bike fixed so I can head out to Cliff's rally in 10 days, so a little bit of time pressure applied.

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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2018, 05:44:58 pm »
I do not have a fender extender, but this would not have prevented the rock from hitting the radiator.  The rock came in between top of fender and underside of the lights, so kind of a direct hit.   My plan is to buy one off ebay and install that.  I agree that buying a cheap radiator is just asking for trouble.  I need to get the bike fixed so I can head out to Cliff's rally in 10 days, so a little bit of time pressure applied.

Steve

If you need it quick, I still say local radiator shop. Good luck.

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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2018, 08:36:21 pm »
you can buy a radiator repair kit at local car parts store, it's an epoxy fix. quick easy and permanent.. used one on my 09 and was still working great after over 40k miles. :)learned this from local radiator shop... :great:
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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2018, 10:01:50 am »
you can buy a radiator repair kit at local car parts store, it's an epoxy fix. quick easy and permanent.. used one on my 09 and was still working great after over 40k miles. :)learned this from local radiator shop... :great:

The epoxy fix is what the radiator repair shop did to my radiator that failed again a year later....
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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2018, 11:48:56 am »
My plan is to order a used radiator off Ebay.  I am also going to pull the damaged radiator and take it to a repair shop to see if they see it as a simple repair and one that will not start leaking a year later.  Kevin has me a little spooked, cause if it starts leaking again, then your dead on the side of the road.  If I feel comfortable with the repair option, then I will return the radiator to the seller. 

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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2018, 04:01:51 pm »
Most rad shops I know of wont touch a bike unit, the ones that will do a sub standard repair job. That is why i just go with Mylers, the unit comes back like new or nearly as good even when crash damaged. For a fraction of the cost. I have doubts about half the stuff sold on Flea-Bay, but if the return option is open I guess that works.
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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2018, 04:32:12 pm »

The epoxy fix is what the radiator repair shop did to my radiator that failed again a year later....
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I did contact a local radiator repair shop and they do work on motorcycle radiators.  Also found out they have a guy who welds aluminum, which will be a much better option than epoxy.  Will let y'all know what they quote for a repair.

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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2018, 04:57:10 pm »
Personally never heard of the "epoxy fix".

I thought radiator repair was ALL soldering/brazing with aluminum?

Epoxy / jb weld, or even Stop Leak can be handy for roadside repairs (i carry a little JB Welb kit with me in my tool kit) but for long term fixes, I'd want to be sure the Radiator shop was doing it the old fashioned way.

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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2018, 06:20:18 pm »
This thread made me think about what I need in my emergency kit while travelling.   Adding stop leak and JB weld to the kit.

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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2018, 08:16:51 pm »

The epoxy fix is what the radiator repair shop did to my radiator that failed again a year later....

I did contact a local radiator repair shop and they do work on motorcycle radiators.  Also found out they have a guy who welds aluminum, which will be a much better option than epoxy.  Will let y'all know what they quote for a repair.
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Most of the better shops now, have people that can TIG weld delicate aluminum reliably, I asked a local shop near me about it (didn't have a leky rad, just asked him if he had the skill level) and he grabbed an aluminum Coke can, slit it into strips, and proceded to show me he could weld those strips together... I was impressed... and his welds looked flawless... if he could weld that, he can fix a radiator, or the tubes easily...

Ask them, probably only charge you $50 if you drain it, rinse it, and bring it in... and they can pressure test it for you before you leave...

As for emergency road repairs.... we all carry JB Weld... and Epoxy kits... which will work temporarily if you drain the radiator down below the leak, spray it with brake cleaner, and wipe it dry, before smooshing the goober patch in place.. I've sealed dozens of car/truck "pings" with that, and a product called "plastic aluminum", (specifically made for doing that fix) which lasted decades...

BUT I would never attempt to use a "pour in" repair like "stop leak", or BarzLeak, or anything else like that... as you will end up with a plugged radiator, trashed water pump, and needing to do another thermostat, along with trying to clean that stuff out...
Remember, this bike has an oil cooler that sits way down low, and has small openings in it, and many pathways thruout the system, that will end up with all this suspended solids in the leak repair products sitting and creating blockages.

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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2018, 12:14:41 pm »
I know Mylers was mentioned, before, but he does amazing work.   https://www.motorcycleradiators.com/

They are about 2 miles from my house.  Ive taken in dirt bike radiators in and was embarrassed when I dropped them off.  Hes always had them done on the same day and they look brand new again.

He only works on motorcycle radiators. Mine have always came back, better than new.  He will often times reinforce weak spots, or areas known to be trouble spots, if your radiator has any.

I agree about not putting anything into the radiator.  Have it fixed, properly.


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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2018, 01:07:03 pm »
Personally never heard of the "epoxy fix".

I thought radiator repair was ALL soldering/brazing with aluminum?

Epoxy / jb weld, or even Stop Leak can be handy for roadside repairs (i carry a little JB Welb kit with me in my tool kit) but for long term fixes, I'd want to be sure the Radiator shop was doing it the old fashioned way.

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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2018, 01:03:05 pm »
My forst 08 took a readiator leak on a rally trip 500 miles from home. A friend had some stop leak "pills" sold by Ford Motor Company. We put it in thinking it might get me home. Never leaked again, still good after 80,000 more miles

Also, many years ago my 2002 Yamaha SV track bike took a rock and leaked. Was welded up by a family owned local shop. SV did another 30 track days.

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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2018, 11:24:58 am »
Decided to go the repair vs replace route.  Found a local radiator shop who welds aluminum and they fixed it for $75.  Got it remounted on the bike and everything checked out fine after a 15 mile ride.  The learning lesson here is if the damage is minor, repair will be less expensive than replacing with a used radiator off eBay (provided you have a repair shop in your vicinity).  Here is a pic of the repair.



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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2018, 04:17:11 pm »
Glad to hear they got you up and running. Sure beats buying a new one.  :great:

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Re: Need radiator for C-14
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2018, 04:41:11 pm »
And are you putting on a rad screen/protector after this?
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