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Pin rear cases ?
« on: May 20, 2015, 02:24:46 pm »
I searched and didn't find any real info on pinning the stock rear cases on the C14's.
I've heard/read about some of the cases falling off.  Is it a bad design or is/was it a person just not attaching them correctly?

Is it really necessary to pin them?

How many of you have had a case fall off?

Do you buy pins or make your own?  If buy them, where?  If make them, How?

If you have pinned your cases I would really like to see close-up images of the pins etc.



Thanks for any info - If it's needed fine, but I need to know how if it's needed.  ;D

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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2015, 02:41:06 pm »
I just bought a set of these,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Concours-14-GTR-1400-All-Years-Saddlebag-Retaining-Brackets-/281697549933?hash=item41967b7e6d&vxp=mtr

No drilling required.  They do lighten your wallet more though.
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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2015, 02:46:28 pm »
Had an incident where I went down and the bag saved my leg and din't pop off or even get too damaged. (sold for ABS bike lol)((friggin deer))

My buddy ran through too narrow of a gap and blew the mirrors and bag lids off his C14, neither bag popped off; just the lids broke. (all fixed)

Now, I have Admore leds on the rear of my bags with quick-disconnects in the front. The canyon cages look super stupid with the bags off so I keep the bags on and pinned. Maybe someday it will slow someone down from trying to take the bags off without noticing the wiring. I located the quick-connect plug right near the pin.

That's what I've got for you. Fire extinguisher pins worked for me. Took them out of two old fire extinguishers. I'll post up a pic if I get to it before anyone else has.
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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2015, 02:51:04 pm »
I searched and didn't find any real info on pinning the stock rear cases on the C14's.
I've heard/read about some of the cases falling off.  Is it a bad design or is/was it a person just not attaching them correctly?

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Thanks for any info - If it's needed fine, but I need to know how if it's needed.  ;D


When searching, don't use the forum search.  Go to Google.com and enter in a search phrase like this:

site:[http://forum.cog-online.org] pinning bags

You can modify the search terms after the brackets any way you like.  Let me know what you find.

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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2015, 02:59:55 pm »
Here's the ones that I used. I did remove the lanyard though.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#94975a123/=x9irqm
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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2015, 05:42:04 pm »
I lost a bag. Was very strong winds and also hit a bad bump in the road. I was doing about 60mph. Scratched it up real bad. I had been driving over 50 miles so I believe case was on correctly. Kaw replaced painted part under warranty but not the whole thing. I bought the ebay brackets for 20.00 so it doesnt happen again. I dont believe they lock down as secure as the C10s did.
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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2015, 06:03:20 pm »
I searched and didn't find any real info on pinning the stock rear cases on the C14's.
I've heard/read about some of the cases falling off.  Is it a bad design or is/was it a person just not attaching them correctly?

Is it really necessary to pin them?

How many of you have had a case fall off?

Do you buy pins or make your own?  If buy them, where?  If make them, How?

If you have pinned your cases I would really like to see close-up images of the pins etc.



Thanks for any info - If it's needed fine, but I need to know how if it's needed.  ;D



here is what you are looking for... it is all explained, you don't need huge pins, the 3/16" ones work fine.... been using mine since I wrote that original article, without issue...

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,27049.0.html

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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2015, 08:18:20 pm »
Had an incident where I went down and the bag saved my leg and din't pop off or even get too damaged. (sold for ABS bike lol)((friggin deer))

My buddy ran through too narrow of a gap and blew the mirrors and bag lids off his C14, neither bag popped off; just the lids broke. (all fixed)

Now, I have Admore leds on the rear of my bags with quick-disconnects in the front. The canyon cages look super stupid with the bags off so I keep the bags on and pinned. Maybe someday it will slow someone down from trying to take the bags off without noticing the wiring. I located the quick-connect plug right near the pin.

That's what I've got for you. Fire extinguisher pins worked for me. Took them out of two old fire extinguishers. I'll post up a pic if I get to it before anyone else has.
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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2015, 08:39:19 pm »
I searched and didn't find any real info on pinning the stock rear cases on the C14's.
I've heard/read about some of the cases falling off.  Is it a bad design or is/was it a person just not attaching them correctly?

Is it really necessary to pin them?

How many of you have had a case fall off?

Do you buy pins or make your own?  If buy them, where?  If make them, How?

If you have pinned your cases I would really like to see close-up images of the pins etc.



Thanks for any info - If it's needed fine, but I need to know how if it's needed.  ;D



here is what you are looking for... it is all explained, you don't need huge pins, the 3/16" ones work fine.... been using mine since I wrote that original article, without issue...

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,27049.0.html


Thanks for the link.  :great:

Now I know what your talking about, and will look into it.

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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2015, 08:45:58 pm »
Had an incident where I went down and the bag saved my leg and din't pop off or even get too damaged. (sold for ABS bike lol)((friggin deer))

My buddy ran through too narrow of a gap and blew the mirrors and bag lids off his C14, neither bag popped off; just the lids broke. (all fixed)

Now, I have Admore leds on the rear of my bags with quick-disconnects in the front. The canyon cages look super stupid with the bags off so I keep the bags on and pinned. Maybe someday it will slow someone down from trying to take the bags off without noticing the wiring. I located the quick-connect plug right near the pin.

That's what I've got for you. Fire extinguisher pins worked for me. Took them out of two old fire extinguishers. I'll post up a pic if I get to it before anyone else has.
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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2015, 08:47:38 pm »
2010,    >102,000 miles, never pinned the bags nor had an issue. 



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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2015, 11:04:10 pm »
2010,    >102,000 miles, never pinned the bags nor had an issue. 



BUT......   I make sure my FOB battery is fresh at all times. I replace it long before its down.  KiPass's mad pow-ah resides in the FOB


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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2015, 11:59:40 pm »
I have the brackets,  they work very well. 

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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2015, 12:25:10 am »
The bags can be secured without pinning them with $2 worth of felt pad available at any hardware store.
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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2015, 01:28:08 am »
The bags can be secured without pinning them with $2 worth of felt pad available at any hardware store.

Fred, Fred, Fred... you tease!!  :lol_hitting:  Details please. ???   I'm already pinned,  but jeez,  I gotta know.
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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2015, 03:35:20 am »
The bags can be secured without pinning them with $2 worth of felt pad available at any hardware store.

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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2015, 12:29:41 pm »
The bags can be secured without pinning them with $2 worth of felt pad available at any hardware store.

Fred, Fred, Fred... you tease!!  :lol_hitting:  Details please. ???   I'm already pinned,  but jeez,  I gotta know.

Agreed  :iagree: :iagree:  Especially since I'm NOT pinned yet.  :-\

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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2015, 12:46:06 pm »
The bags can be secured without pinning them with $2 worth of felt pad available at any hardware store.

Fred, Fred, Fred... you tease!!  :lol_hitting:  Details please. ???   I'm already pinned,  but jeez,  I gotta know.

Agreed  :iagree: :iagree:  Especially since I'm NOT pinned yet.  :-\

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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2015, 12:50:34 pm »
2010,    >102,000 miles, never pinned the bags nor had an issue. 



BUT......   I make sure my FOB battery is fresh at all times. I replace it long before its down.  KiPass's mad pow-ah resides in the FOB


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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2015, 12:54:28 pm »
I pinned mine.  Just a little black rattle can work on the pin & ring.

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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2015, 09:43:57 pm »
The bags can be secured without pinning them with $2 worth of felt pad available at any hardware store.

So Fred...

Can you share with us how to do this? Inquiring minds want to know...
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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2015, 09:50:41 pm »
I searched and didn't find any real info on pinning the stock rear cases on the C14's.
I've heard/read about some of the cases falling off.  Is it a bad design or is/was it a person just not attaching them correctly?

Is it really necessary to pin them?

How many of you have had a case fall off?

Do you buy pins or make your own?  If buy them, where?  If make them, How?

If you have pinned your cases I would really like to see close-up images of the pins etc.



Thanks for any info - If it's needed fine, but I need to know how if it's needed.  ;D



here is what you are looking for... it is all explained, you don't need huge pins, the 3/16" ones work fine.... been using mine since I wrote that original article, without issue...

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,27049.0.html


Great solution MOB... I wonder about the long term effects of horizontal/vertical flexing of the plastic areas surrounding the pin caused by vibration/airflow/etc... possibly causing cracks/breakage? But many people have used this solution for years/many miles with no ill effects, yes?
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Re: Pin rear cases ?
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2015, 03:39:18 am »
I searched and didn't find any real info on pinning the stock rear cases on the C14's.
I've heard/read about some of the cases falling off.  Is it a bad design or is/was it a person just not attaching them correctly?

Is it really necessary to pin them?

How many of you have had a case fall off?

Do you buy pins or make your own?  If buy them, where?  If make them, How?

If you have pinned your cases I would really like to see close-up images of the pins etc.



Thanks for any info - If it's needed fine, but I need to know how if it's needed.  ;D



here is what you are looking for... it is all explained, you don't need huge pins, the 3/16" ones work fine.... been using mine since I wrote that original article, without issue...

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,27049.0.html


Great solution MOB... I wonder about the long term effects of horizontal/vertical flexing of the plastic areas surrounding the pin caused by vibration/airflow/etc... possibly causing cracks/breakage? But many people have used this solution for years/many miles with no ill effects, yes?


40k miles, never an issue..
I did the first pin job, and ducumented it, a 3/16" pin removes all the issue, and never worry... just follow the photo locations for the drilill, and the parts, and forget about it afterwards...
simple, cheap, and it works... COGfrugalicious..

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