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Offline Deepsea

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Re: Should timing be set with the CCT in or out?
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2018, 03:44:02 am »
Removing the rotor wasn't "Necessary", only the chain link (pin) count matters. If it worked for you and helped get everything back where it belongs.... the end result is what really counts. I see two valuable lessons here. First, keep asking questions before taking action that's outside the norm. Second, saving a few dollars by using the wrong tool is very expensive.
  Just about anyone who knows the difference between a Posidrive, Phillips and JIS  screwdrivers should be able to do this work. It's not rocket science but it can really try your patience and requires you to be very exact. Measure not twice but thrice before cutting.



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Re: Should timing be set with the CCT in or out?
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2018, 05:23:32 pm »
I never knew there was a difference in "star" drivers.  Always just found one that fit better if it was trying to slip.  But I was able to pull off C14 valve job with little problem.  I did watch the videos though.  I did the C10 all from forum writings first time.  My tool box is like a single top tray with just a hand full of tools.  I did break down and got light torque wrench.   I figured if the torque was over 20 lbs I could use my old gnt method.
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Re: Should timing be set with the CCT in or out?
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2018, 08:13:07 pm »
Ever wonder why so many Phillips screws get rounded out on our bikes? They are not Phillips but JIS screws and are just different enough to mess with your head. Look closely at the tip of a Phillips screwdriver then look very closely into a JIS screw. The screwdriver comes to more of a point and will not fully engage the screw. If your desperate you can file some of the point off for better engagement. Some German bikes also use Posidrive screws and they are also different.
  The most expensive tool you can buy is a cheep torque wrench. Especially when working in aluminum.
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Re: Should timing be set with the CCT in or out?
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2018, 09:50:20 pm »
I just bought two JIS drivers, #2 and 3. You can use JIS driver on Phillips screws but not the other way around.


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Re: Should timing be set with the CCT in or out?
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2018, 06:08:01 am »
Maybe you can but you shouldn't. I can also use a pipe wrench to remove Whitworth (BSW & BSF) bolts. Overlay those two diagrams and see what you get.


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