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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2018, 01:26:31 am »
Hi,
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Getting rid of that "potato launcher" was my first mod! :truce:

Jim, I might try that "Hole Trick" on my 18" CF Delk! ;D

I did this on all three of my Delkevic mufflers and it works.
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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2018, 03:22:29 pm »
I vote for the stock potato launcher being better. Its the pipe you want if the Florida biker gangs are shooting at you. Crawling behind it will offer a decent level of protection.

The Delkevic brand surprises me. When they first came out, I expected a typical Chinese made product. That's been several years, and no one complains about their Delk. They appear to hold up very well, and look good.

Does anyone happen to have a pic of what their sound insert looks like?  The Leo Vince insert looks like this:
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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2018, 03:48:59 pm »
This is from my Delkevic 18" with Jim Snyder's mod in the end, +3/4 to 7/8.

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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2018, 03:57:10 pm »
I vote for the stock potato launcher being better. Its the pipe you want if the Florida biker gangs are shooting at you. Crawling behind it will offer a decent level of protection.

The Delkevic brand surprises me. When they first came out, I expected a typical Chinese made product. That's been several years, and no one complains about their Delk. They appear to hold up very well, and look good.

Does anyone happen to have a pic of what their sound insert looks like?  The Leo Vince insert looks like this:

Akrapovic DB killers look exactly like that!
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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2018, 04:53:10 pm »
Went with the Carbon Fiber Area P, no dB killer needed. Perfect tone when mashing the throttle, could not hear it on the Highway.
I changed the Muffler out as much to rid the C-14 of the fugly "Scud" as sound and performance.
Of all the major manufacturers Kawi Mufflers are a abomination. Those design engineers need to put down the schweed before work.  ::)

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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2018, 05:29:16 pm »
I have the exact Area P as Tom.

NOTE: Area P does not offer a baffle, but you can special order their Slip-on's with a smaller ID.
                  (I think the smaller ID Muffler's are used in Europe)

When I bought mine, I wanted to see if I could make it quieter, so I experimented and built my own baffle.
   It was very similar design to the one RC posted.
   When I installed it, I did not get a lot of noise reduction, but I did notice the reduction in high rpm power immediately.
   Needless to say, it's out of the muffler now..

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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2018, 06:05:08 pm »
The only reason I have been looking at slip-on's is the stock can looks hideous :( and full systems are a bit pricey for me. I am toying with the idea of building my own head pipe, basically a hybrid of the ZX/C14 pipe. The reason for building my own head pipe is also because the stock can is fugley.
I know many have gotten the ZX duels by simply using the ZX head pipe, but I would rather not kill the low end torque of the C14.
As far as performance increases, people should realize a single part will rarely gain you much of an increase. Horsepower gain claims made by aftermarket manufacturers are many times based on potential over the stock part when combined with other modifications.
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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2018, 08:21:21 pm »
I vote for the stock potato launcher being better. Its the pipe you want if the Florida biker gangs are shooting at you. Crawling behind it will offer a decent level of protection.

The Delkevic brand surprises me. When they first came out, I expected a typical Chinese made product. That's been several years, and no one complains about their Delk. They appear to hold up very well, and look good.

Does anyone happen to have a pic of what their sound insert looks like?  The Leo Vince insert looks like this:

Florida biker gangs??

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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2018, 09:41:02 pm »
The only reason I have been looking at slip-on's is the stock can looks hideous :( and full systems are a bit pricey for me. I am toying with the idea of building my own head pipe, basically a hybrid of the ZX/C14 pipe. The reason for building my own head pipe is also because the stock can is fugley.
I know many have gotten the ZX duels by simply using the ZX head pipe, but I would rather not kill the low end torque of the C14.
As far as performance increases, people should realize a single part will rarely gain you much of an increase. Horsepower gain claims made by aftermarket manufacturers are many times based on potential over the stock part when combined with other modifications.

I'll be interested to see what you develop.

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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #59 on: January 14, 2018, 03:06:38 pm »
I vote for the stock potato launcher being better. Its the pipe you want if the Florida biker gangs are shooting at you. Crawling behind it will offer a decent level of protection.

The Delkevic brand surprises me. When they first came out, I expected a typical Chinese made product. That's been several years, and no one complains about their Delk. They appear to hold up very well, and look good.

Does anyone happen to have a pic of what their sound insert looks like?  The Leo Vince insert looks like this:

Florida biker gangs??

Steve mentioned Florida Biker gangs as being a real issue a few weeks back. I hoped you had seen his post. MY response would have made more sense.

I wish we had more technology going into noise reduction, but maybe Im being silly to think we could have small, compact, light and quiet?

Proof of that being impossible has to be the 2018 zx14 OEM exhaust, which is neither compact, light, or small.

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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #60 on: January 14, 2018, 03:41:54 pm »
I was in my local dealer yesterday getting some new tires mounted, looking around as I waited, I seen they had the new Z900RS,  and that bike has the best looking stock exhaust that I have seen in a long time from header to tip of muffler.  Nice looking bike too overall, only thing I don't like is the radiator.

http://s3.india.com/auto/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Kawasaki_Z900RS_009.jpg

Also noticed they had a newer GSXR 1K and that thing had a car muffler hanging off the end of it.  I bet those get replaced real quick.  So I guess there are uglier exhaust's out there than the Connie.
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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #61 on: January 14, 2018, 04:15:42 pm »
I was in my local dealer yesterday getting some new tires mounted, looking around as I waited, I seen they had the new Z900RS,  and that bike has the best looking stock exhaust that I have seen in a long time from header to tip of muffler.  Nice looking bike too overall, only thing I don't like is the radiator.

http://s3.india.com/auto/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Kawasaki_Z900RS_009.jpg

Also noticed they had a newer GSXR 1K and that thing had a car muffler hanging off the end of it.  I bet those get replaced real quick.  So I guess there are uglier exhaust's out there than the Connie.


I picked up my RS yesterday, the stock exhaust is all one piece no slip-on. It will be expensive if someone does an exhaust. Akrapovic had  a one off on the European debut display. BTW: The exhaust sound is incredible on rising rev's and decell. Its music. Yes the radiator is out of place, but the rest is beautiful. Steve needs to get one on a dyno and soon!!!!!!!!!

Oh: It feels tiny compared to the C14.

UPDATE: The RS has a 2 piece exhaust and Akrapovic sells a slip on at over 700 bucks. Look ugly compared to the stock piece.
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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #62 on: January 14, 2018, 05:02:07 pm »
Yeah I remember it looked tiny next to the ZX14 on the showroom floor they didn't have a Connie to compare to.  I bet it feels like a feather weight too. 

 I think they did a good job and I always liked the root beer and orange, I remember wanting a Z1 in the mid 70's but I was young and broke back then.
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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #63 on: January 15, 2018, 01:07:15 pm »
The 900 rs exhaust does look nice. Also, its sound is really good. It really did not sound like a stock bike

I also think Honda does  a nice job on the exhaust for the cbr 650.
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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #64 on: January 15, 2018, 01:21:02 pm »
If you don't like the stock "potato launcher" on the C-14, you definitely wouldn't like the stock mufflers on the ZX-14R.  It has TWO of those heavy, hideous monsters...  Went with 2 Brothers CF cans on both bikes.  I wasn't expecting huge performance improvements but hated the looks, weight and sound of the stock units...
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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #65 on: January 15, 2018, 02:53:07 pm »
Is it just an optical delusion on my part, or does the Area P can look narrower in diameter at the mid pipe end than at the tail end?

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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2018, 03:17:05 pm »
Nah, no change in dia. over the length.

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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #67 on: January 16, 2018, 12:56:39 am »
I too like the new Z900RS- CAFE version in grey
Good chance if I didn't already have the connie Iwould be riding one of those
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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #68 on: January 19, 2018, 11:43:22 am »
If you don't like the stock "potato launcher" on the C-14, you definitely wouldn't like the stock mufflers on the ZX-14R.  It has TWO of those heavy, hideous monsters...

Interesting as that is what I went to from the huge single can and it looks a lot slimmer and more balanced...
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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #69 on: January 19, 2018, 01:17:16 pm »
Yes the radiator is out of place, but the rest is beautiful. Steve needs to get one on a dyno and soon!!!!!!!!!

Oh: It feels tiny compared to the C14.

UPDATE: The RS has a 2 piece exhaust and Akrapovic sells a slip on at over 700 bucks. Look ugly compared to the stock piece.
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You mentioned the rs is tiny.  Is it smaller than the original?

I know my perception is all screwed up in regards to this.  I remember riding my dads kz 900. I was 12, and there was no way I could touch the ground. When I stopped, he grabbed the handlebars. A silly thing to do, but this was back when seatbelts were just tucked under the seat, never to be heard from again.

In my mind, that original bike was HUGE.
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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #70 on: January 19, 2018, 03:22:23 pm »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I cannot tell you if its smaller or bigger, but some of the early pictures shows the old and new side by side. They look similar in size. The 4 pipes off the original makes it look larger in the rear that the RS.

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Re: Slip ons - manufacturer claims
« Reply #71 on: January 19, 2018, 10:51:06 pm »
I don't think shaving 10 lbs off a bike this heavy is a big deal.  I don't think adding 3 or 4 or whatever HP to a bike like this is a big deal.  I DO feel that every time I roll on at apex and hear it make me smile is. 

Thank the cat or restraint or whatever, but I find it easy to make the Connie ok for the hood and a great soundtrack tearing up rural twisty roads.