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Steering Stem Bearings
« on: February 19, 2016, 10:46:48 pm »
The maintenance manual says to lubricate the steering stem bearings every two years or 12K miles.  I'm a little overdue...

How important is this?  Visual inspection and steering feel seem fine.

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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2016, 12:12:16 pm »
When I had the traveling steering nut tool, I took mine all apart. There was still grease in there and I would say that it was a sufficient amount. I did re-grease mine though.
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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2016, 02:12:43 am »
Personally, if you get the adjustment correct, that is the most important part to prolong bearing life.  There is quite a bit of grease in there and it has nowhere to go.  Taking it apart to put new grease in will only cause you to have to dial in the correct torque again.  There isn't any warranty issue with not putting in new grease because that bearing is a wear item they won't cover anyway. My $0.02
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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2016, 03:17:21 am »
Personally, if you get the adjustment correct, that is the most important part to prolong bearing life.  There is quite a bit of grease in there and it has nowhere to go.  Taking it apart to put new grease in will only cause you to have to dial in the correct torque again.  There isn't any warranty issue with not putting in new grease because that bearing is a wear item they won't cover anyway. My $0.02

^^^ Is what I figured - probably better if its not broke, to leave it alone... :) 

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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2016, 12:25:08 pm »
I agree with what TJ said. So that does make me happy that I got in line to get the traveling tool. Mine did need to be adjusted at 20k miles.
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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2016, 01:03:22 pm »
On that note....The steering head tool is still available and I believe there is no one currently claiming it.

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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2016, 04:01:32 pm »
On that note....The steering head tool is still available and I believe there is no one currently claiming it.

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php?topic=55043.0

Hey Tundra Tom; thanks for bringing this up. I would like to "claim" the tool. How to proceed? ;D

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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2016, 05:04:13 pm »
I have the stem tool and I'm just waiting for someone to ask for it. It's ready to go anytime.
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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2016, 01:27:20 pm »
I have the stem tool and I'm just waiting for someone to ask for it. It's ready to go anytime.

Thanks Deepsea,
Could you and Jetman take the conversation to the "traveling tool" thread to make the exchange?
I would like to use that thread to keep it moving and consolidate info.  :great:
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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2016, 07:53:19 pm »
Done and done.
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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2018, 04:58:13 pm »
Did this officially die in that d*******'s garage??

I'd be interested in participating if there's a new one floating about.

sorry to bump the old post.

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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2018, 05:20:49 pm »
had mine changed last summer when I had it in and felt a weird rattle whenever I used the brakes.

Took the cracked bearings back to the original dealer that had dropped it when they did my valves 6oomiles earlier. They said they were not responsible. I told them I would be going clear up to Ft Wayne from now on just to avoid letting them touch my bike.

The Ft Wayne dealer ordered from a source I can't quite remember. All Balls or something that I thought I would remember forever.

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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2018, 05:29:12 pm »
Ok, since I may not have been clear on that reposting:

Is the tool still out there, or has another Traveling Steering Stem Tool been offered up for loan amongst the COG??

How much does one of these cost?

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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2018, 06:46:01 am »
In Feb 2016 I sent the tool on to the next guy.


AllBalls are made in China of unknown quality steel. I'm not saying there are Bad, but I never buy them even though they are "Cheeper". This is one area where you really get what you pay for. When I changed the neck bearings it was with Timkin tapered roller bearings. For wheel bearings I get either Hybrid Ceramic($$$) or ABEC 5 EMQ (electric motor quality) bearings. They cost more but last forever.

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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2018, 09:44:59 am »
Ok, since I may not have been clear on that reposting:

Is the tool still out there, or has another Traveling Steering Stem Tool been offered up for loan amongst the COG??

How much does one of these cost?

thanks,
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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2018, 01:19:03 pm »
Personally, if you get the adjustment correct, that is the most important part to prolong bearing life.  There is quite a bit of grease in there and it has nowhere to go.  Taking it apart to put new grease in will only cause you to have to dial in the correct torque again.  There isn't any warranty issue with not putting in new grease because that bearing is a wear item they won't cover anyway. My $0.02
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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2018, 04:01:31 am »
Mine were supposed to have been serviced, lubed and tightened when getting ready for the Cortez National. I know the stem was tightened up some.

I put a set of All Balls in the Triple tree stem on the other bike. Holy Cow Batman what a difference those made for the old girl.
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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2018, 12:18:56 am »
If anyone has a head bearing tool, I'd love to borrow it

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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2018, 10:06:03 am »
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Re: Steering Stem Bearings
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2018, 06:17:16 pm »
Looks like the tool disappeared.  I bought one from fleabay.  Here in 1 to 2 weeks.