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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2017, 11:35:43 pm »
I thought I would try one out and found some good prices on ebay but im confused about the part no.
 some of them has a K on the end  of the no.  or a d  or a y this is from different vendors
   example :40-4F-136-K
 but all of them say they fit concours 14 am i missing somthing here or are they all the same?
 I tried visiting the G2 pages but something is weird is going on with their site right now .

The new and updated model for C14 is 40-4SF-136D
Nice and smooth. Exactly what I was looking for. :motonoises:
Strum. Thanks for starting this topic. :great:

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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2017, 02:58:57 am »
Per the manufacturer,G2Ergonomics<----click, the current part number is 40-4SF-136K.
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2017, 06:57:00 am »
So 40-4F-136K  won't work on a 2013 
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2017, 07:06:34 am »
It was for 08-14 when I bought that part number in 2014.  The new part number is for 08-17.  I'm sure it'll be no problem.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2017, 08:42:23 am by AmphibSailor, Reason: Corrected year error. Was 09-14. Updated to 08-14. »
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2017, 09:50:41 am »
It was for 08-14 when I bought that part number in 2014.  The new part number is for 08-17.  I'm sure it'll be no problem.

thanks, as long as it is working for you  it should on my '13   :great:
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2017, 01:55:41 pm »
  This 40-4SF-136D is the one I got . Fit perfect no problems at all. The only issue I had was adjusting the throttle cable . I had no adjustment left on the pull side.
 Then I went back and took another look at it a realized I was doing it wrong . The cables now are very close to where they were with the stock tube.
  I guess reading the manual does come in handy for us hard heads some time :nananana:
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2017, 03:10:22 pm »
It was for 08-14 when I bought that part number in 2014.  The new part number is for 08-17.  I'm sure it'll be no problem.

thanks, as long as it is working for you  it should on my '13   :great:

I put it on the bike before I got Steve's flash to get rid of that jerkiness at the closed to open throttle transition.  I just left it on when I added the flash.  Still works great...of course some of that might have been reduced with the flash.  I've got a full Area P.
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2017, 04:33:52 pm »
I think ya'll are missing the most important part of what a throttle tamer does..

For now, forget the initial 5% of your roll-on and think about the first part 25% of your throttle rotation...

NOTE: We use that first part of the throttle "most" of the time..

The throttle tamer spreads the first 25% out to (approx.) 35% of the total rotation.
Because it is spread out, you are able to better control your power.. (Not as touchy)
Soooo; In a turn/etc, you have better control of the power your choosing.
Plus it is easier to turn because the first part of the diameter is smaller than a stock throttle..

Something I bet you didn't think about;
   When you want WOT {to accell out of a turn/etc},
        you don't want to twist the throttle more than you do on a stock throttle.
   So,, the last 65% of a tamer is slightly larger dia than stock.
     This allows you to use the same amount of rotation to reach WOT as a stock throttle.

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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2017, 11:42:22 pm »
  This 40-4SF-136D is the one I got . Fit perfect no problems at all. The only issue I had was adjusting the throttle cable . I had no adjustment left on the pull side.
 Then I went back and took another look at it a realized I was doing it wrong . The cables now are very close to where they were with the stock tube.
  I guess reading the manual does come in handy for us hard heads some time :nananana:
Yep.  :great:
40-4SF-136D is a new and improved part .  :-\
I did mark the cables position before I removed everything and they went back almost into the same spots.
Hair spray did the job keeping the grip glued to the tube and 2-3mm slack was a very  minor adjustment.
I didn't have a chance yet to give it a real test on the twisties but the bike is runnig and shifting pleasantly  smooth in the city driving. :motonoises:
Reminds me of my old BMW K12000 LT but better.  :great:   I am very pleased with this upgrade and would  highly recommend it.  :beerchug:

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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2017, 03:02:51 am »
Is there any problem running this with heated grips and a Throttlemeister?
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2017, 03:25:46 am »
Is there any problem running this with heated grips and a Throttlemeister?

Nope!  It replaces the throttle tube.  Its thicker than the original but I had no problems getting my heated grip over it.  Also, ran a Throttlemeister with it out issue.   :beerchug:
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2017, 02:42:05 pm »
Do any of you that run the Throttle Tamer think it could help those of us that have throttle hand or wrist issues?
More specifically, does the TT require less effort when compared to stock to operate the throttle?

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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2017, 04:26:10 pm »
Steve my guess is no it will be the same amount of pull required to hold speed.  Might be slightly less just off idle.  Most times wrist issues are body position and death grip on the bars.  Relax and put bars on that get all your weight off your wrist.
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2017, 04:36:51 pm »
Steve my guess is no it will be the same amount of pull required to hold speed.  Might be slightly less just off idle.  Most times wrist issues are body position and death grip on the bars.  Relax and put bars on that get all your weight off your wrist.

I agree.  The tamer is smoother but it dont help the wrist any.
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2017, 05:17:40 pm »
Do any of you that run the Throttle Tamer think it could help those of us that have throttle hand or wrist issues?
More specifically, does the TT require less effort when compared to stock to operate the throttle?

Thanks!
I don't think I've a bike with a worse wrist angle than the stock bars on the c14. With a tubular bar setup you can find bars that will fit you.

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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2017, 09:07:52 pm »
Do any of you that run the Throttle Tamer think it could help those of us that have throttle hand or wrist issues?
More specifically, does the TT require less effort when compared to stock to operate the throttle?

Thanks!
I don't think I've a bike with a worse wrist angle than the stock bars on the c14. With a tubular bar setup you can find bars that will fit you.

Throttle Tamer does not change your wrist position. HeliBars will. :motonoises:
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2017, 01:44:09 pm »
Thanks for the info, guys. FWIW, I already have Helibar Horizons on my C14.  I been fighting this right hand tingling/numbness for a while now.

Thanks for the help.
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2017, 06:29:42 pm »
Is the TT install pretty straight forward?  :beerchug:

How do you get the heated grip off w/o damaging it?

Ok so I was able to get the throttle tube part way off, I suspect that the cables need to be popped off the OEM cam for the tube to come off the entire way and making slack for the heated grip harness.

So, thats easy, but what did you do to get the heated grip off w/o damaging the heated wires inside the grip? Thanks.
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2017, 08:25:17 pm »
I used an air compressor to get the grip off the throttle tube, slide the grip back on the G2 and you are ready to go.  I used hairspray to get the grip over the G2 and when it dries it sticks great.

You will need to take all the slack out of the throttle cables to get the cable ends off the throttle tube
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2017, 08:34:46 pm »
I used an air compressor to get the grip off the throttle tube, slide the grip back on the G2 and you are ready to go.  I used hairspray to get the grip over the G2 and when it dries it sticks great.

You will need to take all the slack out of the throttle cables to get the cable ends off the throttle tube

Ok, but I don't own a air compressor. You mean I need to create as much slack as possible to get the cables off the OEM tube?  :beerchug:
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2017, 09:02:59 pm »
I used an air compressor to get the grip off the throttle tube, slide the grip back on the G2 and you are ready to go.  I used hairspray to get the grip over the G2 and when it dries it sticks great.

You will need to take all the slack out of the throttle cables to get the cable ends off the throttle tube

Ok, but I don't own a air compressor. You mean I need to create as much slack as possible to get the cables off the OEM tube?  :beerchug:

Don't know what to tell you with no air compressor but yes on as much slack as possible, makes it a lot easier
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2017, 09:27:53 pm »
Ok thanks. TT on its way to me now
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2017, 04:41:06 pm »
Good info all. Thanks!

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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #48 on: August 29, 2017, 02:18:24 pm »
I installed one of these and used Scotts grip glue but the grip will slowly twist after long rides with the heated grips turned on, what is anybody using to glue your grip back on securely?
On the TT I think that it is easier to keep the rpms up when entering a curve so you do not have to go to closed throttle and then back open again, this motor does not mind rpms, let her sing!
 I do have the EVO flash.

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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2017, 04:58:01 pm »
So what should have been a 5-10 minute job turned into a 1.5 hour job. I have been in touch with the TT company and they are sending me a replacement. I was on the phone twice with tech.

There was some missing machining, tube length is longer than the stock tube so my throttle lock will not work.  >:(

Hopefully the replacement is correctly machined and fits like OEM. That is as much as I am going to say.  :beerchug:
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