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Throttle tamer questions
« on: June 23, 2017, 11:05:15 pm »
 I thought I would try one out and found some good prices on ebay but im confused about the part no.
 some of them has a K on the end  of the no.  or a d  or a y this is from different vendors
   example :40-4F-136-K
 but all of them say they fit concours 14 am i missing somthing here or are they all the same?
 I tried visiting the G2 pages but something is weird is going on with their site right now .
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2017, 11:30:17 pm »
If you want to test the idea..
  Look on Ebay and buy a used stock throttle.
  Use a hacksaw, and cut a groove in the first 20* or so. {position the groove, so that the throttle cable lies in it during the first part of the rotation}.
The groove effectively reduces the diameter during the first part of the rotation, and works like a throttle tamer.
 But. it costs almost nothing..

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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2017, 11:51:10 pm »
  Ted I did look for a tube on ebay and after figuring out i would have to spend 30 bucks or more when i can by the TT for 62.00 I ditched the idea. That said I saw your post about the mod and thats what got me wanting to try one.
 Steves flash did wonders for this issue but i was thinking pairing the tamer with the flash would be sweeet.
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2017, 12:15:38 am »
Not a problem; I like to tinker {and being frugal} this seemed to be a way to give it a try.

I agree that buying new is the best way to get it right.
   I'll even agree that this idea won't give full results of a real Throttle tamer..
        The real TT will definitely give you the full result.
             After you do the install, let us know if it helped??

But,,, I don't agree with your Ebay price..  :nananana:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/THROTTLE-TUBE-ZR1200-1000-750-EX650-250-ZX1400-1000-600-ZX6R-RR-ZG1400-KLE650-/332078480418?hash=item4d516b7c22:g:-bwAAOSw2xRYaVhq&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motion-Pro-Nylon-Throttle-Tube-Sleeve-Kawasaki-EX250R-Ninja-ZX-6R-Z1000-ZX-10R-/322563848582?fits=Make%3AKawasaki%7CModel%3AConcours+14&epid=528396768&hash=item4b1a4db986:g:vJEAAOSw~e5ZTAYZ&vxp=mtr

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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2017, 01:08:26 am »
 Im going to give it a try. Ill let yall know when I get it installed.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2017, 01:53:47 am by strum »
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2017, 03:04:17 pm »
I installed the T tamer this morn. Of course its raining cats and dogs here so ill have to wait on the road test.
 The install was fairly straight forward . The only thing I found is the open cable has to be adjusted all the way out. Its good but its cutting it close on usable threads.
 It does feel smoother than the factory tube. Stupid rain.
 
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2017, 03:06:32 pm »
Waiting to hear the results.

Rain... arghhhh!!   :-[

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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2017, 03:38:48 pm »
I didn't notice much of a difference when I installed mine
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2017, 03:47:44 pm »
Im really not expecting anything dramatic but I feel or at least hope this will compliment Steves flash.
 The Evo really made huge difference in the smooth factor and I probably should leave well enough alone (that was from my wife lol)
 Buy we are tinkerers here at the COG so I gotta tinker :great:
 
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2017, 09:44:28 am »

 But we are tinkerers here at the COG so I gotta tinker :great:

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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2017, 11:44:53 am »
. The only thing I found is the open cable has to be adjusted all the way out. Its good but its cutting it close on usable threads.



Are you certain you put it together correctly?  When I installed mine the adjusters were pretty close to original (some adjusting but not near the end of usable adjustment)

I ran with it for 4 years and loved it,  2 months ago I got the flash to accomodate a dual exhaust system, so I have expirence with the two and honestly, on MY bike, the differences between the tamer and the flash with regards to the abruptness of the throttle were minimal. The tamer made a huge difference in throttle "jerkiness" and I felt was a huge boon to the bike.  Now the flash DID smooth it out some more but i felt it was a small incremental gain.   (Now this comparison is only for abruptness of throttle application,  sheer stump pulling POWER was a different story alltogehter :) )
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2017, 02:23:49 pm »
  Are you certain you put it together correctly
 Yes on this . I mean what could be wrong?  cables go in their slots and housing has to line up with the pin at the bottom.
 
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2017, 02:37:30 pm »
 Ok I just returned from a short ride this morn.
 I wanted to tell yall this is the most amazing thing ever and you should all go out and buy one.
 At first I could tell little to no difference but the more I rode the more I started getting the subtle inputs it gives.
 Most notably in the curves where you have to come all the way off throttle and roll back on.  Again its subtle .
  The thing I like the most is how slick it feels. The delerin bushings make it feel silky.
 Was it worth the 70 bucks? I think so but dont have any huge expectations.
 Youll need to be a throttle geek to appreciate it .
 
 
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2017, 04:24:04 pm »
I like my tamer. It helps to ride reasonable smooth without Steve's flash but adding the flash if even better. I think the other benefit of the tamer is you don't get the sticky throttle tube periodically. The OE throttle tube would get dirty or something and throttle motion would get less smooth over time. The tamer is much better quality and seems to solve that permanently. The OE throttle tube is another example of Kawi "just good enough" engineering!

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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2017, 04:31:48 pm »
Thanks for the info Strum.

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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2017, 10:08:42 pm »
 After using the TT almost two weeks and logging a few hunert miles I have decided this is a great product and im very happy with it.
 This is one of those products that you dont really have to have but once you use it youll not want to go with out.
  The tamming effect while subtle is there and I notice it most on slow parking lot type maneuvers but what I love the most is how slick the throttle feels.
 Its like its running on beads. Absolutely the best feeling tube ive ever used.
 
 
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2017, 07:39:17 am »
Where did you get it and what is the part number?  Thanks
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2017, 09:08:22 am »


This is the one that I put on...Amazon link to throttle tamer.<------click :beerchug:
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2017, 10:13:08 am »
Thanks for the link
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2017, 11:57:53 am »
Should I try to work a little more "tamer" into the evo flash? I stopped where I did for fear of folks feeling I killed to much power and throttle response. Steve
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2017, 01:08:14 pm »
Steve I don't think so. For me the flash is perfect . The TT is just a neat addition. There again the feel of the tube is it's best attribute as far as really taming ? Its soo subtle it nearly not noticeable.
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2017, 11:07:37 pm »
Steve,
Don't change a thing. If someone wants slower throttle response they have the option of installing a TT. The rest of us just wana have fun!
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2017, 10:10:04 am »
Thanks guys, leaving it alone is a pretty easy choice! Steve
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2017, 10:13:59 am »
Thanks guys, leaving it alone is a pretty easy choice! Steve

I agree, hard to beat perfection   :great:
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Re: Throttle tamer questions
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2017, 03:23:51 pm »
I agree. It's perfect as it is. Don't change anything!

I'm one that built one to try.
  Not that I needed it.
  I just wanted to see if I could build one, and if it would make any difference...
      I was able to build a tamer. (But, it didn't seem to make much difference)

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