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Tightening Fairing Screws
« on: April 18, 2013, 09:44:04 pm »
I had the fairings off for maintenance.  I was surprised to see that a few screws were very loose after a few months of riding.  My inch pound tongue wrench only goes as low as 25 inch lbs, so I tightened them by feel.  Fred tightens his on his videos with "give it a twist"  Obviously too tight is bad, but so is too loose. Does anybody have a tip for what can be considered "good and tight" or some way to be consistent?  Is thread locker an option?
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Re: Tightening Fairing Screws
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2013, 12:24:16 am »
I use the two finger and a little push method, mostly a "feel" thing.  Thread locker, I think, would be a bad idea the nut may spin in place when you try to remove it later.
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Re: Tightening Fairing Screws
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2013, 12:30:51 am »
Before you do the work purchase a few extras (screws),  they are very soft. The plastic pins as well.
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Re: Tightening Fairing Screws
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2013, 01:33:54 am »
Soft isn't the word!  I had my fairings off last week to find a coolant leak and the lowest screw on the right side near the oil sight glass rounded right out.  I had to drill it and buy another online.   :-[




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Re: Tightening Fairing Screws
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2013, 11:08:02 am »
Anybody want to venture a guess as to how many inch pounds the fairing screw torque spec would be?  It’s not listed in the manual, and I know it is definitely less than 25 Inch pounds.  Trying to be consistent with the screws (and avoid cracking the fairing or rounding a screw), I’m thinking of devising a homemade torque wrench. Perhaps a spring-scale on the end of an Allen wrench.   If I had to guess, 12 inch pounds? 
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Re: Tightening Fairing Screws
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2013, 11:55:18 am »
Who the hell tightens those little things with a torque wrench?!  Just snug them up and go bout your day.  They have a good inch of thread to back out before they fall out.

Oh...if you are rounding the larger ones out odds are your hex wrench isn't seated all the way down in the bolt head. 

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Re: Tightening Fairing Screws
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2013, 12:05:12 pm »
The first time I took my 09 in for service they had to easy a screw out and I knew it was tight from the get go. It even came back with an extra Phillips head screw.

After the first time I took my fairing off a order for screws and nylon washers was sent off. I have plenty of those on hand now but this time its the well nuts I'm waiting on.

I check screws and the bolts I can get to tightness bi monthly during the riding season.
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Re: Tightening Fairing Screws
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2013, 01:03:09 pm »
Who the hell tightens those little things with a torque wrench?!  Just snug them up and go bout your day.  They have a good inch of thread to back out before they fall out.

Not me (yet) but I’m thinking of trying it.  Snugging them up failed me, and I had two that were just about ready to fall out, and most others were loose.
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Re: Tightening Fairing Screws
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2013, 07:31:40 pm »
tighten till you hear a "squeak" then back out a 1/4 turn


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Re: Tightening Fairing Screws
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2013, 07:36:12 pm »
Many of those screws go into a rubber backed nut plate. You can feel the rubber expand as you tighten them if you pay attention. They weren't meant to have much torque applied.
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Re: Tightening Fairing Screws
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2013, 04:07:58 am »
Many of those screws go into a rubber backed nut plate. You can feel the rubber expand as you tighten them if you pay attention. They weren't meant to have much torque applied.

I agree. Snug might be a better description, not gorilla tight.
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